Bible flaws, in interpretation of Gods true word ?

[SINNERSAVED]

Hello ,Brothers and Sisters, I came across, what I find a stumbling block for many ,and me ,for as we know,

in truth of Gods word we believe that the bible is the whole word and truth of Gods inspired word ,for us to learn and teach and use as our guideline and ,to live a Godly life, we all agree with that,

But our Book of life, depending on the bible you are using, even the original King James version , from the niv, and others , we see that there is flaws in the interpretation of some words , which, has been used that are not adequate to the scripture and its body for reference and use of  a few words,

there is also missing scripture verses with in some of the NIV, and just the verse number, are there,  so I know for a fact ,that many are deceived by how we read and translate the scriptures to know Gods word, by the words used to describe key words , that makes all the difference in the world , in understanding  what we need to understand,

So because this is a obstical, we need to check it out, like the word hell, is in place of three other meanings , also like in the KJV, its states Giants, and in the NIV it says nephilims

so this brings us to learn the true meanings of words being translated to English, that could ,cause big problems when teaching or understanding what we need to learn

I still believe the bible to be Gods awesome ,and powerful words from him, and will not deny it, but we have to watch the few words ,that make all the difference in the world, so if there is any other words that are different or translated different meanings , please write them, down that would be great  and thank you all ,for your support and responses. 

[Littlelambseativy]

When it comes to translating from one language to another there are times when the nuance of the original is difficult translate into English or any other language. If you speak a different language, there will be a word used that may take a lengthy explanation and yet the full meaning is lost. However, the essence may be there. That is an issue but God has through men who have done the translating kept the essence of His word in the different translations.It is His Word. I agree that in cases like a Bible for some ethnic groups, the wrong word may me used to mean God or Jesus, the Christ. With these I have an issue, but the translators do attempt to maintain the Word.

[Ezra]

But our Book of life, depending on the bible you are using, even the original King James version , from the niv, and others , we see that there is flaws in the interpretation of some words , which, has been used that are not adequate to the scripture and its body for reference and use of  a few words,

I can address your concerns because I have done the necessary research. There are several issues which need to be considered side-by-side: (1) the pure Hebrew and Greek texts vs the corrupted texts; (2) the faithful word-for-word translations vs the paraphrases and dynamic equivalent translations; and (3) the interpretation of Scripture, comparing scripture with scripture.

What we have today is a mass of confusion because of modern Bible versions based on the *Critical Texts*. For the last 150 years, the majority of textual scholars have based their ideas on a false premise -- that a handful of ancient (but corrupt) texts are superior to the majority of manuscripts. This had led to thousands of changes in the bibles (including omissions of whole verses and passages) and several hundreds of changes which affect doctrine.

The most reliable and faithful English translation is the one that Christians have had for over 400 years -- the Authorized Version or the King James Bible. The Geneva Bible is equivalent but did not gain the same acceptance. But one always needs to consult Strong's Exhaustive Concordance as well as Thayer's Lexicon etc. to get to the full meaning of the words. There are also expository dictionaries such as Vine's which can help to gain a proper understanding.  But when it comes to interpretation, only those who have the indwelling Holy Spirit and are guided into all truth by the Spirit will receive the correct interpretation.

All modern versions starting with the RV, ASV, RSV, NASV, NIV, etc. are based upon the Critical Texts and the Critical Texts are based upon corrupted Hebrew and Greek printed texts. Hence there are additions, omissions, alterations, transpositions, etc. in the modern "bibles".  The English Standard Version (ESV) claims to be in the lineage of the KJV, but that is a false and misleading claim. It is not different than the other modern verisons.

[SINNERSAVED]

But our Book of life, depending on the bible you are using, even the original King James version , from the niv, and others , we see that there is flaws in the interpretation of some words , which, has been used that are not adequate to the scripture and its body for reference and use of  a few words,

I can address your concerns because I have done the necessary research. There are several issues which need to be considered side-by-side: (1) the pure Hebrew and Greek texts vs the corrupted texts; (2) the faithful word-for-word translations vs the paraphrases and dynamic equivalent translations; and (3) the interpretation of Scripture, comparing scripture with scripture.

What we have today is a mass of confusion because of modern Bible versions based on the *Critical Texts*. For the last 150 years, the majority of textual scholars have based their ideas on a false premise -- that a handful of ancient (but corrupt) texts are superior to the majority of manuscripts. This had led to thousands of changes in the bibles (including omissions of whole verses and passages) and several hundreds of changes which affect doctrine.

