If life is in the blood, does God allow blood transfusions ?

[other one]

Yes, life is in the blood......   and what better gift could you give someone who is dying from the lack of it.

[Eha]

1 hour ago, simplejeff said:

Those disciples kept AND HONORED TORAH every day.  Just like JESUS ALWAYS DID....

correct.
and its possible ONLY if we are lead by Spirit.
thats the difference between OT and NT.
in OT times, people did try and failed (then they did bring sacrifice)
in NT times we can.. because gift of Holy Spirit is given now to all, who ask.

 

1 hour ago, Reinitin said:

 

I am subjected to the law Jeff. I know to be honest, don't steal, don't covet, don't serve other gods, don't bow to graven images, don't cheat people, forgive, be a witness, keep Sabbath. I know Gods law is good and so I try to do what it requires But keeping His law in my mind does not fulfill righteousness in me. The Lord Jesus Christ is the promise to fulfill the righteousness of God and if I am not in Him and He is not in me there is no righteousness by the law and there is no eternal seed planted by the working of the law.

 

you see, Reintin. somehow people just dont notice what is acts really about. its about Holy Spirit leading - HOW Holy Spirit leads us. apostles didnt talk about it much, but asked often - walk in Spirit, do not sin anymore, as Jesus did live, so should we... and so on. but HOW is in acts.
i give You a hint.
(dont say im smart, just im blessed with good ears, thats all and love questioning Father. i just share what He say)

so - HOW?

Acts 1:2 until the day when he was taken up, after he had given commands through the Holy Spirit to the apostles whom he had chosen.

Acts 8:29 And the Spirit said to Philip, “Go over and join this chariot.”

Acts 10:19 And while Peter was pondering the vision, the Spirit said to him, “Behold, three men are looking for you.

Acts 11:12 And the Spirit told me to go with them, making no distinction. These six brothers also accompanied me, and we entered the man's house.

Acts 13:2 While they were worshiping the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said, “Set apart for me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them.”

Acts 16:6 And they went through the region of Phrygia and Galatia, having been forbidden by the Holy Spirit to speak the word in Asia.

Acts 16:7 And when they had come up to Mysia, they attempted to go into Bithynia, but the Spirit of Jesus did not allow them.

Acts 20:22 And now, behold, I am going to Jerusalem, constrained by the Spirit, not knowing what will happen to me there,

 

what we need is - circumcised ears

Acts 7:51 “You stiff-necked people, uncircumcised in heart and ears, you always resist the Holy Spirit. As your fathers did, so do you.

 

Isaiah 30:21 And your ears shall hear a word behind you, saying, “This is the way, walk in it,” when you turn to the right or when you turn to the left.

if you are lead by Spirit, teach by Spirit, on time, when you really need to know some, you will get answer - do or not.

i believe, that eating still blood is sin. 

but about blood transfusions i never did ask. if im sick or my kids or someone i know or did met, i just ask Father what to do and Holy Spirit tell me, what Father says.

i believe that way (ask Father) should be considered with those, who love Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

[Reinitin]

3 hours ago, simplejeff said:

Who here in this thread all along  said anything at all about keeping His Law in your mind ? ((tangent question just to get it out of the way))

For instance, if you say "OFFICER,  I really really MEANT to obey the speed limit - I did not mean to go 110 mph" will he then say , okay then , as long as you didn't mean to break the law, go on then.... ? NO, he will give a ticket for breaking the law.  NOT for what you thought.

Remember on JUDGMENT DAY, multitudes THINK "lord, lord, did we not do so much for you "

but the JUDGMENT AGAINST THEM STAYS.   They SINNED and did not repent nor seek to do what is RIGHT - they did not call on Yahweh for help, NOR DID THEY SEEK HIM, nor did they ever do anything pleasing to HIM... ... ... ... ...

They were((will be)) JUDGED by THE JUDGE for what they did do.  NO ONE REDEEMED THEM.

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"I am subjected to the law Jeff. I know to be honest, don't steal, don't covet, don't serve other gods, don't bow to graven images, don't cheat people, forgive, be a witness, keep Sabbath. I know Gods law is good and so I try to do what it requires "

I am not sure you/we/believers are subjected to the law.  Not the point here also.

