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I believe it means that Jesus had finished paying the penalty for our sin, and it was now possible for us to be saved. We must only let/make him be our Lord so we can truthfully confess with out mouths that he is our Lord, and obviously believe that the Father raised him from the Dead.

If we make him our Lord we will live the lives that he teaches us to live and do the things he has commanded. [repentance, baptism, Love God and Love our neighbors] If we do not follow his commandments there are great questions of our eternal future.


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What did Jesus mean when He said "It Is Finished"?

How you interpret this determines a lot about your faith

Explain that.

I would encourage you to follow the thread and you will see evidence hopefully that what a person believes or understands abut that declaration from the cross become their practical theology. Many believe that we have to continually return to the cross to ask for forgiveness and many believe he died once for all sin, past, present. This often determines their belief about the security of a believer, how they view the Lord's Supper, and their work ethic in the Kingdom. As people express themselves if they are transparent they will tell you what they understand or feel about that one phrase..."It is Finished"

From my answer to your post, what have you learned about my faith?

Based on your prior post and your response I would suggest it means you are uncommitted and you probably don't think it is that significant what it meant...I don't say that in judgment but honoring your question with my best answer on the three possible options you offer and your lack of identifying your belief.


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So many read the Biblical narrative too casually and without thorough examination. When Jesus declared from the cross, "It is finished"...what do you think he was declaring and what does that mean practically in my faith and practice? Is there a clue in the original language? Is the sacramental understanding of many in conflict with His declaration. Was He announcing that His earthly ministry was accomplished or was He announcing the debt paid and no further sacrifice or merit needed? Did He make a downpayment or pay the bill?

In some translations the word is accomplished, I like the word better than finished. Finished makes it seem too complete done and over for good just like the word fulfill its not a 'finished' thing until everything this is done thats just how I see it though and Messiah is not yet 'finished' with us until the millennial reign is over. He accomplished all He set out to do, nailing the ordinances against us the penalty of death for sin, He made satan and croonies stand up and know their time is indeed short, He fulfilled those prophecies of His coming, the list just goes on. He paid the bill and all who are His no longer have to pay any debt at all for our sins unless we continue willfully exploiting His grace.

shalom,

Mizz

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So many read the Biblical narrative too casually and without thorough examination. When Jesus declared from the cross, "It is finished"...what do you think he was declaring and what does that mean practically in my faith and practice? Is there a clue in the original language? Is the sacramental understanding of many in conflict with His declaration. Was He announcing that His earthly ministry was accomplished or was He announcing the debt paid and no further sacrifice or merit needed? Did He make a downpayment or pay the bill?

What did Jesus mean when He said "It Is Finished"?

How you interpret this determines a lot about your faith

Explain that.

I would encourage you to follow the thread and you will see evidence hopefully that what a person believes or understands abut that declaration from the cross become their practical theology. Many believe that we have to continually return to the cross to ask for forgiveness and many believe he died once for all sin, past, present. This often determines their belief about the security of a believer, how they view the Lord's Supper, and their work ethic in the Kingdom. As people express themselves if they are transparent they will tell you what they understand or feel about that one phrase..."It is Finished"

From my answer to your post, what have you learned about my faith?

Based on your prior post and your response I would suggest it means you are uncommitted and you probably don't think it is that significant what it meant...I don't say that in judgment but honoring your question with my best answer on the three possible options you offer and your lack of identifying your belief.

You didn't ask anyone to identify their belief.

You asked, "What does this mean?"


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Before the foundation of the earth the Godhead knew that they had to defeat Satan's plan and to rule the earth and heaven. Christ defeated Satan's plan. Jesus also was the sacrifice that paid for our sin. He, being God, was the only One good enough to pay for the sin of all mankind. No one was good enough to be the sacrifice but God, Himself. Satan thought that he had succeeded when Christ died on the cross but He rose victorious spoiling Satan's plan for ever..

Jesus therefore could say that the work the Father gave Him, He finished, victorious over Satan, death and the sin of those who will accept His sacrifice.


