Speaking in tongues is that ,real or alive today ?

[PatrolMan]

No. It's a false teaching. What was spoken by the Apostles  in the bible were true languages. Each one heard in his own language or tongue.

[Ezra]

1 hour ago, Bluebird said:

Why do people keep insisting that Tongues is a false teaching?

There are several reasons:

1. Pentecostals teach that tongues are an evidence of the baptism of the Holy Spirit.  Actually Scripture speaks about the baptism with the Holy Spirit, and every person who receives the gift of the Holy Ghost is baptized thereby (Acts 2:38).  The Holy Spirit is poured out upon the believer (Tit 3:5,6).

2. The Bible makes it clear that not all will speak in tongues (1 Cor 12:30), but all can be filled with the Spirit (Acts 4:31). 

3. Modern tongues are not genuine human languages but babbling (glossolalia). Scripture makes it clear that tongues were distinct human languages (glossais). The words "languages" and "tongues" are used interchangeably in the KJV, and the latter is now archaic for languages.

4. Tongues were a sign gift (1 Cor 14:22) to convince unbelieving Jews about the Divine origin of the Gospel when the New Testament had not come into existence. Now we have the Word of God, and faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God (Rom 10:17).

5. Paul clearly tells us that tongues would cease (1 Cor 13:8) and cease they did.  After the apostolic period tongues died out until the 19th century.  (The Montanists -- a heretical group -- were the exception).

If you have spoken in tongues privately, no one will dispute that because it is between you and God.  But there are very specific instructions as to how genuine tongues must be used within the local assembly.

[coheir]

36 minutes ago, Bluebird said:

Well and good, but to just toss off a casual rejection of a very genuine expression is bound to do more harm than good. Better to explain calmly where a problem is and where it is not than risk destroying someone's faith. I cringe to imagine running headlong into someone with extremist views trying to convince me that what happened the first time I tried to connect with Jesus Christ was something false. At the point I was at when I accepted the Lord I was very fragile. In fact, 5 years earlier I tried to connect with Jesus Christ in a time of great crisis. I ran headlong into the kind of destructive religious falseness that drives so many away from church and got into a LOT of trouble because of being lost, confused and turned off from Christianity.

 

Too much theological theorizing has done much harm to many people, and the reputation of Christianity is suffering along with any hope of revival...

 

 Do you believe one should follow this verse

1 Corinthians 14:28
But if there is no interpreter, he should remain silent in the church and speak only to himself and God.

[coheir]

12 minutes ago, Bluebird said:

Yes, actually I do. My first encounter with Jesus Christ was through a Pentecostal church; as I said earlier, I was only 17. That church was the type that was heavy into the running around the sanctuary, speaking in Tongues at something that might be called random, etc. I will give some people I knew there deep credit for good teaching, like "Walking In The Holy Spirit" and reading deeply in the Epistles of the Bible, but in many ways, they were badly mistaken. I don't speak in Tongues to "prove" anything, nor do I expect it of anyone. The man who led me to Christ in 2003 never has done that and never will, and neither does my own husband, again never has and never will. This is part of why this issue being so hotly debated really bothers me. Jesus Christ bestows these Gifts -- or doesn't -- for reasons. It is critical that we first respect, and also seek what His reasons are. Most importantly, we should be seeking to free unbeleivers and growing Christians from the lies, deceptions and pain that hinders us in our lives and in our walk with the Lord. The Gifts of the Holy Spirit are intended to assist with that precious work, nothing more and nothing less.

I must say I agree with your post. you say you use tongues, gifted to you by God, in private. Then you have no need for an interpreter.

I think God can still bestow any gift he pleases today as he did in the past. One thing you said in an earlier post was you spoke in tongues at 17. And also said you left Christianity for some 20 years. then came back and still have the tongues. I am not able to under stand how one can have this tongues;turn away and come back and it is bestowed again.???????????????????????

[Dennis1209]

In part, my personal belief is the 'gift' of speaking in tongues was given at Pentecost. I believe our modern English equivalent to 'tongues' is languages. The Apostles were given a special supernatural gift to communicate the Gospel to the unsaved in their native languages. Much like it is today with pastor's and missionaries throughout the world, sharing the Gospel in their native tongues, and Bibles printed in their own languages. I think this was the main reason for the gift of speaking in tongues, and 'in general' this gift ended with the Apostles.

How do you communicate the Gospel and the Bible to the unsaved if you don't understand each other? 

I ask this... If the supernatural gift of speaking in tongues is still in effect today, why do pastors and missionaries in foreign countries have to manually learn the native language to communicate the Gospel to the unsaved? Why does the Bible need to be printed in their native languages? Why is the gift of speaking in tongues isolated mainly to churches instead of putting it to practical use preaching the Gospel to those that need it?

Maybe I'm off key and don't understand, but if I attended a church service where whomever, was speaking in 'tongues', I wouldn't be able to understand it, would you? What purpose would it serve if no one understands what is being said? Or am I missing something here?

