But The New Tolerance Goes Beyond That And Is Actually Quite Cruel

[MorningGlory]

On 11/10/2017 at 8:08 AM, simplejeff said:

I would love to see any site that does not allow heretical teachings.  Can you name even one ?

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Rapture Ready.

[OneLight]

1 hour ago, MorningGlory said:

On 11/10/2017 at 9:08 AM, simplejeff said:

I would love to see any site that does not allow heretical teachings.  Can you name even one ?

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Rapture Ready.

Rapture Ready will not tolerate any doctrine of the rapture if it does not line up with their pre-trib beliefs.  The statement of heretical teaching is in the eye of the beholder.  RR would call anything outside of Pre-Trib heretical where I would not.

[MorningGlory]

23 hours ago, OneLight said:

Rapture Ready will not tolerate any doctrine of the rapture if it does not line up with their pre-trib beliefs.  The statement of heretical teaching is in the eye of the beholder.  RR would call anything outside of Pre-Trib heretical where I would not.

That's true about Rapture teaching but also true that they don't allow random 'philosophies' and unbiblical teaching on that site.  They are actually TOO cut and dried for me but you get my point.

[OneLight]

30 minutes ago, Davida said:

I don't know they call anyone else "heretical" .   Rapture ready just shows their argument for pre-trib and expresses where they see mid-trib or the others as being incorrect.

 

I was shown the door on that site years ago by a moderator who didn't like my theology and have not returned.  It could of changed since then ... not sure.

[Guest shiloh357]

On ‎2‎/‎28‎/‎2018 at 2:16 PM, OneLight said:

Rapture Ready will not tolerate any doctrine of the rapture if it does not line up with their pre-trib beliefs.  The statement of heretical teaching is in the eye of the beholder.  RR would call anything outside of Pre-Trib heretical where I would not.

I don't think any rapture view can be labeled as heresy or false teaching.  I lean toward a pre-trib view, but am open to being wrong.   Heresy only applies to essential Christian doctrine and there is no doctrine of the rapture.  It is not an essential teaching and so it can be debated without anyone being a heretic.

Hopefully they don't hold to the view that mid or post trib views are heresies.  They are mistaken if they do.

[OneLight]

On 3/1/2018 at 4:19 PM, Davida said:

I see no where on his site where he calls others mid-trib or post-tribs  heretics was my point though.  I personally think keeping his site with one pre-trib teaching is that is better then a Christian site that allows any and every false teaching on any given Bible topic to be preached.

 

20 minutes ago, shiloh357 said:

I don't think any rapture view can be labeled as heresy or false teaching.  I lean toward a pre-trib view, but am open to being wrong.   Heresy only applies to essential Christian doctrine and there is no doctrine of the rapture.  It is not an essential teaching and so it can be debated without anyone being a heretic.

Hopefully they don't hold to the view that mid or post trib views are heresies.  They are mistaken if they do.

The last time I was on that site was before I joined here, in 2007.

[JoeChan82]

On ‎11‎/‎8‎/‎2017 at 9:12 AM, SkyWriting said:

I am only sinning when I violate a rule God has impressed on me. 

Would you like the  supporting text on that?

I'll go get it again for you, if you request.

Romans 7:7 ¶ What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

Sin is not subjective.  The law tells us what constitutes sin, whether we are impressed or not. 

[JoeChan82]

On ‎11‎/‎9‎/‎2017 at 2:46 AM, Sojourner414 said:

I believe "SkyWriting" has crossed the line into outright heresy, as he's now denying the legitimacy of Paul's apostleship and therefore most of the NT as well as denying core teachings  of the Gospels.

Paul and probably David too. SkyWriting has his feet planted firmly in the air.

Psalm 97:10 Ye that love the LORD, hate evil: he preserveth the souls of his saints; he delivereth them out of the hand of the wicked.

Psalm 139:21 Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?