Do you be honest? Yes.  Steal? No.((not wittingly anyway; many many people steal without knowing it))

Covet? No. Serve other gods? No.  Bow to graven images? No. Cheat people? No. Forgive ? YES.

be a witness? ((Testimony of Yahshua; Testify/Tell of HIM)) YES   keep Sabbath?  Yes

 

WHICH ONE OF THOSE was it difficult to do ? Any of them? Which ones could you ONLY TRY TO DO ? Any of them? 

I think you keep the law, because it is right to do.  Not to earn your salvation.

Right ? ((Affirmative Positively Expected))

Yahshua Messiah humbled HIMSELF from heaven/eternity to be born a man.

He learned obedience through things He suffered.

He was tempted as we are, yet no sin was ever found in Him.

He was beaten, stoned, stripped naked before a crowd including His mother and brothers and disciples.

His flesh was torn from His body, His beard gruesomely plucked bleeding.

He was HUNG ON A TREE -----  "cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree"

for us . . . . . . . . .

 

 

amen

Jeff, you are so right we listen to him and do the works prepared for us. But, the topic is about serving the law concerning blood. I was offering what I have learned as the why our flesh whether tainted by blood our changed by receiving blood is in the grave, buried in Christ already judged and found guilty. We follow Christ who is new life in us and live by His nature not the workings of the law and the flesh.

[Sister]

On 6/3/2016 at 9:41 AM, SINNERSAVED said:

here is a topic that I want to place into two parts actually ?

first part, I know that there is a group that does not allow blood transfusions, for it is against there belief,

this is what I was told , but never really got any real facts on this case, so if the Blood is life, and we have it in us, then if any out side viruses, contamination, or any one elses blood we receive , in a accident or during a surgery, would that be contaminating our own blood, and would it make us different, then when we were born, until the time of accident ? or case needing ,.when new blood is introduced into our system to live or to save a life ?

could this affect our worship or standing with God in any way , ?

second, is it scriptural ,and allowable ,for us to do this,  this is a  legit question that, we should be able see if it is in the bible, or if it is not, but very interesting to me, and from all the other groups of religion and denominations, we have today, how do we say that someone is wrong  or there practices are wrong, ? if it is not addressed or in a clear and open understanding to us, for we cannot judge unless we know the truth and the correct spirit of the law and Gods word for our selves, for we do not all think the same , and many come from different interpretations of what we experience as believers, in Christ Jesus,

for I know we are to test everything, and to see if Gods word in scripture, is taken in account to make the decisions that we do , and that ,

if it is not scriptural then we do not follow it, this we all agree,

but there are things in other beliefs , that we from the start shut down, prior to looking it up ,and testing it against scripture ,before a conclusion is made, so this topic, is open for discussion,  I am sure we can reason together, to get answers and scripture to try to figure this out, thank you and blessings,

Sinnersaved

The more one has been given, the more is expected of him.

The world has traveled the wide path don't forget.  Everything that is sacred to God they have turned into an abomination calling it good.

It will have to be a conscience thing, a decision each one of us has to make personally according to what we have been given.

[Retrobyter]

On March 6, 2016 at 8:41 PM, SINNERSAVED said:

here is a topic that I want to place into two parts actually ?

first part, I know that there is a group that does not allow blood transfusions, for it is against there belief,

this is what I was told , but never really got any real facts on this case, so if the Blood is life, and we have it in us, then if any out side viruses, contamination, or any one elses blood we receive , in a accident or during a surgery, would that be contaminating our own blood, and would it make us different, then when we were born, until the time of accident ? or case needing ,.when new blood is introduced into our system to live or to save a life ?

could this affect our worship or standing with God in any way , ?

second, is it scriptural ,and allowable ,for us to do this,  this is a  legit question that, we should be able see if it is in the bible, or if it is not, but very interesting to me, and from all the other groups of religion and denominations, we have today, how do we say that someone is wrong  or there practices are wrong, ? if it is not addressed or in a clear and open understanding to us, for we cannot judge unless we know the truth and the correct spirit of the law and Gods word for our selves, for we do not all think the same , and many come from different interpretations of what we experience as believers, in Christ Jesus,

for I know we are to test everything, and to see if Gods word in scripture, is taken in account to make the decisions that we do , and that ,

if it is not scriptural then we do not follow it, this we all agree,

but there are things in other beliefs , that we from the start shut down, prior to looking it up ,and testing it against scripture ,before a conclusion is made, so this topic, is open for discussion,  I am sure we can reason together, to get answers and scripture to try to figure this out, thank you and blessings,

"The life of the flesh is in the blood" is a statement of fact. It has no connotation or denotation involved in its words.

