is christmas based on pagan underpinnings?

[Guest]

what do you guys thinK?

[OneLight]

No, but the pagans would like everyone to believe that.

[Willa]

Christmas is based on the birth of Christ. We don't know for sure when it occurred. Some think it may have been closer to Passover since the temple sheep were being held close by. But I am thankful to have a day to celebrate Christ's first coming.

Many have tried to make it a pagan day, from those who say it was on the winter soltice, which is several days before, to those who commercialize it or cloud it with fairy tails. Some say that Martin Luther began the Christmas Tree tradition. Other traditions like mistletoe and yule logs are definitely pagan in origin. .

But if we dedicate a thing to God, doesn't it belong to Him? Christmas is dedicated to the birth of Christ and has been for many centuries. Giving of gifts is certainly of God, Who gave us His only Son. Even the maji presented gifts to the baby Jesus at His home, though probably not at the manger. The giving of gifts is a Godly tradition and should be stripped of the greed promoted by commerce.

But, no. Christmas is based on the gift of God.

[Guest]

is christmas based on pagan underpinnings?

 

what do you guys think?

 

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Pagan

 

And they said, There is no hope: but we will walk after our own devices, and we will every one do the imagination of his evil heart. Jeremiah 18:12

 

Christian

 

And when he had called the people unto him with his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. Mark 8:34

 

Do You See

 

Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever. 1 John 2:15-17

 

Any Difference Between

 

My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.

 

He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

 

But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked. 1 John 2:1-6

 

The Two?

[donfish06]

Many have tried to make it a pagan day, from those who say it was on the winter soltice, which is several days before, to those who commercialize it or cloud it with fairy tails. Some say that Martin Luther began the Christmas Tree tradition. Other traditions like mistletoe and yule logs are definitely pagan in origin. .

Why is it celebrated in Dec? I think most historians agree that He was not born in Dec.

 

 

But if we dedicate a thing to God, doesn't it belong to Him? Christmas is dedicated to the birth of Christ and has been for many centuries. Giving of gifts is certainly of God, Who gave us His only Son. Even the maji presented gifts to the baby Jesus at His home, though probably not at the manger. The giving of gifts is a Godly tradition and should be stripped of the greed promoted by commerce.

 

Cain dedicated his sacrifice to God, and God didn't accept it. God had a way to be worshiped, the way Abel did. God told Cain if he just did like his brother, he would be fine, but he wanted to worship God his way.

[Guest]

Cain dedicated his sacrifice to God, and God didn't accept it. God had a way to be worshiped, the way Abel did. God told Cain if he just did like his brother, he would be fine, but he wanted to worship God his way.

 

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Light Up The World

 

Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid. Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house. Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven. Matthew 5:14-16

 

Celebrate~!

 

And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night. And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid.

 

And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord. And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger.

 

And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying, Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men. Luke 2:8-14

[other one]

I've posted a video that does a fairly good job of showing that Jesus was born sometime in mid September of 3 bc and December 25th of 2bc was when the Wise Men brought the gifts.

[Willa]

Many have tried to make it a pagan day, from those who say it was on the winter soltice, which is several days before, to those who commercialize it or cloud it with fairy tails. Some say that Martin Luther began the Christmas Tree tradition. Other traditions like mistletoe and yule logs are definitely pagan in origin. .

Why is it celebrated in Dec? I think most historians agree that He was not born in Dec.

 

 

But if we dedicate a thing to God, doesn't it belong to Him? Christmas is dedicated to the birth of Christ and has been for many centuries. Giving of gifts is certainly of God, Who gave us His only Son. Even the maji presented gifts to the baby Jesus at His home, though probably not at the manger. The giving of gifts is a Godly tradition and should be stripped of the greed promoted by commerce.

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Cain dedicated his sacrifice to God, and God didn't accept it. God had a way to be worshiped, the way Abel did. God told Cain if he just did like his brother, he would be fine, but he wanted to worship God his way.

You are free to boycott celebrating the birth of Christ. Both Scrooge and the grinch tried that and it didn't work for them either. lol.

The joy we share is given by the Holy Spirit as we celebrate in Him that God came in the flesh. We worship in Spirit and in truth.

We afford you the right to do as you please and ignore His birth regardless of the date. If it is against your conscience to celebrate I wouldn't want you to do that. But I do pray that you be freed from your bondage soas to know the peace and the joy that can be found in Him.

"God bless us, every one" was Tiny Tim's benedictiion.

And blessings to you, as well.

Willa

[other one]

 

Why is it celebrated in Dec? I think most historians agree that He was not born in Dec.

 

 

 

He was born mid September in 3BC and the wise men paid him a visit on December 25th 2BC.   That was actually the first Christmas.....

 

How we've gone from giving him gifts to giving ourselves gifts is a whole other can or worms.

[silviawang]

a bbc documentary said that christmas is imitate Mithras

and worshipping Virgin Mary is imitate an egyption goddess

that's all came from roman empire