What Some Atheists Really Believe....

[gdemoss]

Should have stuck with the first thought, hog wash...

[HAZARD]

God's law is written in all our hearts deep down Atheists believe in God. They can choose not to believe but you can't run away from God forever. 

There's no such thing as an atheist according to the Bible. Romans 1:20-21, “For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse. Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.”

Atheism is defined by Webster's New World Dictionary as, "1) the belief that there is no God, or denial that God or gods exist.2) godlessness." An atheist, therefore, is a person who believes that there is no God. But what does the Bible say?

"The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God." —Psalm 14:1.

 

[SavedOnebyGrace]

Beloved, We Agree To Disagree?

Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. Exodus 20:8-11

Every Saturday?

For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.

For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it. Isaiah 55:8-11

Yes?

By the word of the LORD the heavens were made, their starry host by the breath of his mouth. Psalms 33:6 (NIV)

No?

And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

And the evening and the morning were the fourth day. Genesis 1:14-19

Love, Your Brother Joe

I agree with Hazard here.  But I have to tip my hat to both of you for responding to each other as Christians should, with honor and dignity.  God bless you both.

[AllTheGoodNamesAreTaken]

Yes, it's always a blessing to see Christ Jesus through the patience and love of others

 

[missmuffet]

[Bonky]

So if Muslims try to install Sharia law in your area are you saying you won't say a thing because you don't believe their God exists?   

Kim Davis is a perfect example of what non religious Americans face, there's a reason why we pay attention to evangelicals.  The Catholic church has been telling Africans to not use condoms and the results have been horrible.  We may not believe in their God but we certainly believe that their followers exist.   I don't spend any time fighting any gods, but yes I am interested in what the followers are doing because it impacts the society I live in.

Edited October 22, 2015 by Bonky

[Goldenshark123]

Religion is simply an alternative for those who can't understand science

[Melony]

„Von guten Mächten .. geborgen“ was this last sign of life – given to her. Dietrich B. was in prisoned for his conspiracy against – this little austrian „Unter-Gefreiten“ adolph the nazi. He later was hanged for this. Maria v. Wedemeyer had not known one more thing about her Spose. She shared this love gift (that became a 'song') with the world. Also all their letters she later gave freely. All you, who share more intrest. Go and listen to all this. Read about backgrounds. D. Bonhoeffer hwo wrote that poem decended from Berlins leading clinical Psychiatrist familie. D. B. became verry early professor. and lead german church through our time of darkness.

Familie historie of mine is linked – to such brave people like Ruthalice v. Wedemeyer. I have known her for 20 y. She (is the sister and) was intrusted these letters to be edited. http://www.thalia.de/shop/home/suchartikel/brautbriefe_zelle_92/dietrich_bonhoeffer/EAN9783406685187/ID44377682.html?jumpId=13173658&suchId=4cb689a9-e4dc-4cca-854e-1935757a55d5    Brautbriefe-. Maria vW. then chose to go to Amerika. Worked for PC industries. How can you - with any understanding of your mind – come to an overall conclusion. Did you realy think she and others had not the giftings of credebilities... and all understanding of her times? Man she was smart, and with tough caracter.

Seehaber W. Maria von Wedemeyer. Bonhoeffers Verlobte. Lebensbild.    http://www.thalia.de/shop/home/suggestartikel/ID30793391.html?sswg=BUCH&sq=Maria%20von%20Wedemeyer%20-%20Bonhoeffers%20Verlobte may not have been translated. 

Edited March 1, 2016 by Melony

[FresnoJoe]

On 2/28/2016 at 2:11 PM, Goldenshark123 said:

Religion is simply an alternative
for those who can't understand science

Evolution Is Simply An Alternative

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Romans 1:18-20

Darwinism rejects all supernatural phenomena and causations.

A professor in the Department of Biology at Kansas State University says:

Even if all the data point to an intelligent designer, such a hypothesis is excluded from science because it is not naturalistic.