[Billiards Ball]

On 9/24/2016 at 10:30 AM, FresnoJoe said:

Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, Matthew 24:12 (New International Version)

the new tolerance doesn’t simply mean that you must allow for differences among people or society without castigation or persecution. We are now required by the Orwellian definition of tolerance to positively promote such lifestyles, customs, and deviance (moral or otherwise), almost to the point of the denigration of the majority culture.

We should be tolerant of differences; indeed, we should ever be hospitable to the stranger, allow for religious differences, celebrate the fact that there is freedom of speech and of thought , traces of the formerly Christian culture. This comes from Moses and of course, Jesus and the prophets, and seeped its way into western society.

But the new tolerance goes beyond that and is actually quite cruel.

For example, take the new toleration of Islam. When there is something toxic about a culture, an inherent flaw in it, to “tolerate it” to the point of admiringly upholding it almost as a model “religion of peace” does no service to the people in it. Our own government practiced this after 9-11-2001.

The Muslim people desperately need to be confronted as human beings with the serious flaws of their own false religion, and 9-11 was an ideal “teachable moment,” but the new tolerance made it impossible to do so on a large-scale. I believe this new non-judgmental tolerance is cruel because it is both artificial and patronizing, and in the long run hurts everyone.

Muslims are human beings too, and in spite of the teachings of Mohammed, they still have a conscience and know very well that what happened on 9-11 was an act of criminal barbarity. As human beings none of them would want that to happen to them or any people they know. But the new tolerance “runs interference” on any real soul-searching.

The rush to justify Islam, and to appease the “hurt feelings” of Muslims in America and elsewhere actually hurts Muslims, because it denies them full responsibility as moral agents. Islam and its adherents have committed 16,000 acts of terror since 9-11, but in the new tolerance, they are mere victims to be pitied—an accommodation that places them on a less-than-human scale, perhaps through fear that is we don’t appease them, they will do us even greater violence.

I have been seeing the destruction caused by this cruel, new tolerance in the area of homosexuality as well. Those who try to point out that homosexuality is a destructive, literally damning way to live, are shut down by the new tolerance as “Haters,” of the homosexual. (I am trying to break the habit of calling them “Gay.” I don’t accept the premise—they aren’t “gay” when they are really miserable; and drug, alcohol, and suicide statistics bear this out.)

But who really “hates” the homosexual, and who truly “loves ” them? Those who practice the new tolerance actually hate the homosexual by condemning them to this “lifestyle,” affirming them in that which is sterile, deadly, filthy, and which debases and kills the conscience. This kind of “acceptance” is deadly.

Those who truly love the homosexuals are the ones who tell them in the name of the Lord that God has something better for them and that they are responsible beings who must give account for this distortion of God’s prophetic institution of marriage, and that change is entirely possible and so is forgiveness.

This new toxic tolerance has even seeped into the evangelical Christian church. There are those who have been embarrassed by the teachings of Jesus and the apostles and prophets of the Bible against Sodomy. They would gain cheap points with the world for being “compassionate” as opposed to those “judgmental religious hypocrites” who dare to speak the truth in love to this generation.

This is how Christians are consistently betraying one another and their Lord by posing as the “tolerant loving Christians,” in contrast to the faithful witnesses to truth in our time.

We must fervently call this heresy out for what it is, a perversion of the biblical teaching of love, which is based on truth and a revelation of the Holy God who created us in His image. Real love isn’t humanistic “tolerance;” it is Holy and upholds the truth of God. Love hates evil and rejoices in the truth.

The ironic thing about the new tolerance is that it only runs one way. Be aware that those who plead for “tolerance” for homosexuals, Islam, atheism, abortion, and pornography will prove to be so intolerable of Christians whom they will one day soon persecute without mercy. http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=14866

 

What Say Ye?

I say Romans 1 is being fulfilled--"applauding others who do that which is worthy of death". Our response? Gospel sharing!

[Still Alive]

I have found that what we are really experiencing is severe intolerance. Look at what Canada tried to do to Jordan Peterson. 

It's kinda funy. The left is the new prudes. But instead of being prudish about the F word and other, similar stuff, they are prudish about people not accepting their new rules.

i.e. Bake the cake!