Vatican: Jews can be saved without Christ

[thereselittleflower]

So where are the Pope's or Vatican's words documented in full,  rather than in snippets without context?

Since when is the media able to accurately portray what the Pope says?     These threads are like being on a bus bound for nowhere - little to no critical thinking about what is being posted.

Even the very little that was quoted doesn't say what the article claims or people in this thread have claimed.

People, why do you just blindly accept what some media outlet says?

 

 

 

 

[thereselittleflower]

12 minutes ago, gdemoss said:

I like this part

Rom 11:15 For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, whatshall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?

But more over I ask, can any one of you declare who is and is not a blood descendant of Jacob?  Can you say with any real certainty that I am not?  That you are not?  How is the determination made?

As for the Vatican statement regarding the Jews,  I hate being third party to a conversation.  So much gets lost in the translation of the conversation while people are seeking to boil down what has or has not been said.

This.  

[ayin jade]

1 hour ago, thereselittleflower said:

So where are the Pope's or Vatican's words documented in full,  rather than in snippets without context?

Since when is the media able to accurately portray what the Pope says?     These threads are like being on a bus bound for nowhere - little to no critical thinking about what is being posted.

Even the very little that was quoted doesn't say what the article claims or people in this thread have claimed.

People, why do you just blindly accept what some media outlet says?

 

 

 

 

That right there shows you where to find the full document. 

 

Sigh or it would if this stupid software didnt change what I typed in .... gonna try again

[ayin jade]

http://www.worthychristianforums.com/topic/194972-catholics-should-not-try-to-convert-jews-vatican-says-in-landmark-document/?do=findComment&comment=2301093

[gdemoss]

http://www.news.va/en/news/vatican-issues-new-document-on-christian-jewish-di

That claims to contain the full document 

[*Zion*]

The sad thing is that his words actually carry some weight with a few millions of people.  But God is not finished with Israel!  They shall look upon Him who they have pierced!  And they shall not see Him again until they say: "Blessed is He who comes in the Name of the Lord!"

Whatever Francis may be trying to pull, that will not change.

[Guest shiloh357]

8 hours ago, Widor1 said:

So, if Jews cannot believe in Jesus Christ, that must mean Paul, Peter... heck, all the Jews that followed Jesus weren't saved. Right? Am I reading this correctly?

Joh 8:31  Then Jesus said to those Jews who believed Him, "If you abide in My word, you are My disciples indeed.
Joh 8:32  And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free."

 

I guess the Pope forgot that Paul and Peter were Jews... 

[*Zion*]

9 minutes ago, shiloh357 said:

I guess the Pope forgot that Paul and Peter were Jews... 

Lol!

[Ezra]

7 hours ago, thereselittleflower said:

So where are the Pope's or Vatican's words documented in full,  rather than in snippets without context?

Therese,

Did you read the articles posted? Nothing is being taken out of context as you imply. Why not face facts honestly?

[Ezra]

25 minutes ago, Davida said:

That is a horrible declaration he made. It is truly heart-wrenching when you realize the vast number of people that come under this delusional evil influence, and not just those directly in the Catholic Church.  When you try to give testimony, it really is like they are under some bewitchment. Believing that the Bible can be "interpreted" as they will, lies at the bottom of it.

The sad thing is that the Jews are welcoming this as a "Christian" declaration. They too are blinded, but now the light of the Gospel will be dismissed by many as inapplicable.