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If i was to say that I hate murder, would you accuse me of hating murderers?

 

No, probably not.

 

If I told you that adultery was wrong would you accuse me of having hatred towards those who commit adultery?

 

No, probably not.

 

If I was to tell you that I detest Satanism would you accuse me of hating people who worship Satan?

 

No probably not.

 

If I was tell you that homosexuality is an abomination to the Lord would you accuse me of despising gay people?

 

No probably not.

 

So why on Earth when I claim that Islam is evil am I often accused of hating Muslims? Is this just a case of people hearing what they want to hear?

 

 

If I had a penny for every time this 'straw man' has been used against me, I'd be a rich man!


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Political Correctness. That happens with sexual preferences and race also. It seems that if someone stand against something someone does, they are then accused of hating the whole group they belong to.

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i've heard adulterers make accusations that someone who stands against adultery hates the person who commits it. likewise, we see people ALL the time claiming that anyone who says the Bible calls homosexual behavior an  hates gay people.

 

by the same token, i get called "hater" and "racist" and everything else if i so much as say that illegal immigration is wrong. i get similar accusations by people who see my avatar on fb (it says 'i stand with israel') even if i haven't said a word about israel, or the conflict over there. 

 

so it does not surprise me a bit that you're being accused of hating muslims when you say islam is evil. in fact, i'd be shocked if you weren't being accused that way.


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Yes, as were the days of Noah, so shall it be during the end times. Remember that there were only Noah and his family who were following after God.


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If someone were to say they hate Christianity I might take it personally because I identify with Christ. So muslims may also take it personally if you were to say you hate their faith. Most gay people would also be offended in the same way because most of them identify with their sin these days and claim to be proud of it. People who aren't muslim or gay may have friends who are and take up their offence.

Personally, I hate the sins but not the sinner as well. And I consider many of the beliefs in the koran to be sinful, as well as the tenents of satanism. However, many muslims consider our beliiefs to be sinful as well, such as exposing my face or legs, or wearing womens jeans, or worshipping God in Trinity.

So never the twain shall meet in most cases, which will not prevent me from befriending muslims or gay people. It is their ideology that prevent them from coming to God that I hate. In the case of sin, God may use that very sin to bring them to Christ.

But as One Light said, political correctness is a whole lot of it. But those very people are some of the most bigoted toward evangelical Christians I have encountered.


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If someone were to say they hate Christianity I might take it personally because I identify with Christ. So muslims may also take it personally if you were to say you hate their faith. Most gay people would also be offended in the same way because most of them identify with their sin these days and claim to be proud of it. People who aren't muslim or gay may have friends who are and take up their offence.

Personally, I hate the sins but not the sinner as well. And I consider many of the beliefs in the koran to be sinful, as well as the tenents of satanism. However, many muslims consider our beliiefs to be sinful as well, such as exposing my face or legs, or wearing womens jeans, or worshipping God in Trinity.

So never the twain shall meet in most cases, which will not prevent me from befriending muslims or gay people. It is their ideology that prevent them from coming to God that I hate. In the case of sin, God may use that very sin to bring them to Christ.

But as One Light said, political correctness is a whole lot of it. But those very people are some of the most bigoted toward evangelical Christians I have encountered.

 

Let's be honest though, it's not Muslims who accuse me of hating them - it's always non-Muslims who do it. If I point out how much of a blasphemy Islam is then all of a sudden I'm a Muslim hater and/ or I'm accusing all Muslims of being terrorists. I do get tired of all this.

I personally know a few Muslims and have worked with many, but I still get accused of having never met any.

This is another thing that annoys me. People think that if you criticise Islam then you're a bigot who's obviously never met any Muslims. What a ridiculous assumption to make.

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If someone were to say they hate Christianity I might take it personally because I identify with Christ. So muslims may also take it personally if you were to say you hate their faith. Most gay people would also be offended in the same way because most of them identify with their sin these days and claim to be proud of it. People who aren't muslim or gay may have friends who are and take up their offence.

