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John 20:1-2

20:1 Now on the first day of the week Mary Magdalene came early to the tomb, while it was still dark, and saw the stone already taken away from the tomb.

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The sabbath starts at sundown and ends at sunup.      But John tells us that it was still dark and the stone was rolled away.

 

If I look at the same day of the year from last year, the sun set on Thursday at 7:12 PM   and rose Sunday morning at 6 AM

 

So, he died at about 3 PM as I remember so he was actually dead for 4 hours on Thursday.....   don't know how long it took to get him into the tomb.  

 

I did check and it is my opinion that Jesus was born in 3 BC and would have died in 30 AD at the age of about 33 or so. 

 

So it looks to me like he needs to have died on Thursday about 3 PM and rose just before sunrise on Sunday.

Passover was on Friday for the Year 31 AD

Question is can we get three days and three nights in that????  Ponder a bit with me here.

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Does this help?

 

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Does this help?

 

It doesn't with me, for John says that the stone rolled away while it was dark, and he was not in the tomb when the girls arrived.   So the third day being sunday, or rising on Sunday and counting that as a day doesn't work for me personally..

 

However I am told by some friends that should know that the Jews of that time counted part of a day as a whole day and the 4 hours he was dead on Thursday afternoon would be considered Day one.     With that in mind the three days would be Thursday Friday and Saturday and the nights would be the same......   Rose sometime before sunup Sunday morning.

 

And it all works out for me

 

So as in other times I have changed my mind in the middle of a thread....  Thanks to those in the discussion......  

 

Died on Thursday afternoon and rose before sunup on Sunday and if what I am told by friends as to Thursday after is considered a full day everything works out..

So he died about 3:00 Pm on Thursday April 6th, and rose late Saturday night April 8th in 30 AD.  And Friday April 7th was Passover. that year.

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John 20:1-2

20:1 Now on the first day of the week Mary Magdalene came early to the tomb, while it was still dark, and saw the stone already taken away from the tomb.

NASB

 

The sabbath starts at sundown and ends at sunup.      But John tells us that it was still dark and the stone was rolled away.

 

 

 

Hi other one.

So  does it start on a friday at 6pm, and end at say around 6am?  that would only make the sabbath lasting only 12 hrs?, or do you mean sun-up the next day?

 

If I look at the same day of the year from last year, the sun set on Thursday at 7:12 PM   and rose Sunday morning at 6 AM

 

So, he died at about 3 PM as I remember so he was actually dead for 4 hours on Thursday.....   don't know how long it took to get him into the tomb.  

 

Thats interesting, thank you.

Yes he was crucified at 9am, and died at 3pm.

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I

did check and it is my opinion that Jesus was born in 3 BC and would have died in 30 AD at the age of about 33 or so. 

 

To me that doesn't make sense!  Am I missing something?

Doesn't BC mean before Christ?

 

So it looks to me like he needs to have died on Thursday about 3 PM and rose just before sunrise on Sunday.

 

I've actually made a mistake on my table with the day he was captured.  I'm kicking myself.

It's come to my attention that he was captured on thursday early hours of the morning.  Remember he was praying and Peter couldn't stay awake.  It would of been way way way after midnight, early hrs of the morning.

 

On the first day of the week he was risen, and it had to be the third day to coincide with the scriptures.

 The first day of the week is sunday, but I don't know if they actually had a sunday back then, so the day after sat.

 

Passover was on Friday for the Year 31 AD

Question is can we get three days and three nights in that????  Ponder a bit with me here.

 

Interesting.

I will definately ponder with you brother, and take into account everything pointed out.

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Does this help?

 

 

Count them:

 

Thursday Night - Friday - 1st night and 1st day

Friday Night - Saturday - 2nd night and 2nd day

Saturday Night - Sunday Morning - 3rd night and 3rd day

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Yes it makes sense when you put it that way too.

 

But if Sunday morning was the third day he rose, we start there, then go backwards,

then where is the third night?

Remember I'm going backwards from Sunday being the third day he rose.  Sunday is the key.

 

I made a mistake with the day he was captured,...I will amend the table, but it doesn't affect the day he died....

because the sabbath was drawing near when he was hanging on the cross, dead, and there was an urgency to have him taken down, and in the tomb before sundown, around 6pm.  I see this as another clue, that he must of died on a friday, and we know for sure it was at 3pm.

 

I know you said before there are different sabbaths, but normally when the word sabbath is mentioned in the scriptures it refers to the weekly sabbath that they kept every week, where no one was allowed to work etc..,

and his death coincided during the feast of unleavened bread which is called the passover, and goes for 7 days.

 

I found these scriptures to help me put it into perspective a little better.

 

Leviticus 23:5   In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD'S passover.

Leviticus 23:6   And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.

 

 

Luke 22:1   Now the feast of unleavened bread drew nigh, which is called the Passover.