The most reliable and faithful English translation is the one that Christians have had for over 400 years -- the Authorized Version or the King James Bible. The Geneva Bible is equivalent but did not gain the same acceptance. But one always needs to consult Strong's Exhaustive Concordance as well as Thayer's Lexicon etc. to get to the full meaning of the words. There are also expository dictionaries such as Vine's which can help to gain a proper understanding.  But when it comes to interpretation, only those who have the indwelling Holy Spirit and are guided into all truth by the Spirit will receive the correct interpretation.

All modern versions starting with the RV, ASV, RSV, NASV, NIV, etc. are based upon the Critical Texts and the Critical Texts are based upon corrupted Hebrew and Greek printed texts. Hence there are additions, omissions, alterations, transpositions, etc. in the modern "bibles".  The English Standard Version (ESV) claims to be in the lineage of the KJV, but that is a false and misleading claim. It is not different than the other modern verisons.

thank you very much for that EZRA, and I am glad you mentioned the  Vines Expository Dictionary of biblical words, for I went to the swap meet and bought me one today ,for three dollars its a great find, and I do a lot of finding of bible word dictionaries  etc to help to get through, the meanings and the translations, ,

I would recommend that we all get a bible words and breakdown on words translated to help us in our walk with God, for now most of the bibles, are really ,really famine of the word of God, many new Niv and so on ,are missing scripture verses completely , or omits, the power of the saving grace, and so the bibles are also watered down with no real effect of Gods power, it is satans way of keeping us away from believeing and putting our trust in Jesus, and being saved,

I was also told that the bibles today are published by the same of playboy etc, gentlemens  mags, and to get copies made  the bibles cannot all be the same , so they can sell a lot of Books, not caring what is written in them,its all about the selling books and money, people will buy any book now and forget to read the bible, they have to be different from each other, that was part of a study I did once,

Edited November 21, 2015 by SINNERSAVED

[Marilyn C]

Hi SINNERSAVED,

 My thoughts will be with specific scriptures, words, that have been altered & actually change the whole meaning of what God has said.

1. Eph. 5: 25 - 27 (NAS) uses the word `her` when the correct word is `it.` Thus people have thought the body is female where as it is the new man. The `it` refers to the word `body.`

2. Rev. 5: 8 -10. Bibles have used the word `on` (for on the earth) whereas the meaning of the Greek word `epi` means` over`, thus `over the earth.` Note the KJ Bible I have does put `over` in the margin.

3. Jude 14,  Zech. 14: 5. many Bibles have written `saints` whereas the Greek word is `hagio` & the Hebrew word is `quodos` both meaning sacred, holy. They can mean saints or angels. Thus to find out which we need to read other scriptures on that topic.

 

Actually these very scriptures have lead to great error in people`s understanding of God`s great purposes.

Hope they are of help, Marilyn.

[FresnoJoe]

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[Marilyn C]

Hi SINNERSAVED,

 My thoughts will be with specific scriptures, words, that have been altered & actually change the whole meaning of what God has said.

1. Eph. 5: 25 - 27 (NAS) uses the word `her` when the correct word is `it.` Thus people have thought the body is female where as it is the new man. The `it` refers to the word `body.`

2. Rev. 5: 8 -10. Bibles have used the word `on` (for on the earth) whereas the meaning of the Greek word `epi` means` over`, thus `over the earth.` Note the KJ Bible I have does put `over` in the margin.

3. Jude 14,  Zech. 14: 5. many Bibles have written `saints` whereas the Greek word is `hagio` & the Hebrew word is `quodos` both meaning sacred, holy. They can mean saints or angels. Thus to find out which we need to read other scriptures on that topic.

 

Actually these very scriptures have lead to great error in people`s understanding of God`s great purposes.

Hope they are of help, Marilyn.

Hi SINNERSAVED,

I thought I would show how those errors I posted lead people to the wrong understanding of their eternal inheritance.

ERROR

So if someone thinks that Eph. 5 is speaking of the body of Christ as `her,` a female`, then they get led to the thought of the `bride.` Then they read Rev. 19: 7 about the `wife` & think that is them. They then read about the army that comes with the Lord & think that is the `saints` ( errors from Jude 14 & Zech. 14: 5). Finally they read in Rev. 5 about reigning `on` the earth. Thus they have been deceived into believing that they are a `bride` that will come back with Christ to fight the world`s armies, then rule on the earth.

