smoking

[other one]

Someone once asked a preacher if they would go to hell if they didn't stop smoking, and his reply was that they won't go to hell but they'll probably go to heaven earlier than expected.

One of the few things I agreed totally with that I heard from Kenneth Copeland was one day when someone asked him if smokers could get into heaven...... He thought for a few seconds and then sais, " Yes they could, but I sure hope they don't stand by me..."

[udx]

believe what you wish, i don't expect everyone to agree with me. but in my opinion, it was an apt comparison. and for those who feel it is a sin, it WOULD be for them to partake. what God does not define in scripture as sin is a matter between God and the individual.

in any case, i'm glad that i now longer smoke (even though my immune system plummeted AFTER i quit smoking). it was a costly habit, and it did control my life. God has delivered me from it, and i'm grateful He did.

The definition of sin is much broader than what is listed in the Bible, but those listed in it are definitely a sin. It is impossible for the Bible to list all possible things that could be a sin. But a sin in the general term is missing the mark, or standard of conduct or behavior God desires for us. Anything that does not please God is a sin, even stray thoughts.

I would bet that God would definitely not be pleased with a person willfully damaging their own body by smoking. Even though smoking or not would not affect salvation, it is a sin nevertheless. Do you think God would be pleased with a person cutting themselves with a knife as a form of pain relief? Smoking is basically doing that to your body, hurting it all the same.

Smoking not only hurt yourself, but it damage your reproductive cells, which would damage your future children. A lot of birth defects are attributed to smoking, it is like direct curse from this act.

[Hall7]

I would think that smoking is some form of slow suicide no? I believe that if someone smokes to the point of becoming sick and keeps smoking knowing that they will die if they keep smoking is pretty much like suicide. And I don't think that ppl who commit suicide go to heaven, maybe not hell either (if there is a place in between these two?).

[jmlusa2000]

I do not smoke. As a registered nurse, I have taken care of patients who have smoked for several years. Many of them are dependent on oxygen, and some have peripheral vascular disease pretty bad. I am not criticizing anyone that does smoke, but the health effects of smoking can be detrimental.

[xero]

I would think that smoking is some form of slow suicide no? I believe that if someone smokes to the point of becoming sick and keeps smoking knowing that they will die if they keep smoking is pretty much like suicide. And I don't think that ppl who commit suicide go to heaven, maybe not hell either (if there is a place in between these two?).

Theres no in between place, limbo is a false doctrine, hell gets thrown in the lake of fire and God makes a new heaven and a new earth and we all live in New Jerusalem not heaven. Read the last couple of pages of Revelations for all the details.

The current heaven and earth are going to be destroyed with a loud noise and fervent heat. Sounds scary but its necessary.

[Hall7]

I would think that smoking is some form of slow suicide no? I believe that if someone smokes to the point of becoming sick and keeps smoking knowing that they will die if they keep smoking is pretty much like suicide. And I don't think that ppl who commit suicide go to heaven, maybe not hell either (if there is a place in between these two?).

Theres no in between place, limbo is a false doctrine, hell gets thrown in the lake of fire and God makes a new heaven and a new earth and we all live in New Jerusalem not heaven. Read the last couple of pages of Revelations for all the details.

The current heaven and earth are going to be destroyed with a loud noise and fervent heat. Sounds scary but its necessary.

So you think that per say.... a tribe of people living in natural harmony in a remote jungle and never had a chance to even know that the Bible exist will get thrown into a lake of fire? I don't think so...

[Fez]

believe what you wish, i don't expect everyone to agree with me. but in my opinion, it was an apt comparison. and for those who feel it is a sin, it WOULD be for them to partake. what God does not define in scripture as sin is a matter between God and the individual.

in any case, i'm glad that i now longer smoke (even though my immune system plummeted AFTER i quit smoking). it was a costly habit, and it did control my life. God has delivered me from it, and i'm grateful He did.

The definition of sin is much broader than what is listed in the Bible, but those listed in it are definitely a sin. It is impossible for the Bible to list all possible things that could be a sin. But a sin in the general term is missing the mark, or standard of conduct or behavior God desires for us. Anything that does not please God is a sin, even stray thoughts.

