Does God love everyone? Does God love everyone the same?

[missmuffet]

That's not what Ps. 5:5 and Proverbs 6:19 say. 

I see your point shiloh.

 

The question that begs to be answered at this point is why does God hate these things? God hates them because they are contrary to His nature—God’s nature being holy, pure and righteous. In fact, David writes, “For you are not a God who delights in wickedness;evil may not dwell with you” (Psalm 5:4emphasis added). God is holy and hates sin. If He did not hate sin, He would not be holy. God is love, but He is also wrath, justice, and vengeance. But His wrath is a holy wrath and His justice and vengeance are holy as well. God’s love is holy. Therefore, He cannot "love everyone all the time no matter what they do," as some like to claim. Nothing could be further from the truth. God loves righteousness and holiness and hates sin and evil. If He did not, He would not be God.

So if God hates sin and loves holiness, how does He love us? Simple. He loves us because we have the righteousness of Christ who became sin for us on the cross (2 Corinthians 5:21). He poured out His wrath and vengeance against sin on His Son, so that He could pour out His mercy and love on us. But without that sacrifice credited to us, His wrath and hatred remain on us because He hates our sin. The Bible never says He "hates the sin, but loves the sinner." In fact, He is “angry with the wicked every day” (Psalm 7:11). Is there a sense in which God loves everyone? Yes. Does that love preclude God from also hating sin, wickedness, and evil? No.

Read more:http://www.gotquestions.org/does-God-hate.html#ixzz3bHFHijY8

[angels4u]

The Bible tells us in Psalm 5 that God hates evildoers.    It says in Proverbs 6 that God hates those who shed innocent blood.   We have always said that God doesn't hate anyone, but the Scriptures tell us that there people that God hates.

 

As I stated before and I guess you didn't pick up on is that God doesn't "hate"  the way WE do.   His hatred doesn't exclude his love.   God loves the people he hates and wants them to repent.  It's not something we have  point of reference for in our experience.

 

Amen to that,that is what I thought too,

 

Sorry...I didn't notice you posting that before...

 

Thanks ~~

 

[Bible2]

Omegaman 3.0 said in post 1:

 

Does God love everyone?

 

No, for he hates the nonelect (Romans 9:11-22). During their lifetime, God hardens the nonelect in their sinfulness instead of showing them his mercy (Romans 9:18), because he created them to be vessels of his wrath (Romans 9:20-22, Proverbs 16:4). They were of old ordained to condemnation (Jude 1:4). They were appointed to disobedience (1 Peter 2:8, Acts 2:23). But God never forces them or anyone else to commit sin. He never even tempts anyone to commit sin (James 1:13-15). All people will be justly held accountable for their deeds (Romans 2:6-8), for neither election nor nonelection takes away the free will of people.

 

God created nonelect people to be vessels of his wrath instead of vessels of his mercy so he might eternally make known his wrath and power (Romans 9:21-22, Proverbs 16:4, Revelation 14:10-11). And God created elect people to be vessels of his mercy so he might eternally make known his mercy, glory, and wisdom (Romans 9:23, Ephesians 3:10, Ephesians 1:8,11).

 

God wants these aspects of his nature to be made known to both humans and angels (Ephesians 3:10), neither of which group yet knows experientially the full extent of God's qualities and abilities (1 Corinthians 2:9; 1 Peter 1:12b). For example, the full extent of God's wrath won't be known to humans and angels until Satan and his fallen angels and all of unsaved humanity are cast into the eternal suffering of the lake of fire and brimstone (Matthew 25:41,46, Revelation 20:10,15, Revelation 14:10-11), and saved humans and holy angels go forth from the city of New Jerusalem on the new earth to witness the suffering of the unsaved in the lake of fire (Isaiah 66:24), the eternal hell (Mark 9:45-46), and realize by seeing it, not only the extent of God's wrath, but by it, by way of contrast, the extent of God's mercy toward them (Lamentations 3:22-23). Just as "up" can't be eternally known for what it is without the eternal coexistence of "down", so God's mercy can't be eternally known for what it is without the eternal coexistence of his wrath.

[Bible2]

angels4u said in post 7:

 

Would we be allowed to hate people?

 

No, for if we hate someone, it is spiritually the same as murdering him (1 John 3:15).

 

Also, it is not (as is sometimes said) hypocritical for God to tell us to love our enemies (Matthew 5:44) while he hates his nonelect enemies (Romans 9:11-13). For just as God as Creator has the right to create some people to be nonelect vessels of his wrath (Romans 9:20-22) and other people to be elect vessels of his mercy (Romans 9:23), so God as Creator has the right to hate the nonelect and love the elect (Romans 9:11-13). But as mere creatures, Christians have no right to hate anyone, especially in light of God's love for Christians even while they were yet his enemies (Romans 5:8-10).

 

Also, God doesn't necessarily hate our enemies, for our enemies could be his beloved elect (Romans 11:28). Even the elect start out as God's enemies (Colossians 1:21).

 

Also, God's perfection is different than the perfection of humans, insofar as God's perfection (1 John 1:5, Deuteronomy 32:4) includes not only his love for his elect enemies (Romans 5:10), but also his hatred for his nonelect enemies (Romans 9:11-13). For his hatred for the nonelect and his future, eternal punishment of them (Matthew 25:41,46, Revelation 20:10,15, Mark 9:46) will forever show that aspect of his perfection called his righteous judgment and wrath against evil (Romans 2:5, Revelation 14:10-11, Romans 9:22).

[FresnoJoe]

Does God love everyone?

Does God love everyone the same?

