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I took the time to read every post. It was quite revealing to the weakness of the day!
So much energy is being placed in that which is passing away and very little it seems to
that which God 'IS' keeping forever... we have an overwhelming tendency to evaluate up
and to a certain point and stop due to the unsatisfying aspect of the flesh with a certain
topic...
                        case in point:
                                     The Spirit struggles against the flesh and flesh against the Spirirt.
                                      Why? This is the question that leads to a different desire all together,
                                      one of place and time, one of difference, one of creative response of
                                      all things new... the eternal state! For all who are in effort with the
                                      flesh to be holy fall short of the eternity that plans in God this
1 Cor 2:9-10
9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things
which God hath prepared for them that love him. 10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the
Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
KJV

 
                                      Satan is using a bait an switch on the church through the ever overwhelming
                                       influence of fleshly thought and action... simply the guidance of Spiritual
                                       things are not placed upon the meditations of here: dress, jewelry, hair,
                                       adornment, possession etc.
                                                                               -but-
                                       on the things God 'IS' keeping for eternity, that being, the S/spiritual construct
                                       of your born again newness entering into a place that is not here as yet but
                                       will be and a life patterned in personal obedience to The Holy Spirit of God
                                       finding rest even in this place of temporary~ learning how that place will be...
 
The finished thought of all this is do not place the energy of being into the things God is not keeping
all first born realities... allow for the second born nature to lead you into alien response to this place
ever building a faith of living as though we are already present with Him 
Col 3:1-4
3 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
2 Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth. 3 For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.
4 When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.
KJV
... reading the rest of Col 3 - you will see what I have written is so

-as is the obedience of all yielded hearts who see this world as passing away... imagine the leading
away from the worthless temporary into the everlasting of keeping where perfection has never been
in a law or form of law for that would be bounded by creative aspects and God has no such place for
Himself and us who have received that eternal breath by the work of The Son...
Love, Steven

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@Enoob, the outward is a reflection of the inward, so it does matter.

Your whole argument is already undone within the reasoning I posted!

note all things in this first creation will be completely different in

the second finished new heaven and earth... so much so that we have

nothing here that compares to there! Thus a good reasoning mind would

conclude that which ends is not the necessary of God Who can never end!

Butero I will state this plainly and you will take it as a personal

attack but I assure you it is not! You have found rest in law and that

is not the S/spiritual leading of God... Love, Steven


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Enoob, nothing you wrote in any way shape or form has undone what I said.  Jesus himself said that not one jot or one tittle shall be removed from the law till all be fulfilled, and that hasn't happened yet.

Butero if you think the law is still active in the church age then you

are not living in the grace but in the law and it is active only for judgement

which has come to all of first born natures... the book of Hebrews strickly

forbids this thinking... the law was only a tutor for those in need of salvation!

For the law cannot save but only condemn those with only one birth! Yet the law

was fulfilled in Christ:

Acts 13:39

Rom 3:20

Rom 7:5-11

Gal 3:21

Heb 7:18-19

Heb 10:1-10

Heb 10:14

 

We are told the preach the Word, and part of the Word has to do with outward appearance.   We are told to preach the whole counsel of the Word of God, not just part of it.  I don't see what you said as a personal attack.  Jesus said that those who preach and live by the least commandments will be great in his Kingdom.  Why be upset about someone accusing me of doing that.  I am a bit curious concerning one thing you said, because frankly, I find it disturbing in light of how I think you mean it. 

 

You said that I "have found rest in law."  What did you mean by, "and that is not the S/spiritual leading of God."  What do you consider the "S/spiritual leading of God?"  Is it personal revelation?  Is it the thoughts that come to your head?  If it is not based on the Bible, what it is based on?

The reasoning of God in Scripture is one of context any thing taken from the context

can be supplanted with any perversion of thought... we must with diligence rightly

divide the Word of God so that It's precepts are It's precepts! God writes His perfect

Law of Liberty upon the hearts of the second born children of eternity so that it is

no longer a do to get (fist born lies) but simply the only choice of the unbounded

nature of God Himself as essence of the only 'IS' of eternity... the reasoning of

Scripture is often left out by clinging to the created instance yet knowing that God

has an eternity of existence before He ever created and in that eternity there is no

law... only when sin entered through satan did law become necessary to reveal that

nature of sin! That revealing could not save but only condemn and in that condemnation

we all have began but the heart of God one of 'not willing any should perish' thus in

the fullness of time when all under sin Christ came in the fullness of Jesus to seek

and to save that which was lost.

 

I am adding this comment.  Based on your view that we shouldn't be concerned with anything but that which pertains directly to the next life, how do you follow that in regard to marriage?  In this life, we marry and are given in marriage, but those who are found worthy to attain the next life will be as the angels.  Does that mean we don't need to concern ourselves with laws regarding marriage, like not committing adultery?  There are many things that we deal with today that won't matter in the next life, so how far do we take this, and what is this standard based on?  Is it personal revelation and what you call "spiritual leading of God?"

Much is dealt with as to marriage

1 Cor 7:34-35

34 There is difference also between a wife and a virgin. The unmarried woman careth

for the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and in spirit: but she

that is married careth for the things of the world, how she may please her husband.

35 And this I speak for your own profit; not that I may cast a snare upon you, but

for that which is comely, and that ye may attend upon the Lord without distraction.