 

[enoob57]

The whole of communication of God is through the understanding Gen 1:1 - Rev 22 end... Written down and objectively reasoned in the hermeneutic of written material so that the mind can reason with God in the work He has left us here to do! The structure of the present day 'tongues practiced' is not of understanding and with no interpreter leaving the listener with no way to examine the source of the phenomenon with the written manual God has given us to verify all things whether of God or of satan...  suspect in the very capsule it comes yes! Seeing how it is God whose has given us the Word to be communicated to the understanding so that people are without excuse. The flesh is the driver for satan to maintain control over us who are born in the s/Spirit and we are at war in this >yet< as the testimony to all who practice tongues with no understanding they say it feels and that is all they can say elevating the emotion above the understanding and that is a perversion of the order God has clearly set forth in His Word... the passion for, the demand of, desiring in utmost etc... this activity will glean an accounting with God as Paul has in Word stated here

1 Corinthians 14:14 (KJV)

[14] For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful.

[15] What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also.

[16] Else when thou shalt bless with the spirit, how shall he that occupieth the room of the unlearned say Amen at thy giving of thanks, seeing he understandeth not what thou sayest?

[17] For thou verily givest thanks well, but the other is not edified.

[18] I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all:

[19] Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue.

If this does not cause the children to reconsider this event then this

Matthew 12:36 (KJV)

[36] But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.

[37] For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
God having taught us through our understanding; how shall we give an account for that which is not of our understanding? Leaving the only response possible ->I practiced that which I cannot given an account for by Thy Word Lord!

 Love, Steven

[ravindran]

On 11/14/2015 at 1:21 AM, SINNERSAVED said:

I have been a Christian a very long time over thirty years, but never heard anyone speak in tongues,

and many well known Christians say it is still current in todays world, and I know they say you need a interpreter ,if you do speak it.

but the question is ?, does  speaking in tongues really exist ,?or was it  a actual language that was spoke in long ago at Pentecost in native form for all the different people,to understand in there own,the word of God so they could tell there people  and share the gospel?

does anyone here at worthy speak in tongues,? where does it come from ,and what is its purpose,?

I don't know anything about it ,but what I read in the bible,  and yes, this is a legit question ?

I think tongues are for today also. However, it is not the only sign of a person being filled with Holy Spirit. That is where I disagree with typical charismatic theology. I think many Pentecostals believe tongues are just one of the gifts and not "the sign" of baptism of Holy Spirit.

Tongues should be sought as any other gift of Holy Spirit. I have seen many believers who speak in tongues, but lack spiritual discernment. And many believers who have wonderful teaching gifts but do not speak in tongues. I should admit it. I have never personally encountered anyone who have spoken in other languages which they themselves do not know. During Pentecost that exactly happened

[RustyAngeL]

On 11/14/2015 at 0:37 PM, Littlelambseativy said:

If it is genuine and of the Holy Spirit and it is still for today. However, I have heard of some who "practice" speaking in tongues...that is not of God. When we accept Jesus as our Lord we are filled or indwelled by the Holy Spirit and do not all speak in tongues...that is one of the "gift"  when we become Christians.

Practice?  Really.  It has to be real and Holy Spirit led.  And yes there some ground rules, so to speak.  Your right it's just one of the gifts He gives us.

[coheir]

4 hours ago, Bluebird said:

First, during the time I was backslidden, I guess would be the term, I did not speak In Tongues. I went from discouraged to deeply hardened against Christianity. It wasn't the Bible I had a problem with, it was the people. I could count on one hand the sincere Christians I had ever met, but it was the half-hearted people and the outright compromised famous "leaders" convinced me that Christians couldn't possibly know the truth about who or what God really is because if they did, they would treat Him with far more respect.

 

As to the Gift of Tongues. Something real happened in 1978, something so real that I couldn't ever completely rule out Jesus Christ as being somehow genuine. I could deny quite a bit, but I could never deny that I had not faked it speaking in Tongues. Since I repented, the Gift has meant something different. I don't fake it, and I have nothing to prove. I also don't care to go into detail, but the Holy Spirit has used it to affirm to me His presence in my spirit at key times when I needed reassurance and encouragement. This is one reason why I say these Gifts are not to be taken lightly, not to be used to prove some point of ego-pride in the individual, not to be used to put on a show. I got into a LOT of trouble in the 5 years between 1998 and 2003. I got played by casual Christians in half hearted churches and turned to Paganism for answers... When I finally surrendered to Christ, those 5 years were a source of deep grief, because the whole mess could have been avoided. In fact, the over 20 years I was fallen, the prime of my life was utterly wasted because the church that led me to Christ the first time could not find a way to help me got on my feet as an adult pointed in a direction that might have glorified Jesus Christ. I may have been only 17, but I was deeply sincere about wanting to leave the madness of the streets behind and become a decent person, and I was fully willing to do so as a Christian. The church didn't seem to think that was very important. They seemed to think there were plenty more people for them to choose from.

Jesus Christ didn't see it that way. He deemed me worth forgiving, worth chasing down, worth Saving. All that left me with a very loaded question:

What Then Are These Gifts (of The Holy Spirit)?

Thanks Bluebird for the sincere reply. I too have had almost same experience with a couple churches. I am glad you came back Amen.

I  was saved at 20 and left the Christian life a little over 20 years then came back.

[Flsnookman]

I may be wrong but doesn't the Bible refer to two types of tongues? One where the Holy Spirit interprits "groanings" and one where people speaking different languages can understand each other? I will try and find the verses.

 

Mark 16:17 - And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

Romans 8:26  Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered

Edited October 12, 2016 by Flsnookman