It is well known by almost everyone in the scientific world today that such influential evolutionists as Stephen Jay Gould and Edward Wilson of Harvard, Richard Dawkins of England, William Provine of Cornell, and numerous other evolutionary spokesmen are dogmatic atheists. Eminent scientific philosopher and ardent Darwinian atheist Michael Ruse has even acknowledged that evolution is their religion!

Evolution is promoted by its practitioners as more than mere science. Evolution is promulgated as an ideology, a secular religion -- a full-fledged alternative to Christianity, with meaning and morality . . . . Evolution is a religion. This was true of evolution in the beginning, and it is true of evolution still today.

Another way of saying "religion" is "worldview," the whole of reality. The evolutionary worldview applies not only to the evolution of life, but even to that of the entire universe. In the realm of cosmic evolution, our naturalistic scientists depart even further from experimental science than life scientists do, manufacturing a variety of evolutionary cosmologies from esoteric mathematics and metaphysical speculation. Socialist Jeremy Rifkin has commented on this remarkable game.

Cosmologies are made up of small snippets of physical reality that have been remodeled by society into vast cosmic deceptions.

They must believe in evolution, therefore, in spite of all the evidence, not because of it. And speaking of deceptions, note the following remarkable statement.

We take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, . . . in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated commitment to materialism. . . . we are forced by our a priori adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counterintuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated. Moreover, that materialism is absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door.

The author of this frank statement is Richard Lewontin of Harvard. Since evolution is not a laboratory science, there is no way to test its validity, so all sorts of justso stories are contrived to adorn the textbooks. But that doesn't make them true! An evolutionist reviewing a recent book by another (but more critical) evolutionist, says:

We cannot identify ancestors or "missing links," and we cannot devise testable theories to explain how particular episodes of evolution came about. Gee is adamant that all the popular stories about how the first amphibians conquered the dry land, how the birds developed wings and feathers for flying, how the dinosaurs went extinct, and how humans evolved from apes are just products of our imagination, driven by prejudices and preconceptions.

A fascinatingly honest admission by a physicist indicates the passionate commitment of establishment scientists to naturalism. Speaking of the trust students naturally place in their highly educated college professors, he says:

And I use that trust to effectively brainwash them. . . . our teaching methods are primarily those of propaganda. We appeal -- without demonstration -- to evidence that supports our position. We only introduce arguments and evidence that supports the currently accepted theories and omit or gloss over any evidence to the contrary. http://www.icr.org/home/resources/resources_tracts_scientificcaseagainstevolution/

For Those Who Can't Understand Science

Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Romans 1:21-23

Evolution Is Not Happening Now

First of all, the lack of a case for evolution is clear from the fact that no one has ever seen it happen. If it were a real process, evolution should still be occurring, and there should be many "transitional" forms that we could observe. What we see instead, of course, is an array of distinct "kinds" of plants and animals with many varieties within each kind, but with very clear and -- apparently -- unbridgeable gaps between the kinds. That is, for example, there are many varieties of dogs and many varieties of cats, but no "dats" or "cogs." Such variation is often called microevolution, and these minor horizontal (or downward) changes occur fairly often, but such changes are not true "vertical" evolution.

Evolutionary geneticists have often experimented on fruit flies and other rapidly reproducing species to induce mutational changes hoping they would lead to new and better species, but these have all failed to accomplish their goal. No truly new species has ever been produced, let alone a new "basic kind."

A current leading evolutionist, Jeffrey Schwartz, professor of anthropology at the University of Pittsburgh, has recently acknowledged that:

. . . it was and still is the case that, with the exception of Dobzhansky's claim about a new species of fruit fly, the formation of a new species, by any mechanism, has never been observed.

The scientific method traditionally has required experimental observation and replication. The fact that macroevolution (as distinct from microevolution) has never been observed would seem to exclude it from the domain of true science. Even Ernst Mayr, the dean of living evolutionists, longtime professor of biology at Harvard, who has alleged that evolution is a "simple fact," nevertheless agrees that it is an "historical science" for which "laws and experiments are inappropriate techniques" by which to explain it. One can never actually see evolution in action. http://www.icr.org/home/resources/resources_tracts_scientificcaseagainstevolution/

[Goldenshark123]

Evolution is not an alternative, it is fact