 

 

Matthew 26:17   Now the first day of the feast of unleavened bread the disciples came to Jesus, saying unto him, Where wilt thou that we prepare for thee to eat the passover?

Matthew 26:19   And the disciples did as Jesus had appointed them; and they made ready the passover.

This was the last supper. 

 

I am open to everyones input, and value it, and from there we can use the process of elimination.

I have been putting this subject in the "too hard basket" for too long now.

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not so important, what is, is that he rose again on the third day. As a sign to everyone that God sent him

You are absolutely right brother.

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3daysnights.jpg

 

 

Just click on it.....    The Worthy Software reduces photos so different sized can be shown....   Just click on the table and it will jump out at you and is easily read...

 

 

Thank you. Problem sorted!

 

 

I would add only one thing.....   It seems to me that Jesus had risen before sunrise Sunday morning, leaving no third day in the ground.

Ok, thanks. Lets look at the scriptures.

 

It was prophesied he would be raised on the third day

Matthew 16:21   From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.

Matthew 17:23   And they shall kill him, and the third day he shall be raised again. And they were exceeding sorry.

Matthew 20:19   And shall deliver him to the Gentiles to mock, and to scourge, and to crucify him: and the third day he shall rise again.

Mark 9:31   For he taught his disciples, and said unto them, The Son of man is delivered into the hands of men, and they shall kill him; and after that he is killed, he shall rise the third day.

Mark 10:34   And they shall mock him, and shall scourge him, and shall spit upon him, and shall kill him: and the third day he shall rise again.

 

 Luke 9:22   Saying, The Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be slain, and be raised the third day.

 Luke 18:33   And they shall scourge him, and put him to death: and the third day he shall rise again.

 Luke 24:7   Saying, The Son of man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and the third day rise again.

 Luke 24:46   And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:

 

There's quite a lot of verses attesting to his rising on the third day.

 

And after the fact...

 

Acts 10:40   Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly;

1 Corinthians 15:4   And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

 

It's confirmed it happened as prophesised

 

Now the details of exactly when...

Matthew 28:1   In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.

 Matthew 28:2   And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.

 

 Mark 16:1   And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him.

 Mark 16:2   And very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun.

 Mark 16:3   And they said among themselves, Who shall roll us away the stone from the door of the sepulchre?

 Mark 16:4   And when they looked, they saw that the stone was rolled away: for it was very great.

 

Luke 24:1   Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.

Luke 24:2   And they found the stone rolled away from the sepulchre.

 

Matthew says Mary came as it came to dawn towards the first day of the week (moments before sunrise sunday) in the end of the sabbath

Mark says when the sabbath was past, very early in the first day of the week

Luke says the first day of the week, very early in the morning.

 

The only thing I can conclude was that Mary was making her way into the burial ground just minutes before sunrise, or maybe even a minute earlier, or so,

by the time she got there to the actual tomb, Christ was already risen in those few moments of her arriving.

It looks as though, Christ was raised as soon as the sun was up, the exact moment it became the third day, on sunday daylight.

 

Would you agree to those facts?

 

Can anyone tell me what time sabbath officially ends

 
Matthew 28:1-6
1. ¶ In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.
2. And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.
3. His countenance was like lightning, and his raiment white as snow:
4. And for fear of him the keepers did shake, and became as dead men.
5. And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified.
6. He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay.
 
This occurred late on Sabbath day, just before sunset Saturday (as the Sabbath ended at sunset). (Levitucs 23:32; Mark 1:32) Thus, we have found perfect harmony.
The tomb was found empty each time. Matthew has told of a visit late on the Sabbath at which time Jesus had risen. If Jesus arose just before sunset Sabbath (Saturday), when was he crucified?
 
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Does this help?

 

It doesn't with me, for John says that the stone rolled away while it was dark, and he was not in the tomb when the girls arrived.   So the third day being sunday, or rising on Sunday and counting that as a day doesn't work for me personally..

 

However I am told by some friends that should know that the Jews of that time counted part of a day as a whole day and the 4 hours he was dead on Thursday afternoon would be considered Day one.     With that in mind the three days would be Thursday Friday and Saturday and the nights would be the same......   Rose sometime before sunup Sunday morning.

 

And it all works out for me

 

So as in other times I have changed my mind in the middle of a thread....  Thanks to those in the discussion......  

 

Died on Thursday afternoon and rose before sunup on Sunday and if what I am told by friends as to Thursday after is considered a full day everything works out..

So he died about 3:00 Pm on Thursday April 6th, and rose late Saturday night April 8th in 30 AD.  And Friday April 7th was Passover. that year.

