The devil continues

[justfaith]

Why has God allow the devil to continue ?

I believe that God could take Satan out anytime he chose and stop all this madness 

when satan sin in heaven first why did God allow him in the garden of eden and not prevent him from going there 

 

Why has God allow the devil to continue ?  Why did not God kill the devil the moment he sin ?

[ncn]

We need to trust God always!

 

His ways are not our ways.

 

We may not understand His plans but we must place our trust in Him, for He knows best.

 

Psa 18:30 

As for God, his way is perfect: The word of Jehovah is tried; He is a shield unto all them that take refuge in him.

 

Isa 14:24 

The LORD of hosts hath sworn, saying, Surely as I have thought, so shall it come to pass; and as I have purposed, so shall it stand:

 

We need to stand firm and not question God's plan. 

 

Romans 8:38-39 

For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,

Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

[kwikphilly]

Blessings justfaith

     We can ask "Why" again & again & truly ,it is as Scripture tells us & that which we know

 

 

9New International Version (NIV)

8 “For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
    neither are your ways my ways,”
declares the Lord.
9 “As the heavens are higher than the earth,
    so are my ways higher than your ways
    and my thoughts than your thoughts.                                                                                                                      Isaiah 55:8-9

I agree with ncn,we must trust in the Lord,,,,,not questioning His Plan                       With love-in Christ,Kwik       God Bless You Sister

[OneLight]

The whole idea behind salvation is choice.  God wants us to choose to love Him, not by force.  Even the angels were given free will, as were we.  We will be judged by your heart, just as they were.  If there is nothing to choose between, then there is no choice.

[Snow]

Hi justfaith

You ask great questions. This ‘madness’  is all Gods plan, it is All happening under His watchful eye.  Jesus death and resurrection was fore ordained before the foundation  of the world. The events in the garden of Eden, are part of Gods plan.

I just want to let You know You just called Gods plan madness.

 

God Bless

[Marilyn C]

Hi justfaith,

 

`Why has God allowed the Devil to continue?` you ask. Many people wonder that too. But as the others have said it is a part of God`s plan. We know that God is a God of justice.

 

`Ascribe greatness to our God! The Rock! His work is perfect, For all His ways are just; a God of faithfulness & without injustice, righteous & upright is He.` (Deut. 32: 4)

 

Wonderful words & thoughts.

 

Now God could take out Satan anytime He wants, as He is all powerful. However God is not a Dictator, ruling just by might. He rules righteously. So He is showing to `principalities & powers,` the right way to govern. Satan usurped power over mankind & now has `legal,` control of each person, as we all succumb to him. However Christ, when manifested as a man, never gave over His right over the earth & thus Satan has no control over Him. So all who come to Christ are now able to overcome the enemy.

 

This is a great subject for it brings out the great victory of our Lord in every realm & by `legal` means not by just superior strength & power. Remember that the great Lord of glory at His most vulnerable time in the garden & on the cross, could have called on 12 legions of angels to rescue Him. But no. Christ overcame by being the substitute for our sins & because Satan had no claim on Him, Christ rose triumphant from the grave. And we will too. How utterly astounding that will be!!!!!

 

Great question, justfaith. And blessings, Marilyn.

[Openly Curious]

Why has God allow the devil to continue ?

I believe that God could take Satan out anytime he chose and stop all this madness 

when satan sin in heaven first why did God allow him in the garden of eden and not prevent him from going there 

 

Why has God allow the devil to continue ?  Why did not God kill the devil the moment he sin ?

Because God has and had other "future" plans in which the devil will play a part in. When those future plans are finally fulfilled then the devil and the wicked angels that rebelled with him will get their due punishment. Sometimes having patience is a hard thing living in this wicked world with all of it's hazards and sufferings. But we as believers must as James said "let patience have her perfect work" when our faith is being tried because we shall reap everlasting life if we faint not. It gets weary I know listening to the news and all the violence and killing and the uncertainty going on around us and we just scratch our heads in disbelief utterly astounded at the depth of depravity some people will go to in their wickedness apart from the God of the Bible. Sometimes our personal lives are touched with death of loved ones, depression and longing to be free and all of it sometimes makes us ask the "why" questions.

