hell is for the sin, not the sinner

[Gods_girl111]

i am not perfect, by far, and i dont know all the answers, but God is leading me to be where im supposed to be.

Perhaps He has led you here so you can learn what is true.

maybe.. or maybe He led me here to spread a little light on what this world as led people to believe. only He knows.

I don't believe what I do because the world led me to believe it. I have read the Bible through more than a dozen times and the New Testament more than 20 times. I have been studying the Bible since I got saved 29 years ago.

youre where you need to be in your life.

[Guest]

The Master's Voice

Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. Matthew 7:13-14

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He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life:

and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. John 3:36

Love, Joe

any scripture taken out of its chapter, or book is taken out of context. but..

"i started this knowing that i wasnt going to get a welcoming response.

Oh Beloved

And the devil said unto him, If thou be the Son of God, command this stone that it be made bread.

And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God. Luke 4:4

You Are Loved

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. John 3:16-17

Eat

He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. John 3:18

Eat

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. John 3:19-20

Eat

But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. John 3:21

And Be Blessed Beloved

Thy words were found, and I did eat them; and thy word was unto me the joy and rejoicing of mine heart: for I am called by thy name, O LORD God of hosts. Jeremiah 15:16

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It is only our own spirit within us that knows all about us; in the same way, only God's Spirit knows all about God. We have not received this world's spirit; instead, we have received the Spirit sent by God, so that we may know all that God has given us.

1 Corinthians 2:11-12 (the spirit sent by God, not the Bible)

For if he who comes preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or if you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted, you may well put up with it! 2 Corinthians 11:4

Oh Beloved

Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ. 1 Corinthians 2:13-16

If You Would But Believe

The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: Revelation 1:1

Christ

And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. Revelation 20:15

You Would Know Truth

When Jesus heard it, he marvelled, and said to them that followed, Verily I say unto you, I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel.

And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven.

But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Matthew 8:10-12

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Believe

The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.

He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. John 3:35-36

And Be Blessed Beloved

Love, Joe

Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever. Psalms 119:160

You shall not add to the word which I command you, nor take from it, that you may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you. Deuteronomy 4:2

[Openly Curious]

name='Gods_girl111' timestamp='1308126553' post='1686127'

in my understanding, no spirit goes to hell, only the sin or evilness that lives in us.

I have now read through this whole thread and I perceive that your speech does betray you. The doctrine in which you bring and are teaching claiming it is from God is in fact "another gospel." You are trying to persuade others that there is no punishment for their unrepentant sins no eternal damnation for the wicked but the Word declares "it is appointed unto man once to die after that the resurrection." Both the wicked and the righteous will be resurrected from the dead "some" to everlasting life and "some" to everlasting damnation. This being the truth of God then it is utterly ludicrous ideaology to teach otherwise "for the wages of sin is death."

In the Word we are taught that everyone will stand before the Lord and be judged for the things we have done in our bodies whether it be good or bad.

The word of God is very clear about the horrors of hell and those who have been cast into hell where their worm dieth not, where there is everlasting darkness and torment. The word declares that "hell doth enlarge itself" and this is meaning that hell continuosly grows as more and more of the wicked find their unrighteous souls there.

Just as the righteous souls will be in heaven there also are the unrighteous souls and the unrighteous souls will be in hell. The teaching that you bring within this thread is totally contrary to holy scripture and if believed just as the serpent deceived Eve by corrupting her mind using the truth mixing it with lies bewitching her mind to believe a lie.

For the Lord warned us to beware of false prophets and false teachers and when one comes teaching another gospel than what is taught in the word we must warn and raise a red flag for others to see. There are clouds that have no water, there are those who desire to be teachers of the law but they do it not even understanding the things they say as they never take the time to learn the word.

There will be "sinners" in hell although hell was created for the devil and his angels. If sinners never come to a place of repentance and believe Jesus died for their sins and his blood cleanses their hearts making them a new creature in Christ Jesus. Every person born into this world must go by way of the cross according to Romans 10:9,10 and if a person sins are not covered by the blood then the all seeing eyes of the Lord know those that belong to him.

[other one]

haha i was just thinking something about God speaking to moses through the burning bush and realized i said it was abraham that He spoke to! yall didnt catch that!

At least one of us did, but decided it was just a simple mistake and knew what you were saying but didn't want to change the flow of the thread. The last thing in the world you needed was to be dumped on over a simple name.

[OneLight]

i understand Jesus is the only way home, but if it werent for this world then Jesus wouldnt have been needed. and if there is only one path, then why are we all doing something different?

This world is fallen because of the sin of man. Because Adam and Eve disobeyed God.

People do different things because people naturally sin, naturally rebel against God. It is important for all of us to find the right path - Jesus.

but if there is only one path, then how can any of us say we're saved? we're all going in different directions, even us who believe in Jesus. the one path, is the path that God lays out for YOU.

The gate is narrow, as we can see here ...

Matthew 7:13

Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it.

Matthew 7:14

Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.

Luke 13:24

Strive to enter through the narrow gate, for many, I say to you, will seek to enter and will not be able.

Jesus IS the only way, there is no other ...

John 14:6

Jesus said to him,

[Gods_girl111]

if Hes teaching us ALL the same truth then why are there different religions? why are there unbelievers? like ive said before, Hes waiting for an appointed time to reveal all.

[ayin jade]

He has revealed Himself, but not everyone listens. There are different religions because people seek false gods. Because people rebel against Him.

[winsomebulldog]

He has revealed Himself, but not everyone listens. There are different religions because people seek false gods. Because people rebel against Him.

[Smalcald]

Scripture points out that not all of our questions can be answered in this life. So when we try to understand why some people do not believe and others do we will not get a satisfactory human answer.

We get some hints I think about those who love this life more than Christ or the parable of the seeds or those who saw the light but loved darkness more, but in the end we hear Paul saying does the clay ask the potter why have you made me this way? No it just is that way.

But as far as hell goes keep in mind those in hell won't want to go to heaven they would hate heaven as much as they hate hell. As CS Lewis pointed out hell is locked, but it is locked from the inside. God is long suffering toward all of us hoping that none are lost but to He lets us have our choices He has given us free will as an act of love. We are not robots designed by God to simply do what He says, robots can't truly love anyone, God wants us to love Him on our own and the only way to get that is through giving us a choice NOT to love God.

[OneLight]

if Hes teaching us ALL the same truth then why are there different religions? why are there unbelievers? like ive said before, Hes waiting for an appointed time to reveal all.

There are different religions because people worship different gods, false gods. There are unbelievers because people don't want to believe in God.

I can probably speak for the vast majority here when I say that we don't have a religion, we have a relationship with God. Religion is man trying to make his way to God, earning his way step by step, work by work. A relationship is one of love. God loves us and all He is waiting for is for us to love Him back. That is a relationship, based in love, not deeds.

His appointed time is now, if one is willing to accept Him. If not, then they will see Christ returning as He left, in the clouds. There is no other revelation needed.