 

John records an earlier visit of Mary Magdalene coming to the tomb early the first day of the week, while it was YET DARK. (John 20:1-5) It could hardly be sunrise and yet dark at the same time. Mary Magdalene may have been alone this time for no other person is mentioned. She found the tomb empty at this earlier visit and ran and told Peter and John, who when they came, found the tomb empty. All three believed the body to have been stolen, for as yet they did not believe in his resurrection. After Peter and John returned home, Mary stood without, weeping. After his resurrection, Jesus made his first appearance to her early the first day of the week. (John 20:14-17)
 
John 20:1-5
1. ¶ The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.
2. Then she runneth, and cometh to Simon Peter, and to the other disciple, whom Jesus loved, and saith unto them, They have taken away the Lord out of the sepulchre, and we know not where they have laid him.
3. Peter therefore went forth, and that other disciple, and came to the sepulchre.
4. So they ran both together: and the other disciple did outrun Peter, and came first to the sepulchre.
5. And he stooping down, and looking in, saw the linen clothes lying; yet went he not in.
Jesus was risen at the time he appeared - first to Mary Magdalene early the first day of the week. Compare with John 20:14-17. No proof here for a Sunday resurrection!! Mark is merely stating the time of Jesus' appearance and not of his resurrection, which agrees with John's account. Mark 16:9-10
9. ¶ Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils.
10. And she went and told them that had been with him, as they mourned and wept.
 
 that the tomb was empty at every visit to it on Sunday morning, even when it was yet dark.
 
In the end of the Sabbath (late on Sabbath), as it began to dawn TOWARDS the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulcher. And behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the STONE from the door, and sat upon it "... and the angel said unto the women, I know ye seek Jesus, which was crucified. He is NOT here: for he is RISEN (Matthew 28:1-6)
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in Matthew 28:1, the meaning of the verse is: "that as a routine, weekly, Saturday Sabbath was just about to end, a whole new week was approaching and just about to begin;" 
(i.e. "....as it began to dawn toward first of week...", -or- "....as time began to draw-on toward the very first moment of a new week..."). 
In verse 1, the word "dawn" ("epiphosko" [ep-ee-foce'-ko] - Strong's #G2020) means to DRAW-ON toward something, especially in terms of time. 
 
Since the Passover crucifixion, death and burial had been on a Wednesday, and since Christ Jesus spent three full days and three full nights in the grave (72 hours, The Sign Of Jonah, Matt. 12: 38-40), we learn from Matt. 28:1; that Christ Jesus was raised from the dead at - or less than a minute after - sundown, as a Hebrew's, routine, weekly, Saturday Sabbath had just officially expired. This was the routine, weekly, Saturday Sabbath following the Passover Crucifixion. (See: John 18:39) This routine, weekly, Saturday Sabbath, however, was NOT the High Holy Day Sabbath which followed the day of crucifixion and burial. (See: John 19:31) . 
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may be relevant, this was compiled by a friend, not my work, it looks good to me though

 

It is the common belief that Jesus rode into Jerusalem on Sunday. ( referred to as "palm Sunday"). It is also a common belief that Jesus was crucified on Friday (referred to as "good Friday")


A Bible believer knows that Jesus was not crucified on Friday because Matthew 12:40 says he was in the heart of the earth 3 days and 3 nights. We know he arose Saturday night because the women found the tomb empty Sunday morning. (Mat 28:1, Mk 16:1-2, Lk 24:1-2, Jn 20:1) You can't get 3 days and 3 nights between Friday and Sunday morning! I know that people try to say that Jesus is talking about partial days in Matthew 12:40 but Jesus himself corrected that heresy in John 11:9! (if you are a bible believer)



Since the world teaches the wrong day concerning Jesus crucifixion, It may be that they also teach the wrong day concerning his "triumphal entry into Jerusalem! Check out the following scriptures and see what you think:



1. John 12:1 gives us a starting time frame of 6 days before the passover. We know that Jesus was crucified on the same day as the passover feast which was instituted in Exodus 12:5-6 (the 14th day of the Jewish first month) We also know from Mat 12:40 that he was crucified on Wednesday. The time frame given in John 12:1 puts us 6 days back before the passover. The passover was obviously Wednesday so 6 days before Wednesday would be on Thursday.



2. Now watch the sequence of events in John chapter 12, John 12:12-15 says that he entered Jerusalem on the next day! It looks to me like it may have been a "palm Friday" instead of a "palm Sunday"!



3. We have some more information that we can look at to back this up! The book of Mark is going to list the days between Jesus entry into Jerusalem and the crucifixion day:



a) He rides into Jerusalem in Mark 11:1-10 (Friday according to John 12:1)



b) The next day occurs in Mark 11:12 where Jesus curses the fig tree (this would be Saturday) Saturday evening is in Mark 11:19.



c) The next day occurs in Mark 11:20 where Jesus sees the fig tree dried up. (this would be Sunday)



d) The next two days are accounted for in Mark 14:1 where a statement is made accounting for two more days. (this would account for Monday and Tuesday "After these two days it would be Wednesday and that is the day that Jesus was crucified.

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