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So many read the Biblical narrative too casually and without thorough examination. When Jesus declared from the cross, "It is finished"...what do you think he was declaring and what does that mean practically in my faith and practice? Is there a clue in the original language? Is the sacramental understanding of many in conflict with His declaration. Was He announcing that His earthly ministry was accomplished or was He announcing the debt paid and no further sacrifice or merit needed? Did He make a downpayment or pay the bill?

What did Jesus mean when He said "It Is Finished"?

How you interpret this determines a lot about your faith

Explain that.

I would encourage you to follow the thread and you will see evidence hopefully that what a person believes or understands abut that declaration from the cross become their practical theology. Many believe that we have to continually return to the cross to ask for forgiveness and many believe he died once for all sin, past, present. This often determines their belief about the security of a believer, how they view the Lord's Supper, and their work ethic in the Kingdom. As people express themselves if they are transparent they will tell you what they understand or feel about that one phrase..."It is Finished"

From my answer to your post, what have you learned about my faith?

Based on your prior post and your response I would suggest it means you are uncommitted and you probably don't think it is that significant what it meant...I don't say that in judgment but honoring your question with my best answer on the three possible options you offer and your lack of identifying your belief.

You didn't ask anyone to identify their belief.

You asked, "What does this mean?"

"What does this mean?" Is the question that ask you to identify your belief? I don't mean to be abrupt but don't be so cagey. Nobody is on a witness stand

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"What does this mean?" Is the question that ask you to identify your belief? I don't mean to be abrupt but don't be so cagey. Nobody is on a witness stand

You asked what did Jesus mean when He said, not what does this mean to you.

What did Jesus mean when He said "It Is Finished"?

Your comment that I'm "uncommitted" makes it sound as if I'm here just playing church. I answered your question and you come back and say I basically don't care what Jesus accomplished on the Cross, it means nothing to me.

Based on your prior post and your response I would suggest it means you are uncommitted and you probably don't think it is that significant what it meant

When I respond to a post, I respond to what is posted. I don't try to read between the lines.


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"What does this mean?" Is the question that ask you to identify your belief? I don't mean to be abrupt but don't be so cagey. Nobody is on a witness stand

You asked what did Jesus mean when He said, not what does this mean to you.

What did Jesus mean when He said "It Is Finished"?

Your comment that I'm "uncommitted" makes it sound as if I'm here just playing church. I answered your question and you come back and say I basically don't care what Jesus accomplished on the Cross, it means nothing to me.

Based on your prior post and your response I would suggest it means you are uncommitted and you probably don't think it is that significant what it meant

When I respond to a post, I respond to what is posted. I don't try to read between the lines.

Please forgive me, I have offended you. That is not the intent of my thread.

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Please forgive me, I have offended you. That is not the intent of my thread.

Water off a ducks back.

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Isaiah 59:2 (NASB95)

2 But your iniquities have made a separation between you and your God, And your sins have hidden His face from you so that He does not hear.

Matthew 27:51 (NASB95)

51 And behold, the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom; and the earth shook and the rocks were split.

Hebrews 10:19-20 (NASB95)

19 Therefore, brethren, since we have confidence to enter the holy place by the blood of Jesus,

20 by a new and living way which He inaugurated for us through the veil, that is, His flesh,

Until his death upon which the Testator initiated the New Testament:

Hebrews 9:15-17 (NASB95)

15 For this reason He is the mediator of a new covenant, so that, since a death has taken place for the redemption of the transgressions that were committed under the first covenant, those who have been called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.

16 For where a covenant is, there must of necessity be the death of the one who made it.

17 For a covenant is valid only when men are dead, for it is never in force while the one who made it lives.

Until then the faithful dead went in spirit to the side of sheol that was of the promise, comfort, called Abraham's Bosom in Luke 16:19-31, but in the three hours between the Lord's death and sunset:

1 Peter 3:18-19 (NASB95)

18 For Christ also died for sins once for all, the just for the unjust, so that He might bring us to God, having been put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit;

19 in which also He went and made proclamation to the spirits now in prison,

Ephesians 4:8-10 (NASB95)

8 Therefore it says,

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