Is Genesis the story of the earth's creation?

[Gauntlet]

I think the earth is probably millions of years old, if anthropology and fossil records are any indication. I'm not one of these diehard literalists who wil *INSIST* that the earth's age is exactly 6,000 years. I don't care how old exactly. Doesn't make one lick of difference to me. But if the Jewish religion itself is already 5,000 years old ...

But that's not so say I refuse to take scripture at face value.

[exrockstar]

they just found a 47 million year old fossil named Ida.

do people still believe that Noah was mounted on a brontosaurus when he entered the ark?

let the explanations/excuses begin....

"you see what happened was....."

"what ther devil does is...."

"carbon has errors; im not an expert but what i thinks is...."

Yeah and the fossil is already being rejected as well.

Besides, what if there were dinosaurs on the ark? I don't know if there were and it really makes no difference one or the other to my way of thinking, but what if there were? Would that shake your faith?

"shake my faith?" Jesus Christ has nothing to do with this? so what youre saying is that I have to believe that dinosaurs resided on the ark or else im questioning the bible?

well...i asked you how you feel about dinosaurs yet you have no opinion. you should have an opinion.

you should say "YES" (with confidence) "dinosaurs walked with Adam and Eve."

A Hebrew expert reader and writer should have formed an opinion by now. You don't have to be a dino-expert but as a biblical scholar you can define a stance through research and study.

I'm just saying.....

[Openly Curious]

they just found a 47 million year old fossil named Ida.

do people still believe that Noah was mounted on a brontosaurus when he entered the ark?

let the explanations/excuses begin....

"you see what happened was....."

"what ther devil does is...."

"carbon has errors; im not an expert but what i thinks is...."

Yeah and the fossil is already being rejected as well.

Besides, what if there were dinosaurs on the ark? I don't know if there were and it really makes no difference one or the other to my way of thinking, but what if there were? Would that shake your faith?

"shake my faith?" Jesus Christ has nothing to do with this? so what youre saying is that I have to believe that dinosaurs resided on the ark or else im questioning the bible?

well...i asked you how you feel about dinosaurs yet you have no opinion. you should have an opinion.

you should say "YES" (with confidence) "dinosaurs walked with Adam and Eve."

A Hebrew expert reader and writer should have formed an opinion by now. You don't have to be a dino-expert but as a biblical scholar you can define a stance through research and study.

I'm just saying.....

.........exrockstar

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[SamP]

The Bible from Gen. to Rev. proves how smart God really is. Yes, it is very possible there was another creation before Gen. 1 because I have also studied this to find out the truth, so I could preach the truth to anyone listening to my sermons. (I've had a number of people ask me about this)

Lucifer, and what the Bible records about him, somewhat prove this.

However, we could go back and forth for hours and still not be able to prove either way.

I have come to the conclusion in my old age that the most important thing in the world is knowing Jesus Christ and Him crucified. So that we can get as many people saved as possible before it's too late. We need to study the Bible to show ourselves approved before God, so we can win as many as possible to the Lord Jesus Christ.

Only by studying the Word, can we show ourself approved, rightly dividing the Word of Truth.

(2Tim.2:15) "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, RIGHTLY DIVIDING the word of truth."

Our main purpose in studying and learning the Bible is to get people saved from going to hell.

[MorningGlory]

This is the most important thing. It is not so we can get people saved, or so that we have some sort of exaltation. It is just to plain and simple know Him. He wants us to spend time with Him, and get to know Him. Frankly, this is an area that I have been severely lacking in lately. Pray for me saints.

I often feel that way too, ruck. Praying for you, brother.

[south]

1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 The earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters. 3 Then God said,

[SamP]

My friend, the main thrust of the Gospel is getting people saved so they won't go to hell.

(1Tim.1:15) "This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to SAVE SINNERS; of whom I am chief."

Paul is saying he was chief of sinners who Jesus saved. The whole world had Jesus die for them. Only a few will accept though.

Yes, we are to grow close to the Lord ourself, this is important.

Also, Jesus lived, breathed, died, and was resurrected that the whole world could have His Salvation.

[MorningGlory]

Genesis is a wonderful book. Imagine God walking the earth with you talking Torah everyday and just relating to Him. Adam had it all.

Yes, indeed, he did. Welcome to Worthy, btw.

[Guest shiloh357]

"shake my faith?" Jesus Christ has nothing to do with this? so what youre saying is that I have to believe that dinosaurs resided on the ark or else im questioning the bible?

No, I am asking you IF it turned out that our dating methods have been flawed and we have misinterpreting the evidence, what would that do to your faith? I asked a question, I did not make an accusatory.

well...i asked you how you feel about dinosaurs yet you have no opinion. you should have an opinion.

you should say "YES" (with confidence) "dinosaurs walked with Adam and Eve."

I just don't think it matters. I am open to it being either way.

A Hebrew expert reader and writer should have formed an opinion by now. You don't have to be a dino-expert but as a biblical scholar you can define a stance through research and study.

I'm just saying.....

I don't think the Bible gives us enough light to be dogmattic either way. You are trumpeting this 47 Million year old find as if it means something and it really doesn't. All it means is that lemurs existed a long time ago. It's not like this is a dinosaur skeleton that was found.

It might very well be a lemur that died in Noah's flood and not 47 Million years old at all.

[Massorite]

My friend, the main thrust of the Gospel is getting people saved so they won't go to hell.

(1Tim.1:15) "This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to SAVE SINNERS; of whom I am chief."

Paul is saying he was chief of sinners who Jesus saved. The whole world had Jesus die for them. Only a few will accept though.

Yes, we are to grow close to the Lord ourself, this is important.

Also, Jesus lived, breathed, died, and was resurrected that the whole world could have His Salvation.

Yes, but why was it necessary to save man. You think it is from hell. That is part of the package when you are in line with His enemy. No, God purpose in saving man was for the fellowship to be restored. God's purpose is saving man was so that He could have a dwelling place. This is why God saved man. God didn't save us for our sake, but for His. Once again the problem with today's gospel is...that is it humanistic.

God want to save you so that you....NO. We are saved according to His purpose...and God's purpose was never for man to go to hell. We may want to see what He purposed for man to be.

I'm done, dont want to hijack the thread any further.

How about if you both are correct. It is necessary to save man from HIS SELF because man gave him self a sinful nature by disobeying God. Which in turn separated or put a wall in the middle of the relationship man had with God. In which case the other purpose of God is to reconcile man back to God by doing away with the seperating wall.