I would bet that God would definitely not be pleased with a person willfully damaging their own body by smoking. Even though smoking or not would not affect salvation, it is a sin nevertheless. Do you think God would be pleased with a person cutting themselves with a knife as a form of pain relief? Smoking is basically doing that to your body, hurting it all the same.

Smoking not only hurt yourself, but it damage your reproductive cells, which would damage your future children. A lot of birth defects are attributed to smoking, it is like direct curse from this act.

Half of the planet in 1st world countries is grossly overweight. Is eating too much a sin as well? The Bible speaks of gluttony.

Smoking will not send you to hell, you just smell like you have been there.....

[udx]

believe what you wish, i don't expect everyone to agree with me. but in my opinion, it was an apt comparison. and for those who feel it is a sin, it WOULD be for them to partake. what God does not define in scripture as sin is a matter between God and the individual.

in any case, i'm glad that i now longer smoke (even though my immune system plummeted AFTER i quit smoking). it was a costly habit, and it did control my life. God has delivered me from it, and i'm grateful He did.

The definition of sin is much broader than what is listed in the Bible, but those listed in it are definitely a sin. It is impossible for the Bible to list all possible things that could be a sin. But a sin in the general term is missing the mark, or standard of conduct or behavior God desires for us. Anything that does not please God is a sin, even stray thoughts.

I would bet that God would definitely not be pleased with a person willfully damaging their own body by smoking. Even though smoking or not would not affect salvation, it is a sin nevertheless. Do you think God would be pleased with a person cutting themselves with a knife as a form of pain relief? Smoking is basically doing that to your body, hurting it all the same.

Smoking not only hurt yourself, but it damage your reproductive cells, which would damage your future children. A lot of birth defects are attributed to smoking, it is like direct curse from this act.

Half of the planet in 1st world countries is grossly overweight. Is eating too much a sin as well? The Bible speaks of gluttony.

Smoking will not send you to hell, you just smell like you have been there.....

Being overweight is not entirely one's fault. Sometimes it is due to genetics and the kinds of food available to you, what stage of life you are in, nobody really chooses to be fat, but you could choose to smoke or not smoke. Yes, if you lack self control in terms of eating that would be a sin as well.

[xero]

I would think that smoking is some form of slow suicide no? I believe that if someone smokes to the point of becoming sick and keeps smoking knowing that they will die if they keep smoking is pretty much like suicide. And I don't think that ppl who commit suicide go to heaven, maybe not hell either (if there is a place in between these two?).

Theres no in between place, limbo is a false doctrine, hell gets thrown in the lake of fire and God makes a new heaven and a new earth and we all live in New Jerusalem not heaven. Read the last couple of pages of Revelations for all the details.

The current heaven and earth are going to be destroyed with a loud noise and fervent heat. Sounds scary but its necessary.

So you think that per say.... a tribe of people living in natural harmony in a remote jungle and never had a chance to even know that the Bible exist will get thrown into a lake of fire? I don't think so...

Its not a question of what I think and salvation isnt a question of hearing the name Jesus Christ or reading the Bible or attending a Bible college or going to "church" its a very basic principle. Do unto others as you would have done unto you for that is the law and the prophets. There are plenty of people who know nothing about the Bible that understand common decency and love of their neighbors. They love God without putting into terms of christianity. There are also many people who hate God even though they claim His name. God will not be mocked and He searches the hearts of all men. YHWH knows who loves Him; He said one resurrection on His day of judgement, hell goes in the lake of fire with all the sillybillygoats, the Lamb and His Bride (ewe/you&me) live eternally in New Jerusalem. Good News! God made us in His image and sin was introduced through Adam so we are born with the knowledge of good and evil. Its not an issue of social or cultural circumstance, I.Q., life situation. Its a question of hope and fear. Those who have hope for a bright future will not be let down and likewise those who fear the dark will be consumed by it.

[exrockstar]

I wonder how many Christians still smoke?? I do and I know I shouldn't and I have tried to stop. My main problem is that I enjoy a cigarette with a cup of coffee, after a meal, when i sit down to rest, and in between. For me a cigarette is a stimulant when I am tired or can't think straight; and a seditave when I am upset. I feel like I have leprosy when I light up anywhere but my house.. i respect others who don't smoke and if they visit me... I will smoke outside. Do you smoke????

i'll smoke me a good cigar every now and then.