pot

[Absolem]

Being drunk is very different from being high.

[Running Gator]

30 minutes ago, Absolem said:

Being drunk is very different from being high.

No it is not.  Both are altered states of your mind in which you  are no longer in control of yourself, and the Holy Spirit is no longer able to influence you or your actions

[Zemke]

16 hours ago, Absolem said:

Being drunk is very different from being high.

 

In the type of buzz sure. Once I was saved any time I would fall to the temptation when that warm smell would be passed my way I experienced the flip side of the mellow buzz. All I would want to do is not be buzzed anymore and talk myself through it.  Whole new weed experience and I just didn't like my head being like that.

When I'm sitting around with family or friends with no responsibility I'm fine to have a beer but ambition is what's sacrificed. I don't really care about anything when I get a little beer buzz and weed makes me paraniod. So I'm blessed in that way, I stay away.

My best friend was a weedaholic and a car jacking/near death experience got him on prescription mind drugs, injury got him into prescription pain meds and more injury into oxy and eventually he couldn't see his value as a person and sank into a hole where "the world will be better without me, I'm no use or good to humanity." He eventually shut off communication and a month later we all got the call. Sad stuff. He wasn't a smoker but now and then he would bum a hit off of someone just to get a buzz. He liked the buzz from anything almost and willies he would call them off  mixes of meds.

We are not in our right minds when we are high off weed or drunk off drink. No matter what we think, we are idiots, we just don't know it. When an alchoholic is able to see how much of an idiot he is to himself, others and the ones he loves it's actually the day he walks away from the booze. And many times they see it because of the Holy Spirit. They either repent and ask Jesus to be Lord or they find a bar stool and become worse. We never stay the same, it's better or worse.

These things grab us and keep us from being who we are and what we can be. It's actually a selfish titilation to chase a buzz and has nothing to do with anything else. "Seekers of pleasure rather than seekers of God" So be selfish and prideful and light it up. But ask God what He thinks. Our opinions are but opinions. Hearing from God is much different.

 

[Absolem]

8 hours ago, Running Gator said:

No it is not.  Both are altered states of your mind in which you  are no longer in control of yourself, and the Holy Spirit is no longer able to influence you or your actions

Drugs are stronger than God?

[Running Gator]

5 hours ago, Absolem said:

Drugs are stronger than God?

Of course drugs are not stronger than God, but God is not a puppet master, He will let you make your own choices.  If you choose to let a drug control you vice listening to the Holy Spirit, God will not stop you.

[warrior12]

I smoked pot for a long time for about twenty years, and drank alcohol, mostly beers and smoked cigarettes.   In the Caribbean, the pot is natural and potent.  I liked my habits before i was saved, but the two cannot mix, just like you cannot serve God and mammon.   This body is the temple of God and nothing that alters the natural state should be allowed to enter, except for medical reasons.   I have not touched any of the stuffed i used since i am born again and does not miss one aspect of it.  Yes the memories of some having so called good times with friends are still there, and while it is entertaining, it was foolish.    

As  a recovering drug addict, my humble advice would be to stay away from those who uses for a while, until your body adjust to the naturally.   Then with the power of the Holy Spirit, you will resist every temptation that will come to draw you back into the same old.  You will then be able to sit with your friends and be a testimony to Jesus Christ.

[Neighbor]

18 hours ago, Absolem said:

I'm a recovering drug addict/schitzophrenic. I love Jesus. I don't sleep around or look at porn but I do still smoke pot from time to time. I don't really see a problem with it but what do you think?

Problem? Sure there is a problem! The problem is being discussed and debated over across much of the USA! Legal - illegal, and what can be done anyway ,because  it is hard to arrest and confine everyone involved. New laws, new concepts, are being tried at various States. But to date all use of Pot is illegal at the entirety  of the USA  as it is against federal USA law.

 On a practical level; it is  a product sold by gangs that kill people  in order to control their market. That is a serious problem. The gangs are enriched and enabled by the consumers of their products. 

So as a consumer of pot one is participating in an illegal enterprise. One that involves murder of adults and children.  So problem? Yes there is a problem,.  You are evidently still part of it. For, you already say  you are recovering from other  illegal drug use, yet you don't see a problem, in  just switching products being used. PROBLEM!  It is the problem, for you, and for the community that you live in,  the most serious problem any community faces, as the consumer/user enriches and enables murderers that traffic in the pot and all illegal products. They are gang members, they are illegals, they are killers if need be, in order to control their market.

 Yep there is a problem.

 

There is also  the solution. Prayer, reading the Bible, thinking, and more prayer plus  action taken to abruptly change from sin against God to living Godly instead. It can be done by God's mercy and will over  each of us it can be done.

May many pray for your full  abrupt recovery; May you be given the strength and the mercy  from our creator via the Holy Spirit to  truly overcome your weakness to sin against God. The sin of  using substances that take you away from full awareness of the joy of life that  is in service to our lord Jesus. May you find peace without drugging yourself in any way. Amen.

[Littlelambseativy]

Any substance that in anyway alters your actions or thought process is not good even if legal. Slowing reaction time when doing any task or driving while under the influence. But, the greatest harm is when you do smoke, a new Christian or an unsaved person sees you smoking and thinks it is OK, thus ruining your witness of a godly Christian life. They being weaker do not stop at one but try other drugs letting Satan have his way in their lives and mind and soul.

[FresnoJoe]

18 hours ago, Running Gator said:

You should never get high, that is akin to getting drunk....
Neither are good and both are against God's word and will for us....

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18 hours ago, Absolem said:

Scripture then....

Scripture

Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walks about, seeking whom he may devour: 1 Peter 5:8 (American King James Version)

Then

"Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. Matthew 24:42 (New International Version)

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Be Blessed Beloved Of The KING

The LORD bless thee, and keep thee:
The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee:
The LORD lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace.

And they shall put my name upon the children of Israel; and I will bless them. Numbers 6:24-27 (King James Bible)

Love, Your Brother Joe

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Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever. Psalms 119:160 (King James Bible)

The Bible contains the mind of God, the state of man, the way of salvation, the doom of sinners, and the happiness of believers. Its doctrines are holy, its precepts are binding, its histories are true, and its decisions are immutable.

Read it to be wise, believe it to be safe, and practice it to be holy. It contains light to direct you, food to support you, and comfort to cheer you.

It is the traveler’s map, the pilgrim’s staff, the pilot’s compass, the soldier’s sword and the Christian’s charter. Here too, Heaven is opened and the gates of Hell disclosed.

Christ is its grand subject, our good its design, and the glory of God its end. It should fill the memory, rule the heart and guide the feet. Read it slowly, frequently and prayerfully.  It is a mine of wealth, a paradise of glory, and a river of pleasure.

It is given you in life, will be opened at the judgment, and be remembered forever. It involves the highest responsibility, rewards the greatest labor, and will condemn all who trifle with its sacred contents.

From The Inside Of My Gideon New Testament

[OneLight]

More scripture:

Romans 12:1-2 "I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, which is your reasonable service. And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God."

1 Corinthians 6:19-20 "Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own?  For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are God’s."

Addictions are tough to overcome, some more than others.  The goal is to be like Christ.