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14 hours ago, tigger398 said:

Any idea of when they will start the temple.

It could happen, however if they built a 3rd Temple it would be WW3.  I see prophetically, a regional war -- whereby the AC comes to power and is heralded by the Jews as the Messiah when he defeats Islam (also in the midst of this war, I see some Jewish writings that describe the "death" of the leader and a subsequent resurrection that will give him the "authority" so to speak to destroy Islam.)

The Key Verse --

Dan 11:44  But news from the east and the north shall alarm him, and he shall go out with great fury to destroy and devote many to destruction.

This proceeds this verse --

Dan 11:45  And he shall pitch his palatial tents between the sea and the glorious holy mountain. Yet he shall come to his end, with none to help him.

As mentioned before, what does verse 45 indicate?  A Temple, a Tabernacle, ... this is the question?

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Ok so rapture, antichrist then temple.

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8 hours ago, tigger398 said:

Ok so rapture, antichrist then temple.

I'm not convinced by any stretch of the imagination that we'll NOT see the AntiChrist.  Read carefully,

2Th 2:3  Let not anyone deceive you by any means. For that Day shall not come unless there first comes a falling away, and the man of sin shall be revealed, the son of perdition,
2Th 2:4  who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God, or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, setting himself forth, that he is God.

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7 minutes ago, George said:

I'm not convinced by any stretch of the imagination that we'll NOT see the AntiChrist.  Read carefully,

2Th 2:3  Let not anyone deceive you by any means. For that Day shall not come unless there first comes a falling away, and the man of sin shall be revealed, the son of perdition,
2Th 2:4  who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God, or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, setting himself forth, that he is God.

So you are thinking mid trib?

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1 hour ago, bopeep1909 said:

So you are thinking mid trib?

Well it does say that bopeep. So antichrist , rapture then temple.

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8 minutes ago, tigger398 said:

Well it does say that bopeep. So antichrist , rapture then temple.

I think that "Got Questions" describes my concerns for the mid trib rapture theory well.

First Thessalonians 5:9 says that the church has not been appointed “to suffer wrath but to receive salvation.” This would seem to indicate that believers will not experience the tribulation. However, midtribulationism interprets “wrath” as only referring to the second half of the tribulation—specifically, the bowl judgments. Limiting the word in such a way seems unwarranted, however. Surely the terrible judgments contained in the seals and trumpets—including famine, poisoned rivers, a darkened moon, bloodshed, earthquakes, and torment—could also be considered the wrath of God.

Midtribulationism places the rapture in Revelation 11, prior to the start of the great tribulation. There are two problems with this placement in the chronology of Revelation. First, the only occurrence of the term “great tribulation” in the entire book of Revelation is in 7:14, before the opening of the seventh seal. Second, the only reference to a “great day of wrath” is in Revelation 6:17, during the events of the sixth seal. Both of these references come too early for a midtribulational rapture, which is timed according to the seventh trumpet.

And a final weakness of the midtribulational view is shared by the other two theories: namely, the Bible does not give an explicit timeline concerning future events. Scripture does not expressly teach one view over another, and that is why we have diversity of opinion concerning the end times and some variety on how the related prophecies should be harmonized.

http://www.gotquestions.org/midtribulationism.html

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1 hour ago, bopeep1909 said:

I think that "Got Questions" describes my concerns for the mid trib rapture theory well.

First Thessalonians 5:9 says that the church has not been appointed “to suffer wrath but to receive salvation.” This would seem to indicate that believers will not experience the tribulation. However, midtribulationism interprets “wrath” as only referring to the second half of the tribulation—specifically, the bowl judgments. Limiting the word in such a way seems unwarranted, however. Surely the terrible judgments contained in the seals and trumpets—including famine, poisoned rivers, a darkened moon, bloodshed, earthquakes, and torment—could also be considered the wrath of God.

Midtribulationism places the rapture in Revelation 11, prior to the start of the great tribulation. There are two problems with this placement in the chronology of Revelation. First, the only occurrence of the term “great tribulation” in the entire book of Revelation is in 7:14, before the opening of the seventh seal. Second, the only reference to a “great day of wrath” is in Revelation 6:17, during the events of the sixth seal. Both of these references come too early for a midtribulational rapture, which is timed according to the seventh trumpet.

And a final weakness of the midtribulational view is shared by the other two theories: namely, the Bible does not give an explicit timeline concerning future events. Scripture does not expressly teach one view over another, and that is why we have diversity of opinion concerning the end times and some variety on how the related prophecies should be harmonized.

 

Won't God protect us till rapture.

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2 minutes ago, tigger398 said:

Won't God protect us till rapture.

God has a plan for the rapture of the Church and when it will happen. God is always protecting those who love Him.

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Won't God protect us till rapture.                                                         posted by Tigger

Of course He Will Tigger,we are His,,,,,,,,,,

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Cast thy burden upon the LORD, and he shall sustain thee: he shall never suffer the righteous to be moved.       Psalm 55:22

                                                                                                                  With love-in Christ,Kwik

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14 hours ago, bopeep1909 said:

So you are thinking mid trib?

Interesting, that I got labeled for quoting 2 verses!  :)

Just so you know, I'm not a Mid-Tribber.  :)

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