Why does God let the Antichrist conquer the world?

[HAZARD]

10 minutes ago, Ezra said:

This is quite incorrect.  The Antichrist and the Beast of Revelation 13 are identical, and the Beast rules and controls THE WHOLE WORLD for 3 1/2 years. Please note (Rev 13:4-8):

4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. [3 1/2 years]

6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. [NOTE]

8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him [NOTE], whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

As to why God gives him this power, it is essentially to test all mankind, to see who will try to preserve their lives by worshiping Satan, and who will reject the Antichrist and be martyred for their faith in God.

 

Hi Ezra.

Antichrist’s great power will not be his own but will be in accord with the activity of Satan.  The Antichrist’s miracles, signs, and wonders are false  not in the sense that they are fakery but that they lead to false conclusions about who he is. They will cause people to believe the lie that he is a divine being and worship him. John saw that Antichrist’s deluded followers “worshiped the beast, saying, ‘Who is like the beast, and who is able to wage war with him?’ ” (Revelation 14:4).

Revelation 13: 11-18, KJV.

13. And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
 V. 12, And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
 V. 13, And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
 V. 14, And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
 V. 15, And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
 V. 16, And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive5 a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

 V. 17, And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the MARK, or THE NAME, of the BEAST, or THE NUMBER OF HIS NAME.

V.  18, Here is wisdom. Let him that has understanding count the number of the beast: FOR IT IS TNE NUMBER OF A MAN; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

The Antichrist, a man, will reign over only ten kingdoms that are yet to be formed inside the yet to be revived, Old Roman Empire. (Dan. 7:23-24). Only these ten kingdoms will give their power and kingdoms to him. (Rev.13:1; 17:12-17). Certain countries will escape his rule (Dan.11:40-44). Certain countries will make war on him at the very time he is supposed to be ruling the whole world (Dan. 11:40-44). Because he will reign only over ten countries inside the Roman Empire territory and because America is not inside that territory and never will be, and because certain countries will escape him we can scripturally conclude that he will never rule America or be a world-wide dictator. Therefore, multitudes of people of many nations will also never take the mark of the beast and they will never be killed by the Antichrist for not doing so.

 

The Bible speaks of many peoples of many nations that are left after the reign of the Antichrist, people who will be alive in the Millennium and will go up yearly to worship God (Zech. 14:16-21). This further limits the kingdom of the Antichrist to only part of the world and also limits his ability to kill everyone who does not take the mark even in his own empire. According to Rev. 14:9-11 no one who has taken the mark will go into the Millennium, but will be sent to eternal Hell.

 

That multitudes go into the Millennium proves they have not taken the mark of the beast and have not been killed, as taught by many Bible students. If the Antichrist were to kill every person who does not take his mark, and God sends to Hell everyone who does take the mark, then there would be not one person left to enter the Millennium.

 

Also, The mark of the beast will not be 666.

 

There are three brands men will have a choice of taking in the days of the Antichrist inside his kingdom. T

 

hey are his name, his mark, and the number of his name (Rev. 13:16-18).

 

The name and mark of this man is not given in scripture; so no one will know what they are until he comes and men get to know what his name and mark will be, and what he will chose to put on his followers. The only one of these three brands that is given is the number of his name, and that is stated as being 666 in Rev. 13:18.

 

So 666 is not the name or mark of THE BEAST. It is the NUMBER OF THE BEAST.

 

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Regarding the Antichrist ruling the  "WHOLE WORLD,"  the scriptures speak in context of the whole world as was then known. For example, regarding the Extent of Antichrist's Reign (Rev. 13:5-18) (Dan.7:23).

The question often arises, "Will the Antichrist have power over all kindreds, tongues, and nations, and will all that dwell on Earth worship him?"

 

While this can generally be answered in the affirmative, still much depends on what is meant by all. If all is used in the most inclusive sense and is meant to include every individual in the known world today, we can say that he will not have this power, but if it is taken to mean all that God has in mind-the latter day ten kingdoms of old Rome--we can say that all will include all affected by the decree made by the Antichrist in his empire.

The following points from scripture prove that the Antichrist will not rule over America or be a World Wide Dictator as many students of prophecy teach.

1. The word all in Rev.13 is simply part of the figure of speech called "synecdoche" in which a part is used for a whole and a whole for a part. It is frequently used in scripture as in the following examples:

1."I even I do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, where in is the breath of life, from under heaven; and EVERY THING that is in the earth shall die" (Gen.6:17). If we look at this literally as men do Rev.13, we would have Noah and his family and all the animals in the ark dead, for they were also under the Heaven and in the earth and yet did not die.

