How important is the truth to you?

[angels4u]

3 hours ago, simplejeff said:

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modern? dangers - old dangers still today > rcc catholicism exposed. "Jesus +anything else =nothing"

The veil remains - it can be removed today, in Christ, but usually isn't.

2 Corinthians 3:14-16Amplified Bible (AMP)

14 But [in fact] their minds were hardened [for they had lost the ability to understand];

for until this very day at the reading of the old covenant the same veil remains unlifted, because it is removed [only] in Christ. 15 But to this day whenever Moses is read, a veil [of blindness] lies over their heart;

16 but whenever a person turns [in repentance and faith] to the Lord, the veil is taken away.

2 Corinthians 4:3-4Amplified Bible (AMP)

3 But even if our gospel is [in some sense] hidden [behind a veil], it is hidden [only] to those who are perishing; 4 among them the god of this world [Satan] has blinded the minds of the unbelieving to prevent them from seeing the illuminating light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

Amplified Bible (AMP)

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The veil remains - it can be removed today, in Christ, but usually isn't.

God will remove the veil of unbelieve from a persons ears and eyes the minute they give their heart to Him..

2 Cor 3:14

But their minds were made dull, for to this day the same veil remains when the old covenant is read. It has not been removed, because only in Christ is it taken away.

 

[Righttruth]

6 hours ago, simplejeff said:

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modern? dangers - old dangers still today > rcc catholicism exposed. "Jesus +anything else =nothing"

The veil remains - it can be removed today, in Christ, but usually isn't.

2 Corinthians 3:14-16Amplified Bible (AMP)

14 But [in fact] their minds were hardened [for they had lost the ability to understand];

for until this very day at the reading of the old covenant the same veil remains unlifted, because it is removed [only] in Christ. 15 But to this day whenever Moses is read, a veil [of blindness] lies over their heart;

16 but whenever a person turns [in repentance and faith] to the Lord, the veil is taken away.

2 Corinthians 4:3-4Amplified Bible (AMP)

3 But even if our gospel is [in some sense] hidden [behind a veil], it is hidden [only] to those who are perishing; 4 among them the god of this world [Satan] has blinded the minds of the unbelieving to prevent them from seeing the illuminating light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

Amplified Bible (AMP)

Copyright © 2015 by The Lockman Foundation, La Habra, CA 90631. All rights reserved.

Right. Even though the physical veil was torn off, the spiritual veil still remains which goes only through Christ.

[Omegaman 3.0]

The truth is important, but not all truth is equally important. Someone tells me, I have one dollar in my wallet, but actually there are two. Someone tells me I have a bank balance of $300, when actually there is $30. Both of those examples are about money I possess, and both statements are false. The first false statement, is unlikely to have any negative effects, the second false statement, could lead my to make a bad decision. In those cases, I think the truth about the second case, is more important than the first case.

Some subjects are more important than others, in those cases, the truth can be extremely important. At the same time, intentionally telling someone they have $1.01, when they have only $1.00, is enough of a sin to earn eternal separation from God, so seemingly little things, can still be very important - still based on the outcome of things. I did not read the whole thread . . . is there a reason to ask the question?

If it is just about the truth of the Gospel, no question nor answer can be more important, but, it is not necessarily knowing the truth that matters, I think Satan knows the truth.

[thereselittleflower]

22 hours ago, Omegaman 3.0 said:

The truth is important, but not all truth is equally important. Someone tells me, I have one dollar in my wallet, but actually there are two. Someone tells me I have a bank balance of $300, when actually there is $30. Both of those examples are about money I possess, and both statements are false. The first false statement, is unlikely to have any negative effects, the second false statement, could lead my to make a bad decision. In those cases, I think the truth about the second case, is more important than the first case.

Some subjects are more important than others, in those cases, the truth can be extremely important. At the same time, intentionally telling someone they have $1.01, when they have only $1.00, is enough of a sin to earn eternal separation from God, so seemingly little things, can still be very important - still based on the outcome of things. I did not read the whole thread . . . is there a reason to ask the question?

If it is just about the truth of the Gospel, no question nor answer can be more important, but, it is not necessarily knowing the truth that matters, I think Satan knows the truth.

Yet the scriptures say there is sin unto death, and sin not unto death.

• 16If anyone sees his brother committing a sin not leading to death, he shall ask and God will for him give life to those who commit sin not leading to death. There is a sin leading to death; I do not say that he should make request for this. 17All unrighteousness is sin, and there is a sin not leading to death

All sin does not have the same gravity or result.