Personally, I hate the sins but not the sinner as well. And I consider many of the beliefs in the koran to be sinful, as well as the tenents of satanism. However, many muslims consider our beliiefs to be sinful as well, such as exposing my face or legs, or wearing womens jeans, or worshipping God in Trinity.

So never the twain shall meet in most cases, which will not prevent me from befriending muslims or gay people. It is their ideology that prevent them from coming to God that I hate. In the case of sin, God may use that very sin to bring them to Christ.

But as One Light said, political correctness is a whole lot of it. But those very people are some of the most bigoted toward evangelical Christians I have encountered.

 

Let's be honest though, it's not Muslims who accuse me of hating them - it's always non-Muslims who do it. If I point out how much of a blasphemy Islam is then all of a sudden I'm a Muslim hater and/ or I'm accusing all Muslims of being terrorists. I do get tired of all this.

I personally know a few Muslims and have worked with many, but I still get accused of having never met any.

This is another thing that annoys me. People think that if you criticise Islam then you're a bigot who's obviously never met any Muslims. What a ridiculous assumption to make.

 

There is a tendency here in the west, because most of us have been exposed to religions like Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism,  to view all religions or ideologies as being the same.   Many do not really critically examine what Islam teaches because they see islam as being basically the same as Christianity or other religions.

 

Many are not taught the bloodthirsty history of Islam and how it was spread over the world.  Many don't know that it was the Muslims who made the crusades happen.   They see Islam as a benign belief system and have never critically examined it.

 

There is a naivete in the west and Islamic groups who promote Jihad take full advantage of that naivete.


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I spent a great deal of time looking into what some people say about Islam. I found that the so-called verses of the sword are not supposed to be translated the way some people do. I also found a jhead is an inner war against sin, which really isn't so different than Paul saying he was at war with his flesh, which wants to sin, but his spirit doesn't. That's a jhead. The over whelming majority of Muslims define it this way. But ISIS does not. Most of the Muslim world has condemned ISIS for what they're doing. The ones who haven't are scared of ISIS. 

 

I want to see peace between all peoples of all religions. ISIS is clearly being run by Satan. All ISIS does is kill, steal, and destroy. That's the devil for you.


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It depends on a lot of things. How one expresses oneself, how one may be fixated on one theme or subject, ones heart, etc. So your question does not have a simple answer.

 

Pro 6:16  There are six things that the LORD hates, seven that are an abomination to him: 
Pro 6:17  haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, 
Pro 6:18  a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, 
Pro 6:19  a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers. 
 
Hate can mean different things to different people.
 
I hate it when someone ties a plastic shopping bag in a knot that can't be undone. Especially when there are goodies inside. Not the same thing as hating pride, or lies, or murder, etc.

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I spent a great deal of time looking into what some people say about Islam. I found that the so-called verses of the sword are not supposed to be translated the way some people do. I also found a jhead is an inner war against sin, which really isn't so different than Paul saying he was at war with his flesh, which wants to sin, but his spirit doesn't. That's a jhead. The over whelming majority of Muslims define it this way. But ISIS does not. Most of the Muslim world has condemned ISIS for what they're doing. The ones who haven't are scared of ISIS. 

 

I want to see peace between all peoples of all religions. ISIS is clearly being run by Satan. All ISIS does is kill, steal, and destroy. That's the devil for you.

JTC  in a sense you are right about there being a Jihad against inner sin.....   but don't let them tell you that it is the only Jihad.  

Please take the time to read the Koran and the parts of Sharia Law that pertain to this in "Reliance of the Traveller" which is the certified English translation of Shiria Law from the sect of Islam that is the Muslim Brotherhood.....   in this you will find both jihad's, but there is much more emphasis put on the jihad to put the world inder Sharia......    you really should do this before you mislead people into only seeing a small part of Islam.....   and I might add to the destruction of western civilization.

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