So who is really destroying our world?

[The_Patriot21]

Global warming-such a lie. Im sorry, but it is. . .

[Sevenseas]

Really, I'm not sure what the point of this op is and some of the responses are off the wall IMO. I do agree that global warming

is hokum though.

There are glaciers growing in some places while others are receding. In Greenland, about 150 yrs ago, animals were feeding

on pasture that is now glacier.

sorry too much Marxist guilt for me. I have heard so many terminal warnings for 40 years that were supposed to come true in 10 that I don't pay attention any more.

as an aside, I think Fez's statement has nothing to do with Marxism or any other ism. God is not responsible for people putting words in His mouth

and people do that all the time.

The entire globe is off kilter because of sin. Political agenda is the 3D chess game the devil has so many playing.

And Gary? does yr post have anything to do with what you believe may be the end of the world that you spoke about in another thread?

the one you thought it best to keep secret because of the misunderstandings that would occur if you spelled it out?

Just wondering...........

[Sevenseas]

After 6 days of creating, God had a world that was beautiful and easy to live in for man who needed only to tend Gods garden. Upon disobedience unto God, God cursed the earth for man's sake.

I am positive that God knew things would not go that simply since satan was already parading around down here. Pretty sure God knew about that.

[MorningGlory]

Who is destroying our world? The same one who has been attempting to do that since the fall.....satan, of course. But he won't succeed.

[MorningGlory]

To Fez,

sorry too much Marxist guilt for me. I have heard so many terminal warnings for 40 years that were supposed to come true in 10 that I don't pay attention any more. I'm sure there are local cases like a slide from too much tree cutting or something like that. There are also 'solutions' that are silly. The LA shopping bag solution is protested by nurses who explain how much bacterial traffic is now going to come into stores on returning handbags, that were sitting where right before they were put on the shopping cart? Or the dam removal in our area. To get salmon to return? Then why aren't the salmon going to the streams right beside it? Because there is too much commercial fishing, which no one addresses. there's not enough salmon returning to start with!

But beyond all this, I'd have to know what destroyed means. A comet once struck and destroyed major life forms. Solar fires might strike and scorch the earth. But the comparison between those and various human impacts? Too small. A weakening of a system here and there, but not destruction.

That's not the kind of evil the NT had in mind when John wrote Rev. about those who destroy the earth.

--Inter

It's not Marxist to know what's going on in the world, inter.

[gdemoss]

sevenseas: I have never spoke about the end of the world. I have spoken about the end of the age as far as the fullness of the gentiles being come in. I began to speak about it once and was shut down immediately so I have let it go. People can figure it out for themselves when things fall apart for the gentile church. I have no idea what your last comment is about as God knew everything that would happen including his cursing the earth and destroying it twice, once yet to come.

Gary

[nebula]

It's not earth-worship and environmental wackism nor any other derogatory term to care about the health of God's creation.

Would you drink of a river unfiltered and untreated? Why not? Pollutants and toxins. Who put the pollutants in there? Mankind. Us.

Who is responsible for the low number of oysters in the Chesapeake Bay? We are, by over-harvesting and by the pollutants and toxins in the Bay. No big deal you say? Tell that to the Chesapeake Bay watermen who have lost their jobs and livelihood because they can't harvest enough oysters to meet their needs anymore.

Who is responsible for the collecting in the Pacific? Mankind. Plastics don't degrade. And plastic garbage does cause animals to suffer and often die painful deaths. It isn't wacko/marxism/whatever to have a problem with causing animals to suffer needlessly.

[The_Patriot21]

oh, I agree we need to take care of our planet and be wise stewards, and that we arnt doing a very good job. I just think global warming is a bunch of bunk is all.

[xero]

Adam.

[LOVE SONGS]

To Fez,

there is a lot of unsupported guilt in that, Fez. There are a few systems that are weakened locally, but "destroying the earth" is way over the top, and as I said above I doubt that is what John in Rev. meant. Don't use liberal/environmental guilt as a tool for the Gospel, because it validates something that has its roots in a very different source. This kind of misunderstanding comes from too much reading the Bible apart from its historic sense, deeply interlocked with the situations of the 1st century.

God's destruction of the earth in 2 Pet. 3 is a very different question from the kind of environmental guilt that has people becoming plantarians (those who feel bad for using knives to harvest plants, so they only eat things that fall!).

--Inter

What kind of things are you saying ? This does not make any sense to me.