2. " And they utterly destroyed ALL THAT WERE IN THE CITY, both men and women" referring to the people in Jerico when the wall fell, but "all" here must be understood in a limited sense, for Rahab and all her people were spared (Josh. 6:21-25).

3. "David and ALL THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL played before the Lord" and brought up the ark" (2 Sam.6:5,15). yet not all Israel did this, for many did not know how to play instruments and many were too young and still many more were not even gathered at that one place.

4. "Six months did Joab remain there [out of his own country] with ALL ISRAEL untill he had cut off every male in Edom" (1 Kings 11:16,17). The "ALL ISRAEL" referred to here is part of the army of Israel.

5. In Rom.1:8 Paul said, "Your faith is spoken of throughout the WHOLE WORLD," but we know he meant only that the local church at Rome was known by many in the various parts of the Roman Empire. Multitudes outside of Rome, and even many inside the Empire of Rome had never yet heard of the Christian faith, much less of the local church at Rome. The same thing is true of Col. 1:23 where we read that the gospel had been "Preached to EVERY CREATURE UNDER HEAVEN" and in Rom. 10:18 it was preached "INTO ALL THE EARTH" and ''UNTO THE ENDS OF THE WORLD" The gospel has not even yet been taken to all nations, so we know the whole world was not evangelized in Paul's day.

6. In Acts 11:28 we read of a dearth [famin]  "THROUGHOUT ALL THE WORLD" which came to pass in the days of Claudius Caesar. That famin did not cover every part of the Roman Empire much less all continents and islands of the world.

Many hundreds of examples can be given to demonstrate the word ALL is used in a figurative sense of a part, so we do not need to believe that Rev.13 and Dan.7:23 means that the Antichrist of the future will literally reign over all the earth and kill all who do not take his mark.
We must, therefore, understand the way the word "all" is supposed to be understood in a particular scripture. If it means ALL in the all inclusive sense then there will be no limitations to it in the passage itself or in other scriptures on the same subject. If it means ALL of what it has reference to specifically and it is clear that it means a part of something and this is made clear in the passage itself or in other passages on the same subject, then we must be sensible to recognize the fact that ALL is not inclusive of all men on earth.

For example, when Paul said of God that it was His will that "ALL men come to the knowledge of the truth" (1 Tim.2:24), we know that this means ALL MEN without exception. But when we read of ALL MEN being baptized of John and in the same passage and in other passages on the subject, it is made clear that many were not baptized, then we take it as a figurative statement expressing that a great many in the region were baptized of John. We can see in both Testaments that God used universal terms in speaking of the extent of certain kingdoms and the powers of certain kings. We can also see that these terms show that only a great part of the earth was ruled by these kings and empires. We can therefore logically conclude that the extent of Antichrists kingdom and power could likewise be limited to a part of the world. Because we can find a number of scriptures limiting his power and authority to a part of the Earth, and they plainly tell us what part of the Earth will be under him and what part will not be under him then we must limit the "ALL" of Rev.13 and Dan. 7:23 to what territory he rules over and not make it universal as many prophetical students do.

[Marilyn C]

On ‎20‎/‎12‎/‎2016 at 3:24 PM, spiderman1917 said:

Daniel 7:25
He will speak against the Most High and oppress his holy people and try to change the set times and the laws. The holy people will be delivered into his hands for a time, times and half a time.

Who delivers the Holy people into his hand but God himself? How could the Antichrist overpower God's people and reign over earth without God wanting him to.  Could anyone conquer and rule earth without God's help?

  Could you imagine how lovable and talented someone would have to be to rule over all nations?  No one has ever come close.  Where could such gifts and talent come from?  Of course you will say the Devil, but could the Devil create such a person so lovable that the whole world (save for the elect) will worship him.  I think God gives the Antichrist his Destiny and the gifts to achieve world domination.  God has a purpose for everything under the sun, and He has a purpose for the Antichrist as well, don't you think?  

God clearly wills that the Antichrist reigns, no?  Why does God will this?

 

Hi spiderman,

I think it is a fair question to ask. So let`s have a look.

1. You think someone has to be loveable & talented to rule over all nations. Well Hitler had a good go at controlling many nations & he certainly wasn`t `loveable etc.` You forget that the heart of man is `wicked, self seeking.` This is how this global leader will be able to control other leaders of nations - deception.

2. The purpose of the Global leader is man`s desire as always to have control & power over others. God has told us that He is giving the Gentiles a certain time (Times of the Gentiles) to rule the world. (see Daniel`s great Image.) When that time is finished, when they (world`s armies) surround Jerusalem then God steps in & judges them, like a nuclear holocaust. (Zech. 14  & Luke 21: 20 - 24)

God is just and while He is chastising Israel for their rebellion against Him, He is giving the Gentile Nations much opportunity to show how they can rule the world. And I need not tell you Gentile rulership history - for it is not only woeful but horrendous.

regards, Marilyn.

