Pets, Idolatry, and our current state of affairs.

[thereselittleflower]

 

 

I can't disagree with anything you said, Patriot. I dearly love my pets and do my best for them but I would never elevate them above humans.  That IS a form of idolatry for sure.  It's a constant problem for me because I have a close friend who never wanted kids but pets instead.  She has 16 cats and 5 dogs at last count.  We have talked about what will happen to her pets if the Rapture comes.  She is angry at God because she doesn't think it's fair that this life is all they get and they won't be going with her.  I'm at a loss as to how to explain to her that animals don't have souls because that's the way God created them and He is never wrong (believe me I have tried).  She seriously does idolize her pets and it worries me because she is a very close and dear friend and I care what happens to her. 

When the rapture comes pets will not go.

 

 

Nope.  My friend rails against this and it's upsetting to hear her question God's motives.  She is angry at Him. 

 

 

This is very hard for children.

[MorningGlory]

 

 

 

I can't disagree with anything you said, Patriot. I dearly love my pets and do my best for them but I would never elevate them above humans.  That IS a form of idolatry for sure.  It's a constant problem for me because I have a close friend who never wanted kids but pets instead.  She has 16 cats and 5 dogs at last count.  We have talked about what will happen to her pets if the Rapture comes.  She is angry at God because she doesn't think it's fair that this life is all they get and they won't be going with her.  I'm at a loss as to how to explain to her that animals don't have souls because that's the way God created them and He is never wrong (believe me I have tried).  She seriously does idolize her pets and it worries me because she is a very close and dear friend and I care what happens to her. 

When the rapture comes pets will not go.

 

 

Nope.  My friend rails against this and it's upsetting to hear her question God's motives.  She is angry at Him. 

 

 

This is very hard for children.

 

 

Yes, it IS hard for children because they don't understand.  But my friend is over 50 and it's really hard to hear her talk about her anger towards God.  I'm not really sure I can do anything besides what I've already done though.

[missmuffet]

 

 

 

 

I can't disagree with anything you said, Patriot. I dearly love my pets and do my best for them but I would never elevate them above humans.  That IS a form of idolatry for sure.  It's a constant problem for me because I have a close friend who never wanted kids but pets instead.  She has 16 cats and 5 dogs at last count.  We have talked about what will happen to her pets if the Rapture comes.  She is angry at God because she doesn't think it's fair that this life is all they get and they won't be going with her.  I'm at a loss as to how to explain to her that animals don't have souls because that's the way God created them and He is never wrong (believe me I have tried).  She seriously does idolize her pets and it worries me because she is a very close and dear friend and I care what happens to her. 

When the rapture comes pets will not go.

 

 

Nope.  My friend rails against this and it's upsetting to hear her question God's motives.  She is angry at Him. 

 

 

This is very hard for children.

 

 

Yes, it IS hard for children because they don't understand.  But my friend is over 50 and it's really hard to hear her talk about her anger towards God.  I'm not really sure I can do anything besides what I've already done though.

 

Her anger reflexes that her faith is very weak.

[ayin jade]

 

 

I am equally concerned.   I also think pets are seen as a substitute for children they did not want to have, and there is something deep within them telling them they are wrong on the issue of children and abortion, but they refuse to face it and it must have an outlet somewhere, so their affection is transferred to pets to such a great degree, that the pets become the children their conscience convicts them about.

 

 

 

Wow that is just so .... harsh and judgmental.

[MorningGlory]

 

 

 

 

 

I can't disagree with anything you said, Patriot. I dearly love my pets and do my best for them but I would never elevate them above humans.  That IS a form of idolatry for sure.  It's a constant problem for me because I have a close friend who never wanted kids but pets instead.  She has 16 cats and 5 dogs at last count.  We have talked about what will happen to her pets if the Rapture comes.  She is angry at God because she doesn't think it's fair that this life is all they get and they won't be going with her.  I'm at a loss as to how to explain to her that animals don't have souls because that's the way God created them and He is never wrong (believe me I have tried).  She seriously does idolize her pets and it worries me because she is a very close and dear friend and I care what happens to her. 

When the rapture comes pets will not go.

 

 

Nope.  My friend rails against this and it's upsetting to hear her question God's motives.  She is angry at Him. 

 

 

This is very hard for children.

 

 

Yes, it IS hard for children because they don't understand.  But my friend is over 50 and it's really hard to hear her talk about her anger towards God.  I'm not really sure I can do anything besides what I've already done though.

 

Her anger reflexes that her faith is very wea]

 

 

That may be so but she is a believer and has been her entire life.  Her comments are shocking to me because God doesn't look on stuff like that kindly.  She even told me once that she didn't know why God didn't destroy the entire world since people are so evil.  I'm at a loss. 

[ayin jade]

Pray for her, that she has a road to damascus moment. However paul, for all his error, was at least aiming to please God. She is not. 

[missmuffet]

 

 

 

 

 

 

I can't disagree with anything you said, Patriot. I dearly love my pets and do my best for them but I would never elevate them above humans.  That IS a form of idolatry for sure.  It's a constant problem for me because I have a close friend who never wanted kids but pets instead.  She has 16 cats and 5 dogs at last count.  We have talked about what will happen to her pets if the Rapture comes.  She is angry at God because she doesn't think it's fair that this life is all they get and they won't be going with her.  I'm at a loss as to how to explain to her that animals don't have souls because that's the way God created them and He is never wrong (believe me I have tried).  She seriously does idolize her pets and it worries me because she is a very close and dear friend and I care what happens to her. 

When the rapture comes pets will not go.

 

 

Nope.  My friend rails against this and it's upsetting to hear her question God's motives.  She is angry at Him. 

 

 

This is very hard for children.

 

 

Yes, it IS hard for children because they don't understand.  But my friend is over 50 and it's really hard to hear her talk about her anger towards God.  I'm not really sure I can do anything besides what I've already done though.

 

Her anger reflexes that her faith is very wea]

 

 

That may be so but she is a believer and has been her entire life.  Her comments are shocking to me because God doesn't look on stuff like that kindly.  She even told me once that she didn't know why God didn't destroy the entire world since people are so evil.  I'm at a loss. 

 

I have known many who say they are a believer and some of the things they say and do have shocked me.

[ricky]

While  am generally pro animal welfare.  I agree with him somewhat on how people elevate animals to the same level as humans. I am involved with some Facebook groups that deal with animal welfare issues, and I am shocked at some of the extreme language used in these groups, "murder" is a term used often, if an animal is killed. I disagree with cruelty very much but some people some the activism too far. 

[thereselittleflower]

 

 

 

I am equally concerned.   I also think pets are seen as a substitute for children they did not want to have, and there is something deep within them telling them they are wrong on the issue of children and abortion, but they refuse to face it and it must have an outlet somewhere, so their affection is transferred to pets to such a great degree, that the pets become the children their conscience convicts them about.

 

 

 

Wow that is just so .... harsh and judgmental.

 

 

 

I'm confused.  I thought we were talking about people who went to extremes.    I've encountered many who would send support for animals and never send support for starving children.     I also had added to my post before you responded.   I hope you simply misunderstood me.

[Deborah_]

I'm not especially sentimental about animals, I hope (although we do have two cats who rule the roost in our house). Human beings are always more important.

 

I agree that some people go to extremes - all the good things that God gives us can be turned into idols.

 

I'm not so sure about there being 'no pets in heaven'. I believe that they will share eternity with us - not because they 'have souls' but because they are part of the creation that will be renewed.

https://deborahsbiblestudies.wordpress.com/2015/02/14/do-our-pets-go-to-heaven/