Comparing the brains of two 3 year olds who were treated differently

[simplejeff]

2 Timothy 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof

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holding to a form of godliness, although they have denied its power; Avoid such men as ... the outward appearance of religion but will have repudiated its power.

[Omegaman 3.0]

I have not read the whole article carefully, nor all the posts, but the quick glance raises a question for me, maybe I missed something, but . . . 

For images of those two brains to be used for valid comparisons, let alone making guesses about cause and effect, but . . . 

Wouldn't you have to have used the brains of identical twins, exposed to exactly the same conditions of diet, drugs, diseases, exercise, experiences and other variables, such that the only difference was the parenting?

[Neighbor]

5 hours ago, missmuffet said:

Explain please. How does not healing in this lifetime and Calvinism have in common?

  God is sovereign just as you declared. "If it is God's plan for this child He would heal them." That is the very core of John Calvin's proclamations.

You so often paraphrase or quote John Calvin that I was surprised when you declared you were not into Calvinism some little time ago.

[missmuffet]

13 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

  God is sovereign just as you declared. "If it is God's plan for this child He would heal them." That is the very core of John Calvin's proclamations.

You so often paraphrase or quote John Calvin that I was surprised when you declared you were not into Calvinism some little time ago.

It has nothing to do with Calvinism. You are getting God's grace,mercy and glory confused with Calvinism.

[MorningGlory]

5 hours ago, Omegaman 3.0 said:

I have not read the whole article carefully, nor all the posts, but the quick glance raises a question for me, maybe I missed something, but . . . 

For images of those two brains to be used for valid comparisons, let alone making guesses about cause and effect, but . . . 

Wouldn't you have to have used the brains of identical twins, exposed to exactly the same conditions of diet, drugs, diseases, exercise, experiences and other variables, such that the only difference was the parenting?

I hadn't thought of that but, yes, that would make more sense now that you mention it.  This study is important only because of the vast differences in the two brain scans and it gives us all something to think about.  I think that most parents know that nurture plays a big part in a child's development though.

[Neighbor]

7 hours ago, missmuffet said:

It has nothing to do with Calvinism. You are getting God's grace,mercy and glory confused with Calvinism.

As you wish, but I  found your close paraphrase and near quote of Calvin to be most interesting. So much so that I had to look up Calvin and read how he said it to see any if there was any difference at all.  I thought it might have been a quote of Him.  Anyway back to the topic- 

[Justin Adams]

Peace:

Psycho-Heresy proves little, except that they do not know much and often mislead people.
Medically speaking, there are case studies of identical twins with identical upbringings: One goes off the deep end, the other is a calm well adapted member of society.
They nearly always omit the spiritual component from these studies.

It is sad that kids are thus treated, no doubt. But the Lord's Power is quite able to fix man's issues.

Yeshua came to mend the broken; broken in spirit; broken in mind; broken in body.
The fact that we cannot appropriate these Godly healings is because we lack His Power.
This may in turn lead us to the crutch of medical and especially psycho-dictums.

Medicine is great. God is Greater and uses that.
This does not mean we stand aside and let medicine be our conscience and our fall guy.
So when we say, "God could heal them if He wanted to.."  Well, this could mean that we wash OUR hands of all responsibility and thereby loose our savor.
If the salt looses its savor, what is done with it?

[simplejeff]

5 hours ago, Justin Adams said:

The fact that we cannot appropriate these Godly healings is because we lack His Power.

Who said this ?  Can you prove it from Scripture ?  (a lot of believers do not lack His Power,  and live in line with all Scripture/TORAH/   just the same as Jesus always did, and as He Trained all His disciples, and as they trained others,  right up to today.)

5 hours ago, Justin Adams said:

Medicine is great. God is Greater and uses that.

Test everything, continually, while seeking Yahweh,  for His Kingdom is at hand.

His Word says "pharmakeia will deceive the whole world", and the medical system in the USA is greedy, not righteous.

Yahweh did create the the leaves for healing of the peoples,  and they do. (just have to seek them, and keep seeking, to find them).  i.e. "medicine" from Yahweh is healing,  the opposite from and contrary to man's medical system which is death dealing.

[Justin Adams]

29 minutes ago, simplejeff said:

Who said this ?  Can you prove it from Scripture ?  (a lot of believers do not lack His Power,  and live in line with all Scripture/TORAH/   just the same as Jesus always did, and as He Trained all His disciples, and as they trained others,  right up to today.)

Sadly, it is self evident that a lot of the church lack this power for the reasons you have outlined. That is why they often bow to science rather than Holy Spirit. I know of some that walk in the Power; however, most on here reading this do not have His Power judging by what they say.

Again, I am outlining a lack and maybe causing people to ask, "why do I not have this power?".
The potential for healing is today the same as when Yeshua walked amongst us; and then after Pentecost.

My whole point is that we (the church as a whole) are in sad deficit.
We do not believe and therefore act this healing anymore since we have sold out to science.

 

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[simplejeff]

4 minutes ago, Justin Adams said:

Sadly, it is self evident that a lot of the church lack this power for the reasons you have outlined. That is why they often bow to science rather than Holy Spirit. I know of some that walk in the Power; however, most on here reading this do not have His Power judging by what they say.

Again, I am outlining a lack and maybe causing people to ask, "why do I not have this power?".
The potential for healing is today the same as when Yeshua walked amongst us; and then after Pentecost.

My whole point is that we (the church as a whole) is in sad deficit.
We do not believe and therefore act this healing anymore since we have sold out to science.

 

Amein.    The "truth" is called a lie (by science sold out),  and the lie is published as truth (by science sold out) ....

The Promise of Yahweh (God),  His Word, not man's,  is that anyone who seeks the truth and keeps seeking will find it.  NOT MAYBE, but WILL find the TRUTH.  Not maybe,  no,  no doubt, but they will find it IF THEY KEEP SEEKING..... 

This is emphasized strongly so that those who have been deceived all of their lives may have hope of finding the truth;  so that those who have posted strongly opposed or gently opposed to the truth,  might turn to Yahweh and seek the truth and keep seeking the truth for this is His Great Desire and our Hope and our Prayer. . . .