KJV

this distraction is and will be one of personal sacrifice for the things of The Lord

and the work here for His Glory...

By this comment I will ask you to tell in your own heart what God means here

Mark 4:18-19

18 And these are they which are sown among thorns; such as hear the word,

19 And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the

lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful.

KJV

This is not rocket science... let go of that which God is not keeping and desperately

cling to that which He 'IS'!

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2.  Wearing clothes pertaining to the opposite sex.  Women can wear anything from clothing right out of the men's department of the store to a dress.  Men on the other hand are openly attacked by Christian women's groups and nearly everyone if they were to wear a dress.  I see women here talking about being a jeans and t-shirt type of girl.  How would people react to a man who said he is personally a cocktail dress type of guy? 

 

 

 

 

 

I would think I was talking to Bruce Jenner. 


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2.  Wearing clothes pertaining to the opposite sex.  Women can wear anything from clothing right out of the men's department of the store to a dress.  Men on the other hand are openly attacked by Christian women's groups and nearly everyone if they were to wear a dress.  I see women here talking about being a jeans and t-shirt type of girl.  How would people react to a man who said he is personally a cocktail dress type of guy? 

 

 

 

 

 

I would think I was talking to Bruce Jenner. 

 

 

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I found it rather interesting in light of the scripture being used in the OP pertaing to a woman's manner of dress or dress code in 1 Timothy 2:9...

But the very verse above that verse says this pertaing to the men...

1 Timothy 2:8 - I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting.

Now I have to say this behavior I do not see in the men folks on an ongoing outward manifestation of their inward man. I have however been in restarants where I would see a man bow their heads and pray over their meal before they ate. But that is a rare scence in public places. I noticed that this wasn't only to be done by the men of faith in church worship service either. The men are suppose to be men of prayer in any public place they are at. Not ashamed to raise and lift up their holy hands the men are to be men of faith in their outward behaviour with these traits or character about them. As the prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

As a man how well do you match up to the point of this afore mentionen behaviour of the men of faith actually being SEEN outwardly in this verse of scripture. I know personally I don't see it being displayed and when I do it's rare except maybe in a church worship service but it ends there for the most part. Or perhaps at a family gathering one of the men folks will be called on to pray before the family partakes of the meal.

I could question and start saying because of this verse that I happened to notice. That there are no men of faith around, as basically was what was being done concerning the dress code in how a lady should dress that was brought forth in the OP toward the women folks. I could start saying there are no woman of faith because they aren't practicing a certain dress code. But it would be a lie to believe such a thing from all across the board for the women or men of faith. Because there are true women and men of faith on this earth today. Even and despite the fact that one may sit in judgment and condemnation of others within their own eyes.


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I found it rather odd in fact that when I read through some of the newly added post to this thread. That the emphasis of a "Christian" man is always on sex or lust towards a woman. Even in one place I noticed it was said even if a woman had on a moo moo he would lust after the women. I would say such a man whose thoughts are only on sex or lusting looking at the boobs (which in America the boobs are glorified and practically and idol among the men folk) then I would think such people have not put on the the mind of Christ if lust is all one see's whenever they look at women.

Sure if the natural attraction between a man and woman did not go on the human race would cease to exist as taught in the 1 Corinthian chapter concerning hair length. But there is something defianantely wrong when a Christian man I might add only looks at a woman in the face of lust and not the woman herself or the kind of person she is within.

Thing is men and women in this life are drawn to each other naturally. God's natural order that comes natural to all doesn't have to be based on sinful thoughts within our hearts that leads to fornication, (sex outside of marriage) adultery, children being born out of wedlock, abortions, committing adultery in heart because the sin is in their hearts to do. Looking at a woman only in terms of something sexual I can see can be an embarrassment to a Christian lady and contribute to her manner of dress in which she chooses for herself.

I certainly wouldn't want to only be viewed as a sexual object of lust. I think the woman especially the Christian women amoung us deserve the rightful respect of being looked at from her heart her true person instead. Just as I think the men folk especially the Christian men should have the same respect not for their money, type of car they drive, carrers, ego's, ambition in life, nor their bodies that they have. But instead looked at for the person they truly are from within as we have been made new creatures in Christ. It seems rather that somehow our minds are in the ditch from what I've read.

It's better to deal with one's own sin of lust and repent forsaking the sin of lust inside one's "OWN" heart. Than to let it grow and fester and blame other people for the lustful sins they have tucked away in the darkness of their own hearts. I got enough sense to know logical I myself can't blame another person in this life for any sin I may have within my own heart lurking. That want work because the sins of my heart will still remain and they needs to be removed through personal repentance and godly sorrow.


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The person that said in this thread that such sins as murder and theft are not talked about on WB has to be somewhat blind. Was not the deaths of the nine in SC just recent talked about.

Different subjects are discussed in different manners and circumstances. Maybe starting up some new threads on your part dealing with the subjects of murder and thefts would benefit saving the murderers and theives living among as well with the same passion and emphasis you put toward saving sinful women not dressing as you think they should. Nothing like being an example among the flock of God. Yes there are thieves and murderers that could be sitting right beside you in a church service or whom you will brush shoulders with in this life. Something for your to ponder.


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Popcorn and soda pop please? Lol interesting..

Yes I'll take a large diet pepsi all this popcorn is making me thirsty.

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