[thereselittleflower]

1 minute ago, simplejeff said:

If someone says and lives like they put their trust in Jesus, they may be brothers in/with ekklesia.

 

they "may" be brothers in/with ekklesia?

That doesn't sound very certain.

[SINNERSAVED]

What is truth ? if this is the question, then lets go this way , who wants to know the truth ? who will except truth ?

for the truth has been told , by the words of God and the scriptures for all to have and to see, for the bibles that are available , and to those that hear the teachings, to those that are broken and need  a savior, to those that are in need and see the hope, we all need truth , and we have truth , but who wants it anymore, ? the apostacy  that is talked about , is the falling away from the holy God and to follow the path of self, and the masses that shake there fist at God and say we don't need him , we don't want your truth , we want our own Gods , and our own lives separate from the true and living God,

and for those that want and follow truth and try to seek truth with scripture and in want, they find truth , but then we have those , that wants to destroy your truth, for it is a offense to there life and there beliefs, so what is truth , Gods word,  the heavens and earth shall pass, but Gods word Yahweh s word remains, so when we say what is truth, its more like who wants the truth , and who rather live a lie ?

[completedbeliever1]

It is the only thing that matters to me.  Giving people hope is a must, and proving what I believe is a must as well.  Because if I do not have proof to back up what I believe, then I am nothing more than a puppet.  I speak what others have told me, without knowledge, and most importantly, understanding.  We need to push truth, and pull back on our own thinking.

[thereselittleflower]

• 1If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but do not have love, I have become a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. 2If I have the gift of prophecy, and know all mysteries and all knowledge; and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing.3And if I give all my possessions to feed the poor, and if I surrender my body to be burned, but do not have love, it profits me nothing.
• 1 Cor 13

[Kan]

1 hour ago, completedbeliever1 said:

It is the only thing that matters to me.  Giving people hope is a must, and proving what I believe is a must as well.  Because if I do not have proof to back up what I believe, then I am nothing more than a puppet.  I speak what others have told me, without knowledge, and most importantly, understanding.  We need to push truth, and pull back on our own thinking.

Here is a great response which shows the essence of having truth - it is for sharing with others - caring about another's salvation, and caring more for the honor of Christ than "our own thinking."

[Kan]

On 12/25/2015 at 9:01 AM, Omegaman 3.0 said:

The truth is important, but not all truth is equally important. Someone tells me, I have one dollar in my wallet, but actually there are two. Someone tells me I have a bank balance of $300, when actually there is $30. Both of those examples are about money I possess, and both statements are false. The first false statement, is unlikely to have any negative effects, the second false statement, could lead my to make a bad decision. In those cases, I think the truth about the second case, is more important than the first case.

Some subjects are more important than others, in those cases, the truth can be extremely important. At the same time, intentionally telling someone they have $1.01, when they have only $1.00, is enough of a sin to earn eternal separation from God, so seemingly little things, can still be very important - still based on the outcome of things. I did not read the whole thread . . . is there a reason to ask the question?

If it is just about the truth of the Gospel, no question nor answer can be more important, but, it is not necessarily knowing the truth that matters, I think Satan knows the truth.

Yes, and it has to do with the times, for example, the most important truth in the days of Noah was to board the ark.

In Sodom, it was to flee the city.

In the days of Moses, it was the blood of the lamb on the door posts.

In John's day, it was to repent and be baptized.

In Luther's day, it was to go to no priest, except Jesus Christ, for the free remission of sins.

I wonder what the most important truth is today? 

Revelation 14:6, - "the everlasting Gospel" calls for (1.) worship of the Creator "who made heaven and earth," (2.) it recognizes the failure of the systems of religions based on old Babylonian doctrines, and (3.) it warns about receiving "the mark" of the beast - false religion backed by civil authority. See chapter 13.

 

PS. False religions are all the religions of the world, except the pure teachings of the Bible. That means all religions are false, - except one.

So what is the only true religion? It is very clear and simple for all to know - Revelation 14:12. In the same chapter it states "Here is the patience of the saints; here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus."

As Christ said "If you love me, keep my commandments." Would God ask that if we could not be loyal to Him? The Love of God changes people, it removes sin from them and gives them a new way to live - in love, with the natural outcome of obedience.

Without faith in that, it is impossible to please God. So we have no choice in salvation except to fully trust Him - despite all appearances, and we do not consult with our feelings, or self assessments, but we trust in His power to bring something out of nothing - we worship the Creator, who turns darkness into Light. We walk by pure faith.

Further reading, - Genesis 2:1,2. Exodus 31:13-17, Hebrews 4, and 8:10 - 12, I John 5:3, Revelation 22:14.