the bride of Christ

[Marilyn C]

 

You cannot provide any scripture that actually states the church is the bride of Christ.

 

I did, but you, and several others of your persuasion, simply ignored the Scriptures as well as my comments.  So first of all let's be very clear.  No bride remains a bride for ever.  She ultimately becomes the wife of the bridgegroom, who then becomes her husband.  So note carefully, digest, and meditate on these Scriptures:...

 

 

Hi Ezra.

 

So you say.....The Body, the New Man, is the bride who becomes the wife, then becomes the Queen of heaven, then becomes Kings & Priests?

 

Marilyn.

[Guest shiloh357]

No Willa, the New Covenant is not with the Church.  It is with the House of Israel and the House of Judah.   Gentiles are grafted into covenant community.  They are brought into a covenant that already exists.   God did not start a new Covenant with anyone other than Israel and Judah.

[Openly Curious]

Openly Curious, on 03 March 2015 - 11:37 PM, said:

 

Who do you say is the body of Christ?

 

 

 

 

Marilyn C, on 05 April 2015 -02:23 AM, said:

 

Hi Openly Curious,

 

I appreciate your question & think it would be a good topic on its own.

 

Blessings, Marilyn.

 

 

 

If you want to start your own thread on it you can. 

 

But just a simple answer would have sufficied me.

[other one]

there sure is a lot of turns for this thread.  It's hard to keep up with.

[other one]

 

 

You cannot provide any scripture that actually states the church is the bride of Christ.

 

I did, but you, and several others of your persuasion, simply ignored the Scriptures as well as my comments.  So first of all let's be very clear.  No bride remains a bride for ever.  She ultimately becomes the wife of the bridgegroom, who then becomes her husband.  So note carefully, digest, and meditate on these Scriptures:...

 

 

Hi Ezra.

 

So you say.....The Body, the New Man, is the bride who becomes the wife, then becomes the Queen of heaven, then becomes Kings & Priests?

 

Marilyn.

  is right

[other one]

No Willa, the New Covenant is not with the Church.  It is with the House of Israel and the House of Judah.   Gentiles are grafted into covenant community.  They are brought into a covenant that already exists.   God did not start a new Covenant with anyone other than Israel and Judah.

 

so the new covenant is still with Israel?   and we are grafted in....   right?

[other one]

yeah.....  200 posts and going....

[Openly Curious]

Hi Marilyn, Before I delve into all of this,

Can you tell me your interpretation of just what you believe is the "oath of promise" God made to Abraham"?

I do not want to assume your position. It will help in not derailing the thread on my part as well.

Hi Openly Curious,

Thank you for asking OC & probably a good idea to look at the scripture on the `oath of promise.`

`By Myself have I sworn, said the Lord, …..That in blessing I will bless you, & in multiplying I will multiply your seed as the stars of the heaven, & as the sand which is on the sea shore; & your seed shall possess the gate if His enemies; & in your seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;…` (Gen. 22: 16 – 18)

So here we see, I believe what God is saying to Abraham.

1. God will bless Abraham.

2. God will give some of Abraham`s seed a prominent place in the heavenlies. (as stars of heaven) ie. In the New Jerusalem.

3. God will give some of Abraham`s seed a predominant place on the earth. (as sand of the sea shore) ie. Rulers on earth over the nations.

4. Abraham`s seed, Christ, will possess the gates of His enemies.

5. Through Christ, (of Abraham`s seed) all the nations will be blessed. This is the Body of Christ which has been `called out ` of the nations, & also the nations themselves who will inhabit the New Earth.

Israel & the Body of Christ are sons & heirs with Christ, with the difference of where we will serve.

Marilyn.

It seems to me Marilyn that most of your views are steeped in with the views of PreMillenniallism which I do not believe. The subject of the "oath of promise" should be discussed within another thread. However I do see it relevant to the topic of the OP as the promises belong to the church also. But the focus of this particular thread is on the bride of Christ.

[Guest]

It seems to me Marilyn that most of your views are steeped in with the views of Premillenniallism which I do not believe....

 

The subject of the "oath of promise" should be discussed within another thread.....

 

However I do see it relevant to the topic of the OP as the promises belong to the church also....

 

But the focus of this particular thread is on the bride of Christ....

 

 

Beloved,

 

And it came to pass, that, when the sun went down, and it was dark, behold a smoking furnace, and a burning lamp that passed between those pieces. In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates: Genesis 15:17-18

 

It Maybe Hard

 

For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called. Isaiah 54:5

 

For Some To Believe

 

After this I heard what sounded like the roar of a great multitude in heaven shouting:

“Hallelujah!

Salvation and glory and power belong to our God,

or true and just are his judgments.

He has condemned the great prostitute

who corrupted the earth by her adulteries.

He has avenged on her the blood of his servants.”

 

And again they shouted:

“Hallelujah!

The smoke from her goes up for ever and ever.”

The twenty-four elders and the four living creatures fell down and worshiped God, who was seated on the throne. And they cried:

“Amen, Hallelujah!”

 

Then a voice came from the throne, saying:

“Praise our God,

all you his servants,

you who fear him,

both great and small!”

 

Then I heard what sounded like a great multitude, like the roar of rushing waters and like loud peals of thunder, shouting:

“Hallelujah!

For our Lord God Almighty reigns.

Let us rejoice and be glad

and give him glory!

 

For the wedding of the Lamb has come,

and his bride has made herself ready.

Fine linen, bright and clean,

was given her to wear.”

 

Then the angel said to me, “Write this: Blessed are those who are invited to the wedding supper of the Lamb!” And he added, “These are the true words of God.”

 

At this I fell at his feet to worship him. But he said to me, “Don’t do that! I am a fellow servant with you and with your brothers and sisters who hold to the testimony of Jesus. Worship God! For it is the Spirit of prophecy who bears testimony to Jesus.”

 

I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and wages war. His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God.

 

The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean.

 

Coming out of his mouth is a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. “He will rule them with an iron scepter.” He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written: king of kings and lord of lords.

 

And I saw an angel standing in the sun, who cried in a loud voice to all the birds flying in midair, “Come, gather together for the great supper of God, so that you may eat the flesh of kings, generals, and the mighty, of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all people, free and slave, great and small.”

 

Then I saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to wage war against the rider on the horse and his army. But the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who had performed the signs on its behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped its image. The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur.

 

The rest were killed with the sword coming out of the mouth of the rider on the horse, and all the birds gorged themselves on their flesh. Revelation 19 (NIV)

 

He STILL Loves His Israel

 

Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding in his hand the key to the bottomless pit and a great chain. And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years, and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he might not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were ended. After that he must be released for a little while.

 

Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands.

 

They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.

 

The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection! Over such the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and they will reign with him for a thousand years.

The Defeat of Satan

 

And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea Revelation 20:1-8 (ESV)

 

To The Fiery End

 

And they marched up over the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down from heaven and consumed them, and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever. Revelation 20:9- (ESV)

[Guest shiloh357]

Premillennialism is far more correct than amillennialism, preterism or covenant theology.