healing

[Limey_Bob]

11 minutes ago, Behold said:

I think the bible refers to this as a "spirit of infirmity".

Study =  Luke 13: 10-17

Satan was bound at the cross, although demons still exist today, their influence is nothing like in Jesus' day and so most illnesses today are caused by medical issues not by demons.

[OneLight]

9 minutes ago, Limey_Bob said:

Satan was bound at the cross, although demons still exist today, their influence is nothing like in Jesus' day and so most illnesses today are caused by medical issues not by demons.

I find in scripture that Satan was defeated at the cross, but not bound.  That will not happen until after the tribulation where he will be in chains and placed in the bottomless pit.

[Limey_Bob]

1 minute ago, OneLight said:

I find in scripture that Satan was defeated at the cross, but not bound.  That will not happen until after the tribulation where he will be in chains and placed in the bottomless pit.

Yes onelight, DEFEATED at the cross, thank you for the wise correction.

[simplejeff]

On 5/30/2017 at 6:02 PM, Ghostdog said:

should one ask God to heal, command healing or get elders to put hands on?

YLT

and wherever he was going, to villages, or cities, or fields, in the market-places they were laying the infirm, and were calling upon him, that they may touch if it were but the fringe of his garment, and as many as were touching him were saved.

TLV
And wherever He entered villages, towns, or countryside, people were placing the sick in the marketplaces and begging Him to let them touch even the tzitzit of His garment—and all who touched it were being healed.

 

As shown in Ephesians, everyone posting was once subject to the prince of the power of the air , the devil, 

thus everyone posting was once deceived by demons, not just influenced, but completely 'in the dark', unsaved, unclean, until redeemed....   Most all of the world,  not just a little, is still deceived, although they truly believe and think they are making their own decisions they cannot - as written,  they are still blind and in the dark.

Whenever Jesus healed someone ,  they were healed.   Completely.   'Inside out' you might say... freed from the demons/ satan's deception.

As an example of how far mankind, including the whole usa, has fallen into terribly wicked sin and continuing darkness,

research and see how important perfect teeth were to the Israelites.   And how rare illness was, how rare it was to even have one bad tooth.  

Few places today realize this,  and fewer still , by YHWH'S GRACE, have continually accomplished this, today.

[Behold]

1 hour ago, Limey_Bob said:

Satan was bound at the cross, although demons still exist today, their influence is nothing like in Jesus' day and so most illnesses today are caused by medical issues not by demons.

 

If Satan was bound on the cross, then Paul would not be telling you that a messenger from SATAN was sent to cause him grief. (2nd Corin 12:7)

If Satan was bound on the cross, then Paul would not have told you this....... 1 Corinthians 5:5

If Satan was bound on the cross , then Paul would not have told you this...... 1 Thessalonians  2:18

If Satan was bound on the cross, then James would not have told you this..... James 4:7

Rest assured Limey_Bob that "the devil comes to steal, kill, and destroy" both before the cross and after the resurrection.

The good news is, you have authority as God's Son to deal with the demonic. (Satan).

[simplejeff]

1 hour ago, Behold said:

The good news is, you have authority as God's Son to deal with the demonic. (Satan).

Few people acknowledge demons today.  Of those, few have any power or authority to do anything about it.

As written in Scripture concerning society today:  'witchcraft and sorcery has deceived the whole world'.  (literally, spiritually, socially, mentally, etc )   

See Ephesians 2.

And Revelation (last book of the Bible):  "the whole world refuses to stop (to even think of repenting of) worshiping(serving) demons."  They remain on the wide road , popular road along with society,  to destruction.

[Snow]

5 hours ago, Limey_Bob said:

Excuse me, "demons that cause illness" please explain that?

 

5 hours ago, Limey_Bob said:

Satan was bound at the cross, although demons still exist today, their influence is nothing like in Jesus' day and so most illnesses today are caused by medical issues not by demons.

Hi Limey_Bob..Seems You asked me to explain not so you could understand as much as for argument sake..Not my thing..Please remember this is an open Christian Ministry forum..we represent Jesus..it is about Him not us..

God bless

[Limey_Bob]

On 6/3/2017 at 8:55 PM, Behold said:

 

If Satan was bound on the cross, then Paul would not be telling you that a messenger from SATAN was sent to cause him grief. (2nd Corin 12:7)

If Satan was bound on the cross, then Paul would not have told you this....... 1 Corinthians 5:5

If Satan was bound on the cross , then Paul would not have told you this...... 1 Thessalonians  2:18

If Satan was bound on the cross, then James would not have told you this..... James 4:7

Rest assured Limey_Bob that "the devil comes to steal, kill, and destroy" both before the cross and after the resurrection.

The good news is, you have authority as God's Son to deal with the demonic. (Satan).

I see, so demons lurk under every stone, and no doubt if we send our $1,000 vow of faith to some charismatic TV preacher, then he'll send you by the postal services a 50 cent pray cloth which he has personally prayed over will stop all demonic attacks. Look, evangelical Christianity is making a laughing stock of itself on Christian TV, I personally want nothing to do with such obvious deception by money grabbing televangelists. Satan was so defeated at the cross, that today, he is now limited just like a dog on a long metal chain which has been chained to the ground to a secure metal stake. If you avoid the dog, by staying out of the range of the chain, then the chain prevents the dog from attacking you, it can bark but not bite, but if you decide to go within the range of the dog and stand right next to it, then by your decision he can attack you. i.e. if you decide to play with the Ouija board or dabble in the occult, then satan can attack you today. However, the idea that demons lurk under every stone, and that satan causes your back problem is just typically silly evangelical nonsense. 

 

 

 

[simplejeff]

Thus satan remains the acknowledged deceiver of the whole world.

[Sower]

 

He blinds the minds of the lost.............

2Co 4:3  But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost,  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.