[simplejeff]

On 12/19/2016 at 10:24 PM, spiderman1917 said:

Daniel 7:25
He will speak against the Most High and oppress his holy people and try to change the set times and the laws. The holy people will be delivered into his hands for a time, times and half a time.

Who delivers the Holy people into his hand but God himself? How could the Antichrist overpower God's people and reign over earth without God wanting him to.  Could anyone conquer and rule earth without God's help?.....

God clearly wills that the Antichrist reigns, no?  Why does God will this?

 

Y'SHUA came to destroy the works of the devil,  and took away the devil's power.

Just like the first Adam,  mankind continues to give power to the devil, to serve the devil,  willingly giving the devil authority just as Adam in sinning gave the devil authority - turned over authority to the devil in other words.

Those who are born again have authority in Y'SHUA'S NAME over the devil.  Those who are not don't. (as seen often in the NEW TESTAMENT, and since then in the ecclesia).

Yes,  YHWH at the appointed time(s) grants the enemy authority to take believer's lives,  as YHWH decided before creating the world and all life.

The believers abiding in Y'SHUA have no fear of death, nor of dying, nor of suffering.  Their peace and joy continuing every day is as written , a sign of their true faith and of their living every day,  daily in union with Y'SHUA and with the other believers. 

So even though when Y'SHUA calls us to die,  we die,  it is with utter trust in HIM, and complete willingness and even joy,  just like Stephen when he was stoned to death,  and the Apostles and disciples when they were put to death for their faith. (in the BIBLE, and since then, right up to TODAY).

[Ezra]

4 hours ago, HAZARD said:

Antichrist’s great power will not be his own but will be in accord with the activity of Satan.

That is entirely IRRELEVANT. The unholy trinity (the Devil, the Beast, and the False Prophet) acts in concert, so the Antichrist will indeed rule the world and control the world for 3 1/2 years. You claimed that this was not the case, but the Bible says otherwise.  Yes Satan will empower him, but that does not change this fact.  Indeed, it reinforces this fact.  So kindly revise your position to avoid misleading anyone.

[Diaste]

On 12/19/2016 at 9:24 PM, spiderman1917 said:

Daniel 7:25
He will speak against the Most High and oppress his holy people and try to change the set times and the laws. The holy people will be delivered into his hands for a time, times and half a time.

Who delivers the Holy people into his hand but God himself? How could the Antichrist overpower God's people and reign over earth without God wanting him to.  Could anyone conquer and rule earth without God's help?

  Could you imagine how lovable and talented someone would have to be to rule over all nations?  No one has ever come close.  Where could such gifts and talent come from?  Of course you will say the Devil, but could the Devil create such a person so lovable that the whole world (save for the elect) will worship him.  I think God gives the Antichrist his Destiny and the gifts to achieve world domination.  God has a purpose for everything under the sun, and He has a purpose for the Antichrist as well, don't you think?  

God clearly wills that the Antichrist reigns, no?  Why does God will this?

 

God wills that the beast comes to power to test the people of God, all of them; Christians, Jews, Catholics, and any other religion that calls on the name of Jesus. I have posted several replies replete with scripture proving this idea: The beast is coming to try believers and The Lord comes to put a stop to the trying fire, redeem the pure in heart and defeat the rebellion, or the rest of the people of earth.

 

[HAZARD]

11 hours ago, Ezra said:

That is entirely IRRELEVANT. The unholy trinity (the Devil, the Beast, and the False Prophet) acts in concert, so the Antichrist will indeed rule the world and control the world for 3 1/2 years. You claimed that this was not the case, but the Bible says otherwise.  Yes Satan will empower him, but that does not change this fact.  Indeed, it reinforces this fact.  So . kindly revise your position to avoid misleading anyone.

I said, the Antichrist, (who is a mortal man) will not be on his own.

He will not rule the WHOLE world for 3 1/2 years. He will rule the ten kingdoms of the revised Roman empire.

Scripture shows he will only reign over ten kingdoms that will yet be formed inside the Old Roman Empire territory (Dan. 7:23-24).

Only these ten kingdoms will give their power and kingdoms to him (Rev. 13:1; 17:12-17).

Certain countries WILL ESCAPE his rule (Dan. 11:40-44).

Certain countries will make war on him at the very time he is supposed to be ruling the whole world (Read Dan. 11:40-44). If he was ruling the whole world this could not happen. Because he will rule and reign only over ten countries inside the Old Roman Empire territory, and because America never was or ever will be inside that territory, and because certain countries escape the antichrist, we can Scripturally conclude and be at ease that he will not come from, or rule America, or even be a world wide dictator.

