144,000 are first fruits?

[angels4u]

14 minutes ago, When Is Jesus Coming? said:

We are all Jewish, so the 144,000 are spiritually of Israel, as in grafted in, so the 144,000 are actually Christians. Just watch this and you will understand:  

 

 

You're  not talking replacement theory?

Do you believe that the church replaced Israel?

[OneLight]

3 minutes ago, When Is Jesus Coming? said:

We are all Jewish, so the 144,000 are spiritually of Israel, as in grafted in, so the 144,000 are actually Christians. Just watch this and you will understand:  

 

That is a false teaching, no matter how convincing one makes it.  God speak of the 12 Tribes of Israel, not the Church.  We are grafted into Jesus, not into Israel.

Revelation 7:4-8

And I heard the number of those who were sealed. One hundred and forty-four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel were sealed:

of the tribe of Judah twelve thousand were sealed;[a]
of the tribe of Reuben twelve thousand were sealed;
of the tribe of Gad twelve thousand were sealed;
of the tribe of Asher twelve thousand were sealed;
of the tribe of Naphtali twelve thousand were sealed;
of the tribe of Manasseh twelve thousand were sealed;
of the tribe of Simeon twelve thousand were sealed;
of the tribe of Levi twelve thousand were sealed;
of the tribe of Issachar twelve thousand were sealed;
of the tribe of Zebulun twelve thousand were sealed;
of the tribe of Joseph twelve thousand were sealed;
of the tribe of Benjamin twelve thousand were sealed.

They are virgin men of the true tribe, not grafted in, but His chosen people.

Revelation 12:4a

These are the ones who were not defiled with women, for they are virgins.

Bring grafted into the vine or olive tree does not make us Jewish or from the tribes of Israel, but partakes of what was meant for the Jewish people due to our faith in Christ.  We do not replace or become a Hebrew.  We are His in Him.  Israel is not forgotten and His covenant with them still stands.

[When Is Jesus Coming?]

Buddhists go to Hell

Sihks go to Hell  

Agnostics go to Hell

Hindus go to Hell 

Atheists go to Hell

Muslims go to hell

Jews go to Hell

Christians go to Heaven 

 

[OneLight]

Just now, When Is Jesus Coming? said:

Buddhists go to Hell

Sihks go to Hell  

Agnostics go to Hell

Hindus go to Hell 

Atheists go to Hell

Muslims go to hell

Jews go to Hell

Christians go to Heaven 

 

No need to list every faith or culture.  All who reject Christ go to hell, but that still does not mean that the church replaces Israel.

[When Is Jesus Coming?]

The 144,000 are all Christians who reign with Christ. They are not Jews as all Jews will go to Hell. 

[Radiant_Owl]

On 10/19/2015 at 6:42 PM, Pamelasv said:

Read Revelation 14:1-5

It says this 144,000 from Isreal (cross reference is Rev 7:4 ).  Are first fruits.  What does signify to you?  

12X12=

[Radiant_Owl]

Judaism & Numbers

The Jewish numerology tradition, known as gematria, values some numbers more than others.

By Rabbi Geoffrey Dennis

[Radiant_Owl]

34 minutes ago, When Is Jesus Coming? said:

The 144,000 are all Christians who reign with Christ. They are not Jews as all Jews will go to Hell. 

That's quite a bold statement.

[angels4u]

Just now, Radiant_Owl said:

That's quite a bold statement.

It's a terrible thing to say... as it is not true..

[angels4u]

47 minutes ago, OneLight said:

That is a false teaching, no matter how convincing one makes it.  God speak of the 12 Tribes of Israel, not the Church.  We are grafted into Jesus, not into Israel.

Revelation 7:4-8

And I heard the number of those who were sealed. One hundred and forty-four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel were sealed:

of the tribe of Judah twelve thousand were sealed;[a]
of the tribe of Reuben twelve thousand were sealed;
of the tribe of Gad twelve thousand were sealed;
of the tribe of Asher twelve thousand were sealed;
of the tribe of Naphtali twelve thousand were sealed;
of the tribe of Manasseh twelve thousand were sealed;
of the tribe of Simeon twelve thousand were sealed;
of the tribe of Levi twelve thousand were sealed;
of the tribe of Issachar twelve thousand were sealed;
of the tribe of Zebulun twelve thousand were sealed;
of the tribe of Joseph twelve thousand were sealed;
of the tribe of Benjamin twelve thousand were sealed.

They are virgin men of the true tribe, not grafted in, but His chosen people.

Revelation 12:4a

These are the ones who were not defiled with women, for they are virgins.

Bring grafted into the vine or olive tree does not make us Jewish or from the tribes of Israel, but partakes of what was meant for the Jewish people due to our faith in Christ.  We do not replace or become a Hebrew.  We are His in Him.  Israel is not forgotten and His covenant with them still stands.

 

Amen, the Bible is pretty clear of who the 12 tribes are, I was going to post them too but forgot  to paste it