 

TRUTH

The Body of Christ is the `new man,` & sits with Christ in the third heaven, (Rev. 3: 21) & rules `over` not `on` the earth. The `wife/bride` is Israel whom God `divorced` when they turned from Him. When the Lord comes to connect (marry again) to Israel He will come in power & great glory with His holy angels as He tells us in - Matt. 24: 30 & 31,  Matt. 25: 31, Luke 9: 26  &  2 Thess. 1: 7) 

So we can see that those few small errors have led many people into wrong interpretation of God`s word. This also is the reason why there is so much error in pre-mid-post tribulation discussions. Once we understand the correct words then God`s word is very clear as to what group goes where.

 

Marilyn.

 

 

 

 

[thereselittleflower]

https://www.blueletterbible.org/       is an excellent, free, online source of all these material and much more.

[Deborah_]

Hi SINNERSAVED,

 My thoughts will be with specific scriptures, words, that have been altered & actually change the whole meaning of what God has said.

1. Eph. 5: 25 - 27 (NAS) uses the word `her` when the correct word is `it.` Thus people have thought the body is female where as it is the new man. The `it` refers to the word `body.`

2. Rev. 5: 8 -10. Bibles have used the word `on` (for on the earth) whereas the meaning of the Greek word `epi` means` over`, thus `over the earth.` Note the KJ Bible I have does put `over` in the margin.

3. Jude 14,  Zech. 14: 5. many Bibles have written `saints` whereas the Greek word is `hagio` & the Hebrew word is `quodos` both meaning sacred, holy. They can mean saints or angels. Thus to find out which we need to read other scriptures on that topic.

 

Eph 5:25-27 The word 'it' actually refers to the church.

Rev 5:8-10  Epi also means 'on', and that is how it is most often translated.

[thereselittleflower]

But our Book of life, depending on the bible you are using, even the original King James version , from the niv, and others , we see that there is flaws in the interpretation of some words , which, has been used that are not adequate to the scripture and its body for reference and use of  a few words,

I can address your concerns because I have done the necessary research. There are several issues which need to be considered side-by-side: (1) the pure Hebrew and Greek texts vs the corrupted texts; (2) the faithful word-for-word translations vs the paraphrases and dynamic equivalent translations; and (3) the interpretation of Scripture, comparing scripture with scripture.

What we have today is a mass of confusion because of modern Bible versions based on the *Critical Texts*. For the last 150 years, the majority of textual scholars have based their ideas on a false premise -- that a handful of ancient (but corrupt) texts are superior to the majority of manuscripts. This had led to thousands of changes in the bibles (including omissions of whole verses and passages) and several hundreds of changes which affect doctrine.

The most reliable and faithful English translation is the one that Christians have had for over 400 years -- the Authorized Version or the King James Bible. The Geneva Bible is equivalent but did not gain the same acceptance. But one always needs to consult Strong's Exhaustive Concordance as well as Thayer's Lexicon etc. to get to the full meaning of the words. There are also expository dictionaries such as Vine's which can help to gain a proper understanding.  But when it comes to interpretation, only those who have the indwelling Holy Spirit and are guided into all truth by the Spirit will receive the correct interpretation.

All modern versions starting with the RV, ASV, RSV, NASV, NIV, etc. are based upon the Critical Texts and the Critical Texts are based upon corrupted Hebrew and Greek printed texts. Hence there are additions, omissions, alterations, transpositions, etc. in the modern "bibles".  The English Standard Version (ESV) claims to be in the lineage of the KJV, but that is a false and misleading claim. It is not different than the other modern verisons.

thank you very much for that EZRA, and I am glad you mentioned the  Vines Expository Dictionary of biblical words, for I went to the swap meet and bought me one today ,for three dollars its a great find, and I do a lot of finding of bible word dictionaries  etc to help to get through, the meanings and the translations, ,

I would recommend that we all get a bible words and breakdown on words translated to help us in our walk with God, for now most of the bibles, are really ,really famine of the word of God, many new Niv and so on ,are missing scripture verses completely , or omits, the power of the saving grace, and so the bibles are also watered down with no real effect of Gods power, it is satans way of keeping us away from believeing and putting our trust in Jesus, and being saved,

I was also told that the bibles today are published by the same of playboy etc, gentlemens  mags, and to get copies made  the bibles cannot all be the same , so they can sell a lot of Books, not caring what is written in them,its all about the selling books and money, people will buy any book now and forget to read the bible, they have to be different from each other, that was part of a study I did once,

I would not listen to everything you hear.

Publishers of bibles are:

Zondervan 

Thomas Nelson Bibles

Holman Bible Publishers

Tyndale House Publishers

for starters

 

Many belong to the 

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