Why didn't God deal with Satan right from the start when he rebelled against God whenever he was lifted up in his pride. Why did God delay the punishment of Satan from the start. But we have to remember and always trust in the plan and will of God which we have been given which is the written word of God and all of it will come to pass in due season and in God's chosen order of things. Even if we do not have all the answers to everything and all the answers to all the "why" questions. Being believers we have to walk in and live by faith we must simply trust and obey the "part" that we have been given. That part in which we have been given in this life will one day pass away and we will know in full. There will be no dying there, no heartache, murder, terrorists, hatred, no sin whatsoever, no crying, no more suffering of any kind, no more devil(yes and amen) to tempt the hearts of man, no demons or wicked angels in the kingdom of darkness, no more spiritual warfare with Satan and his army for they will be brought down and destroyed and burn "forever" in the lake of fire.

Take comfort from the words in scripture and know for a certainty the devil will have his end it will come to pass. Jesus told his disciples his followers when speaking and given the signs of the end-time events that will take place in the earth and he said that when all these things comes to pass "the end is not yet". But the end will come but it will be according to God's plans and in his time. God is Soveriegn and he knows far better than we what he is doing and why he is doing it the way he has chosen to do it that way. HE understands his own plans in full we only know in part. But all the promises of God are yes and amen and God is not slack concerning his promises there will be a new heaven and new earth the former shall pass away and behold the new shall come. Eye hath not seen nor ear hath heard of all of what God has got layed up in store for us. We must be patient in waiting for it because the trying of our faith will come out as "precious gold" and in due season we shall reap everlasting life. It may look and seem like sometimes the devil has gotten away with things but it isn't true for in "due season" he will come to his prophesied end foretold to us in the scripture.

[justfaith]

Hi justfaith,

 

`Why has God allowed the Devil to continue?` you ask. Many people wonder that too. But as the others have said it is a part of God`s plan. We know that God is a God of justice.

 

`Ascribe greatness to our God! The Rock! His work is perfect, For all His ways are just; a God of faithfulness & without injustice, righteous & upright is He.` (Deut. 32: 4)

 

Wonderful words & thoughts.

 

Now God could take out Satan anytime He wants, as He is all powerful. However God is not a Dictator, ruling just by might. He rules righteously. So He is showing to `principalities & powers,` the right way to govern. Satan usurped power over mankind & now has `legal,` control of each person, as we all succumb to him. However Christ, when manifested as a man, never gave over His right over the earth & thus Satan has no control over Him. So all who come to Christ are now able to overcome the enemy.

 

This is a great subject for it brings out the great victory of our Lord in every realm & by `legal` means not by just superior strength & power. Remember that the great Lord of glory at His most vulnerable time in the garden & on the cross, could have called on 12 legions of angels to rescue Him. But no. Christ overcame by being the substitute for our sins & because Satan had no claim on Him, Christ rose triumphant from the grave. And we will too. How utterly astounding that will be!!!!!

 

Great question, justfaith. And blessings, Marilyn.

Did God know satan would have sin ? Why did not God stop it before it happen ?

[justfaith]

 

Why has God allow the devil to continue ?

I believe that God could take Satan out anytime he chose and stop all this madness 

when satan sin in heaven first why did God allow him in the garden of eden and not prevent him from going there 

 

Why has God allow the devil to continue ?  Why did not God kill the devil the moment he sin ?

