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[hmbld]

No confusion can be proved. That is speculation. 

[thereselittleflower]

No confusion can be proved. That is speculation. 

 

God makes clear in His response to Adam that it was to Adam He gave the command to.     It would have been then Adam's responsibility as head of all creation to explain it to Eve.  Did Adam explain it wrong?  Or did Eve understand it wrong?  Did she seek to make it more than it was because of the dire consequences of eating the fruit from that forbidden tree?  We don't know.

All we know is the command as given by God TO ADAM,  Eve's representation of it which added something the scriptures do not tell  us God said to Adam, and God reaffirming to whom He gave the command - to Adam, which would leave it at what scriptures tell us God said to Adam in the first place.

If people want to be resistant to understanding how one can be deceived by satan because they misunderstand what God has said, there is nothing I or anyone else can do about that.

Edited October 4, 2015 by thereselittleflower

[Guest Teditis]

No... Confusion is implied as Eve gave Satan a foothold to deceive her. She knew the truth and Satan turned it into a philosophy debate.

[hmbld]

Again, Eve admitted she knew God said not to eat it. She willfully sinned. You are free to write your own novel but you can't change the bible. 

[thereselittleflower]

Again, Eve admitted she knew God said not to eat it. She willfully sinned. You are free to write your own novel but you can't change the bible. 

We will have to agree to disagree.

Bless you hmbld.

 

[AllTheGoodNamesAreTaken]

No confusion can be proved. That is speculation. 

 

God makes clear in His response to Adam that it was to Adam He gave the command to.     It would have been then Adam's responsibility as head of all creation to explain it to Eve.  Did Adam explain it wrong?  Or did Eve understand it wrong?  Did she seek to make it more than it was because of the dire consequences of eating the fruit from that forbidden tree?  We don't know.

All we know is the command as given by God TO ADAM,  Eve's representation of it which added something the scriptures do not tell  us God said to Adam, and God reaffirming to whom He gave the command - to Adam, which would leave it at what scriptures tell us God said to Adam in the first place.

If people want to be resistant to understanding how one can be deceived by satan because they misunderstand what God has said, there is nothing I or anyone else can do about that.

Apparently, they both got it wrong by making the decision to disobey their authority .

[thereselittleflower]

No confusion can be proved. That is speculation. 

 

God makes clear in His response to Adam that it was to Adam He gave the command to.     It would have been then Adam's responsibility as head of all creation to explain it to Eve.  Did Adam explain it wrong?  Or did Eve understand it wrong?  Did she seek to make it more than it was because of the dire consequences of eating the fruit from that forbidden tree?  We don't know.

All we know is the command as given by God TO ADAM,  Eve's representation of it which added something the scriptures do not tell  us God said to Adam, and God reaffirming to whom He gave the command - to Adam, which would leave it at what scriptures tell us God said to Adam in the first place.

If people want to be resistant to understanding how one can be deceived by satan because they misunderstand what God has said, there is nothing I or anyone else can do about that.

Apparently, they both got it wrong by making the decision to disobey their authority .

Well yes they both behaved wrong which is why the human race is fallen.

But both did not equally behave wrong.

The greater fault was Adam's.

The scriptures do not treat all sins as of equal weight.   In the New Testament, we are told this:

1 John 5

16If anyone sees his brother committing a sin not leading to death, he shall ask and God will for him give life to those who commit sin not leading to death. There is a sin leading to death; I do not say that he should make request for this. 

 

 

 

Edited October 4, 2015 by thereselittleflower

[hmbld]

No confusion can be proved. That is speculation. 

 

God makes clear in His response to Adam that it was to Adam He gave the command to.     It would have been then Adam's responsibility as head of all creation to explain it to Eve.  Did Adam explain it wrong?  Or did Eve understand it wrong?  Did she seek to make it more than it was because of the dire consequences of eating the fruit from that forbidden tree?  We don't know.

All we know is the command as given by God TO ADAM,  Eve's representation of it which added something the scriptures do not tell  us God said to Adam, and God reaffirming to whom He gave the command - to Adam, which would leave it at what scriptures tell us God said to Adam in the first place.

If people want to be resistant to understanding how one can be deceived by satan because they misunderstand what God has said, there is nothing I or anyone else can do about that.

Apparently, they both got it wrong by making the decision to disobey their authority .

Well yes they both behaved wrong which is why the human race is fallen.

But both did not equally behave wrong.

The greater fault was Adam's.

The scriptures do not treat all sins as of equal weight.   In the New Testament, we are told this:

1 John 5

16If anyone sees his brother committing a sin not leading to death, he shall ask and God will for him give life to those who commit sin not leading to death. There is a sin leading to death; I do not say that he should make request for this. 

 

 

 

and with that change of direction I'll leave this conversation. God bless

[Openly Curious]

on 10/2/2015, 6:12:30, thereselittleflower said:

Actually shiloh and Davida first, before he began his lying he told her the truth.

Let me explain,  Here is what happened first before satan started to weave in his lie.  First he told the truth:

Gen 3

(1)  Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the animals the Lord God had made.  He said to the woman,  "Did God really say,  'You must not eat of any of the trees in the garden."

I do not believe from the scriptures as you have stated above that Satan told Eve the truth at the first.  But instead scriptures show us that Satan did in fact start to lie and trick Eve at the very start of the conversation.   Right off the bat Satan said to Eve,  "Did God "really" say, 'You must not eat of ANY of the trees in the garden."  Right there is the lie from the start as Satan knew from the start that the only "single" tree in the garden they couldn't take fruit from was the forbidden tree of the knowledge of good and evil they could eat from all other trees except one.  But Satan makes out like God really will not let her eat from any and all of the trees in the garden that God is keeping good fruit from her to eat which was a lie.  Do you see the trickery and deception from the start as Satan did not say the truth to Eve at the beginning?

Notice she "ADDED"  and you must not touch it"

God never said they must not touch it

 This is a stretch and a big one at that because you can't eay any thing if you don't touch it first.  To eat the fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil they had to take the fruit literally off the tree with their hands therefore touching the forbidden fruit.  Eve was not adding nothing except for logic to what God had said as she knew clearly and forth rightly what God told her and Adam.  Eve couldn't have eaten the fruit unless she took her hands and touched the fruit thus pulling it from the tree.  Eve knew if she took the forbidden fruit from the tree of good and evil and ate it she would surely die.  Adam and Eve were not to take or gather the fruit of the tree of good and evil and use it for food to eat for it was forbidden.  

[AllTheGoodNamesAreTaken]

I think I have said all I can as well. I hope I haven't misrepresented God's Word in anyway. If I have, I am cursed, and will accept His righteous judgement. Peace to you all.