Hundreds of millions of people will never take his mark either. We have seen that many nations will not be under his rule, so naturally people in these countries, America included, will not have to take his mark and they will therefore not be killed. The Bible teaches that many peoples of "all nations," that are left after the reign of the Antichrist, people who will be alive in the Millennium and will go up yearly to worship God (Read Zech 14:16-21). This again further limits the kingdoms of the Antichrist to only a part of the world and limits his ability to kill everyone who does not take the mark, even in his own empire. According to Revelation 14:9-11, no one who has taken the mark will go into the Millennium, but will be sent to eternal Hell. That multitudes go into the Millennium proves they have not taken the mark of the beast and have not been killed. If the Antichrist ruled the entie world as many people believe, and he killed everyone who did not take his mark, and the Lord Jesus sends to Hell everyone who has taken the antichrists mark, then there would be not one person left to enter the Millennium? And this would be contrary to Zech. 14:16-21; Matt. 25:31-46; Isa. 2:1-4 and many Scriptures.

[7thseal]

On 12/19/2016 at 10:24 PM, spiderman1917 said:

Daniel 7:25

God clearly wills that the Antichrist reigns, no?  Why does God will this?

 

He allows choice. Satan was given a choice when he confronted Jesus Christ about wanting to sit on the seat of the most high and receive the praise which he was leading all angels in.

Satan made his choice once he shared his lies with the other angels of how he would lift them up above the most High if they would follow him.

Now the angels where provided with a choice with Satan's offer  and a 1/3 of them took it.

Now they're under the the authority of Satan and follow.

Satan then goes after God's creation formed after His likeness.

Satan offers them the same lie as he did the angles, be like God .... which in short is offering to be above Him the same as he did the other heavenly host.

What does new age religion teach... I am.

How many has Satan swept up with the same lie?

What does the one world religion teach? a lie.

Edited December 24, 2016 by 7thseal

[HAZARD]

If the Antichrist, a man, rules the WHOLE WORLD,  as some believe, and he kills all those who do not take his mark, and God sends all those who do take the Antichrists mark to Hell, where do all these people come from?

The Bible speaks of many peoples of MANY NATIONS that are left after the reign of the Antichrist, people who will be alive in the Millennium and will go up yearly to worship God (Zech. 14:16-21). 

V. 16, And it shall come to pass, that every one THAT IS LEFT of ALL THE NATIONS which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King and Lord of hosts, and keep the feast of tabernacles.

V. 17, And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.

 V. 18, And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

 V. 19, This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

 V. 20, In that day shall there be upon the bells of the horses, HOLINESS UNTO THE LORD; and the pots in the LORD'S house shall be like the bowls before the altar.

 V. 21, Yea, every pot in Jerusalem and in Judah shall be holiness unto the LORD of hosts: and all they that sacrifice shall come and take of them, and seethe therein: and in that day there shall be no more the Canaanite in the house of the LORD of hosts.

This further limits the kingdom of the Antichrist to only a part of the world and limits his ability to kill EVERYONE who does not take the mark even in his own empire. 

According to Rev. 14:9-11 no one who has taken the mark will go into the Millennium, but will be sent to eternal Hell.

[7thseal]

44 minutes ago, HAZARD said:

If the Antichrist, a man, rules the WHOLE WORLD,  as some believe, and he kills all those who do not take his mark, and God sends all those who do take the Antichrists mark to Hell, where do all these people come from?

The Bible speaks of many peoples of MANY NATIONS that are left after the reign of the Antichrist, people who will be alive in the Millennium and will go up yearly to worship God (Zech. 14:16-21). 

V. 16, And it shall come to pass, that every one THAT IS LEFT of ALL THE NATIONS which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King and Lord of hosts, and keep the feast of tabernacles.

 

Re-population of the earth. Israel, if we dig deeper, they'll be teaching nations how to 'farm' and grow vineyards.  God keeps His promise to His people and they're not wiped out even though driven into a corner on the mountain.

God tells the angels to go and invite all both good and bad to the feast. Jesus responds to those that don't have a robe (Believers having a white robe). The ones without are cast into outer darkness.

Edited December 24, 2016 by 7thseal

[Ezra]

1 hour ago, HAZARD said:

If the Antichrist, a man, rules the WHOLE WORLD,  as some believe, and he kills all those who do not take his mark, and God sends all those who do take the Antichrists mark to Hell, where do all these people come from?

Just look around you and you will have your answer.  There are billions on this planet right now, and only a very small percentage are saved.