Because God has and had other "future" plans in which the devil will play a part in. When those future plans are finally fulfilled then the devil and the wicked angels that rebelled with him will get their due punishment. Sometimes having patience is a hard thing living in this wicked world with all of it's hazards and sufferings. But we as believers must as James said "let patience have her perfect work" when our faith is being tried because we shall reap everlasting life if we faint not. It gets weary I know listening to the news and all the violence and killing and the uncertainty going on around us and we just scratch our heads in disbelief utterly astounded at the depth of depravity some people will go to in their wickedness apart from the God of the Bible. Sometimes our personal lives are touched with death of loved ones, depression and longing to be free and all of it sometimes makes us ask the "why" questions.

Why didn't God deal with Satan right from the start when he rebelled against God whenever he was lifted up in his pride. Why did God delay the punishment of Satan from the start. But we have to remember and always trust in the plan and will of God which we have been given which is the written word of God and all of it will come to pass in due season and in God's chosen order of things. Even if we do not have all the answers to everything and all the answers to all the "why" questions. Being believers we have to walk in and live by faith we must simply trust and obey the "part" that we have been given. That part in which we have been given in this life will one day pass away and we will know in full. There will be no dying there, no heartache, murder, terrorists, hatred, no sin whatsoever, no crying, no more suffering of any kind, no more devil(yes and amen) to tempt the hearts of man, no demons or wicked angels in the kingdom of darkness, no more spiritual warfare with Satan and his army for they will be brought down and destroyed and burn "forever" in the lake of fire.

Take comfort from the words in scripture and know for a certainty the devil will have his end it will come to pass. Jesus told his disciples his followers when speaking and given the signs of the end-time events that will take place in the earth and he said that when all these things comes to pass "the end is not yet". But the end will come but it will be according to God's plans and in his time. God is Soveriegn and he knows far better than we what he is doing and why he is doing it the way he has chosen to do it that way. HE understands his own plans in full we only know in part. But all the promises of God are yes and amen and God is not slack concerning his promises there will be a new heaven and new earth the former shall pass away and behold the new shall come. Eye hath not seen nor ear hath heard of all of what God has got layed up in store for us. We must be patient in waiting for it because the trying of our faith will come out as "precious gold" and in due season we shall reap everlasting life. It may look and seem like sometimes the devil has gotten away with things but it isn't true for in "due season" he will come to his prophesied end foretold to us in the scripture.

 

Does God know the end from the beginning ? why did He make something that He knew would rebel in the first place ?

[Marilyn C]

Hi justfaith,
 
Again, very good questions & ones that help us to understand God, His character & His purposes. Now you asked -
 

 

`Did God know Satan would have sin ? Why did not God stop it before it happen ?`

 

Yes God did know that `Satan would sin,` because God is omniscient - all knowing. So then why create Him? God could have made just robot type angels & people but He made us all with our own wills. This means we can choose to be our own master or we can choose to follow God`s ways.

 

So there we see Satan, the most beautiful creature that God ever made, choosing to lift up his heart & desire to be God. (Ez. 28: 5 & 6) Now right there do the angels know whether Satan would be a `good` leader or not. God is just, & although Satan is cast from the holy place, he is given an opportunity to show his rulership. Thus we see in Ephesians Paul saying that God is showing `Principalities & Powers,` His wisdom in how He deals with Satan. (Eph. 3: 10)

 

`...your heart was lifted up because of your beauty; you corrupted your wisdom by reason of your splendour......` (Ez. 28: 17)

 

 

The Lord Jesus Christ manifested as a man & when He arose victorious from the grave, He ascended & is now glorified & exalted in the highest heavens. He has now taken that rulership place where Satan ruled & even beyond that - far above all. And we know that Christ`s heart in rulership will not be lifted up, but is in obedience to the Father. Christ showed His heart by dying for us. Satan shows his heart by trying to control & manipulate us.

 

To have `sons` that give freely their hearts & wills meant that God had to undergird this with Him paying the price of our sinfulness, which He knew would happen. Thus in the heart of God there had to have been `a cross.` Meaning love that gave of itself, all.

 

Blessings, Marilyn.

Edited October 29, 2014 by Marilyn C