The blood is how every cell in the body receives its oxygen and nutrients and disposes of its carbon dioxide and waste products. Since the first time that Adam breathed on his own, he BECAME a "living soul," that is, "a living air-breather."

When we breathe, we take in the oxygen that the whole body needs. It passes into the alveoli in the lungs and through osmosis at the capillary level, oxygen passes into the blood stream, particularly the hemoglobin of the red blood cells, and is taken to all the cells of the human body (or animal body). Also in the transfer, carbon dioxide is removed from the blood stream and passes to the air within the alveoli and passed out of the lungs when we exhale.

There is NOTHING in these processes that depend upon the genetic structure of the person (or animal).

In the small intestines, food particles that are digested into the components that the body's cells can use are absorbed into the surrounding blood capillaries.

In the liver and kidneys, the waste products in the blood stream are extracted and eliminated.

There is nothing "righteous" or "unrighteous" in these chemical reactions. So, by learning that there are eight different types of blood, A+, A-, B+, B-, AB+, AB-, O+, and O-, there is nothing special in the blood of one individual from that of another individual within the same blood type!

Any disease, whether bacterial or viral, is an infection from an outside source that is isolated and neutralized by the white blood cells and eliminated by the lymphatic system.

Adam was created with all these systems in place and working when God first started his breathing process with the first "CPR" procedure. Every animal was created fully functional in the same way!

THEREFORE, to ASSUME that this blood of an individual must be isolated from that of other individuals to be "righteous" in some way, is ridiculous. It is just as ridiculous as avoiding God's name completely so as not to "take His name in vain!" It's just as ridiculous as avoiding contact with all sinners so as not to be tempted to sin!

God has given us advances in science and biology and medicine to HELP us, not to TEMPT us! Shame on ANY group of people who throw God's gifts back in His face with a self-righteous attitude!

[Ezra]

On 06/03/2016 at 6:41 PM, SINNERSAVED said:

I know that there is a group that does not allow blood transfusions, for it is against there belief

There is nothing in Scripture that forbids blood transfusions, just like there is nothing in Scripture that forbids surgery, anaesthesia, medications, or what have you. So this is just a phony issue.

Scripture forbids the consumption of blood in the diet, which is altogether different. 

[SINNERSAVED]

so the question is it biblical to have blood added to your blood, would it affect any thing of you in your spiritual walk with God,?

 the reason I ask this topic and placed it into a conversation, was not to ask a ridiculus question but to see where others see if it is something we can do or not, for there is other religions that do not allow this, so that's why I asked, this, for it is not in the bible for what I can see, unless I am not seeing it yet,

 for life is in the blood, and we know how it works, but is it something  ,like eating meats, that blood is involve, and is there anything that God or the bible tells us about on this,

 it is a reasonable question,  > do you not think so ? thank you

[SINNERSAVED]

On ‎3‎/‎7‎/‎2016 at 9:55 PM, Sister said:

Sinnersaved

The more one has been given, the more is expected of him.

The world has traveled the wide path don't forget.  Everything that is sacred to God they have turned into an abomination calling it good.

It will have to be a conscience thing, a decision each one of us has to make personally according to what we have been given.

thank you for that honest and truthful answer, many times, there are questions to be asked, but it is hard, and so how will you know ? if you do not ask, it is okay to ask, if you have a question, and there is a few things still today that amazes me,

 when some will think you are crazy , or going against God, for asking a question, that needs to be answered, and yet, will willfully Sin,

 due to the fact of lack of knowledge, so we see this all the time, , so I could use more input, on this topic, it is something to think about, and your answer is good , and  a honest one, thank you  Sister  blessings to you ,

[SINNERSAVED]

8 minutes ago, Ezra said:

There is nothing in Scripture that forbids blood transfusions, just like there is nothing in Scripture that forbids surgery, anaesthesia, medications, or what have you. So this is just a phony issue.

Scripture forbids the consumption of blood in the diet, which is altogether different. 

 

thank you Ezra, I think its a very valid question,

[Ezra]

11 minutes ago, SINNERSAVED said:

thank you Ezra, I think its a very valid question,

You are most welcome.  We should always remember what Christ said -- it is not what goes into a man that defiles him, but what comes out of his heart.