 

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Pretty Much

 

But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Romans 5:8

 

The Same I Think

 

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16

 

For He Adores The Human Race

 

The LORD hath appeared of old unto me, saying, Yea, I have loved thee with an everlasting love: therefore with lovingkindness have I drawn thee. Jeremiah 31:3

 

Even Including Me~!

 

This I recall to my mind, therefore have I hope.

It is of the LORD's mercies that we are not consumed, because his compassions fail not.

They are new every morning: great is thy faithfulness. Lamentations 3:21-23

 

To The Uttermost

 

And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. 1 Timothy 3:16

[Bible2]

FresnoJoe said in post 15:

 

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16

 

John 3:16 doesn't mean God loves everyone in the world, for he hates the nonelect (Romans 9:11-22).

 

What John 3:16 says doesn't require that God loves everyone in the world, just as, for example, saying that a person loves TV doesn't require that that person loves every show on TV. Similarly, God being love (1 John 4:8,16) doesn't mean he loves everyone (Malachi 1:3, Romans 9:13), just as God being a consuming fire (Hebrews 12:29) doesn't mean he is consuming everyone in fire (Revelation 14:10-11). Also, God chastens those he loves during their lifetime (Revelation 3:19, Hebrews 12:6), but not everyone receives chastening from God during their lifetime (Hebrews 12:7-8). Therefore, God doesn't love everyone.

 

In the Bible, "the world" doesn't have to mean everyone in the world. Just as "the world" in John 15:18 and John 16:8-9,20 doesn't include believers, so "the world" in John 3:16 doesn't include the nonelect (Romans 9:11-22). And in the case of, for example, John 18:20, it doesn't include the vast majority of the earth's inhabitants at that time, who didn't hear Jesus speak to them during his preaching before his arrest.

 

FresnoJoe said in post 15:

 

For He Adores The Human Race

 

The LORD hath appeared of old unto me, saying, Yea, I have loved thee with an everlasting love: therefore with lovingkindness have I drawn thee. Jeremiah 31:3

 

Note that Jeremiah 31:3, in its context, isn't addressing the human race.

[Littlelambseativy]

God gave His Son Jesus to die for us when we were sinners but if some reject His sacrifice....how can He love them with the same love?

He loved Jacob because he was born of a free woman yet He says He hated Essau because he was born of a bond woman...so does he love all the same? Perhaps only those because of His foreknowledge, that will accept Jesus and His sacrifice. If someone hates God, does God love him?? If he turns from his wicked ways then yes God will accept him and call him son.

[Kan]

The idea of God hating the non elect, is a misunderstanding.

 

Pharaoh's heart was hardened by the Lord.

 

Love is not welcome with some people, so in trying to reach a person with love, they can be pushed to hate love more, such is the nature of sin and in particular the sin of narcissism.

 

The OT often talks about God bringing low the proud and haughty looks.

Love does that, it humiliates and brings shame onto the sinner, because the sinner is so entrenched in self aggrandizement. 

 

So by being Who He is, the Lord ends up hardening the hearts of many unrepentant sinners, to their own destruction.

 

But it is this very condition of the sinner, which we all have, which God could only destroy by the terrible sacrifice of His only Son.

The wrath of God against this sinful condition and choice, is revealed in the cross, when He refused His own Son to be spared - Christ having taken sin onto Himself.

 

Love is great, and sin is as deserving of wrath.

 

Does God hate Lucifer? No. "O Lucifer, Lucifer, how art thou fallen? How art thou cut down to the ground?" these are the sentiments of God's cry for him. 

God loves His angels very much. Lucifer removed himself from that love. What a tragic and terrible mistake, what an awful train of misery and deception he began.

 

The wrath of God on the wicked, is the direct result of having to endure the extreme pain of separation and loss of them, and enduring their loss and pointless suffering as well, and even more so, the unwanted need to destroy - the anger of God is very intense over the necessity to do something which is utterly foreign to His nature.

 

Does He love all the world? If not, you and I are lost.

[ayin jade]

Does God love everyone?

 

John 3

16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only-begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

 

Romans 5

8 But God commends His love toward us in that while we were yet sinners Christ died for us.

 

Does God love everyone the same?

 

It does seem from the bible that God favored david more than others. Perhaps because for all his faults and sins, david sought the Lord with all his heart mind soul and strength.

[By Faith]

But when it says he hated Esau, it was not talking about contempt.   It was covenant language that simply means that Esau garnered less favor than Jacob in that particular context.

 

There are people that God actually hates, but we have to be careful not to project our carnal idea and expression of hate on God.  Our expression of hate is murderous.    But God hates the very people He loves.   He hates some people, but that hatred is held in righteous, holy perfection and is not the same as our human version which is unforgiving and stems from the flesh.

 

It's not something I think we as humans can emulate, necessarily.

 

 

This is right on, and we see it in scriptures. 

 

God does not even take pleasure if the Wicked perish, He also loved the World so much to send Jesus, and loves us the same as Jesus.

 

Someone that has been faithful in little, someone that honor's God, does what He says. Someone that responds when they think it just might be the Lord saying something. What we notice is levels of Favor. 

 

Our body is not our own, it belongs to the Lord, and it's our reasonable service to present it as a sacrifice. Someone that just sits at home all day and eats potato chips, and might go to church at times don't need healed of something as someone that uses their body for the Lord, and needs to keep moving. I see this a whole lot when the Healing question comes up. If your not honoring God with your body, Then why would you need healed? Your doing nothing anyway, but what what you want.

 

it's not God loves one over the Other, or even did not Love Easu, but Easu despised the things of the Lord, and the Lord hated that. It's favor, that is what we see.

 

Whosoever honors the Lord, Him, the Lord will Honor. 

 

Mike.