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1 minute ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

My Lords servant I have some encouraging words for you.   What does hasten mean.   Look it up.

now part of grace is also to be looking and hastening unto the day of the LORD.

like john once said..............EVEN SO LORD COME QUICKLY.     YOU be hoping in that day and don't let a soul ever let you ever feel a bit guilty for it .  ever.

Go back a few pages where I explain what it means.

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2 minutes ago, MyLordsServant said:

We are. We're spreading and making aware Gods will, to those who forgot.

Is that what you doing in this thread?

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17 hours ago, listener24 said:

"knock and the door will be opened to you."

Imagine this unprecedented event.
Christians, from all over the world, 
united physically in congregations,
united virtually through technology,
united spiritually in the Holy Ghost,
praying together with a clear, unified intention: shortening, hastening the Return of the Lord (Peter 3:12, 
Revelation 22:20, Matthew 6:13)
Wouldn’t the Lord be quick, in fulfilling their holy prayer?

“[…] And the Lord said, “Listen to what the unjust judge says. 
And will not God bring about justice for his chosen ones, who cry out to him day and night? Will he keep putting 
them off? I tell you, he will see that they get justice, and quickly. 
However, when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on the earth?”

This is not happening already, but we can make it happen.

SUMMARY 

1 - Brief history of the Church
2 – God wants men to cooperate his plans
3 – The importance of prayer and the Lord’s prayer
4 – The Rapture
5 – While in the world
6 – Warnings
7 – Avoid misconceptions
8 – An unprecedented event

1 - Brief history of the Church

Along the history, many spiritual leaders did not listen to (Matthew 23:9-10)And do not call anyone on earth 'father,' for you have one Father, and he is in heaven.
Nor are you to be called instructors, for you have one Instructor, the Messiah.”

Therefore, it comes as no surprise that many false teachings did spread for centuries. Nor it is a surprise that 
true Christians come to a better understanding of some concepts through centuries, because luckily some of them 
are able to get rid of the false teachings they have received. Indeed, luckily some listened to Matthew 23:9-10. 

Moreover, Jesus said (John 16:12):I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear.
But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he 
will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.Thus, an increasing understanding, founded on the Gospels and never contradicting them, is to be expected 
through history.

2 – God wants men to cooperate his plans

Even though God could do everything alone, by not waiting his followers to align their will to His will, still 
he wants men to decide to cooperate with Him, to proceed in His salvation Plan. 
For those who knows the Scriptures, it’s not needed to quote the countless times in which God waited for men 
to turn to Him, and adhere His plan, before making things happen. Because being a loving Father, he doesn’t 
force His will upon men.

3 – The importance of prayer and the Lord’s prayer

Point 2 on cooperation between God and men, is one of the reasons why Jesus stressed so much the importance 
of prayer. To be short, we only quote some passages, but there are countless ones in the Gospels alone:
(Matthew 7:7) 
“Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.”
(John 16:24)
“Until now you have not asked for anything in my name. Ask and you will receive, and your joy will be complete.”

Of course, we need to make prayers aligned with God’s will. But even if something is already in God’s will, 
it’s really important for us to pray for it, because the Lord don’t want to force his gifts upon us, but want 
us to desire Him. Otherwise, there wouldn’t be any need for any prayer whatsoever. 

Now, what’s the only prayer that the Lord directly taught us? The Lord’s prayer.
Let’s examine some passages:
“your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.”
[…]
“And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one.”

Now, let’s think about it, by knowing the Scriptures. When and how can the Lord completely fulfill these 
requests? Could they be fulfilled while we are still on earth?

4 – The Rapture

It doesn’t take a leap of imagination, to realize that the Lord’s prayer promises will be fully fulfilled only 
with the Rapture and His Second Coming.
[Even the only apparently not messianic request about the “bread”, is translated somewhere as “the bread of 
tomorrow”, thus indicating the bread of the Kingdom.]

Now, it’s not a purpose of this work to choose which interpretation of the Second Coming is more Scriptural. 
Whatever it is, pre/post/multi/anti/tribulation,this is not the point here.

The point is that only in the Last Day, the Lord will fully fulfill the Lord’s prayer requests. 

Now, are we aware of this? Are we, most Christians, praying that prayer with full intention and awareness, 
with the awareness that we are asking the Lord, according to His will, to shorten the days of His coming?
 
It doesn’t seem like this awareness has been fully reached so far, but now the times may be arrived. 
Now this intention can be shared to Christians all over the earth. 

And it’s nothing new, it’s something fully Scriptural (Peter 3:12, Revelation 22:20, Matthew 6:13), 
it’s just a better understanding of the power of our prayer in the name of Jesus. 

We are not predicting the day or the hour, and we’ll never try to do it.

There is no needing of knowing the day nor the our, to ask the Lord to come quick, according to His will. 

How powerful would be this prayer, shouted by all His elects?

What if some wise pastors could be able to share this intention to Christians all over the world, and all 
together we could pray “Come”, and “Deliver us from evil”, with the full understanding that we are asking for 
the Rapture, instead of passively waiting for it? 

This would be an unprecedented event in History, since so far most Christians have passively waited for it

5 – While in the world

Asking for the rapture, doesn’t cut off any obligation for a true Christian life.
Before Jesus returns, we’ll still have the obligation to love everyone, serve other people, improve the 
society, improve ourself, spread the Gospel. All of these commandments are in the Gospel and are immutable. 
At the same time, with this prayer, we clarify our intention to God, we tell Him that we are ready, and it 
is now time for our plans to align with His plans, and that we fully want and responsibly request His return 
for the elects.

6 – Warnings

Unfortunately, there will always be some Christians who don’t really want the Lord to come soon. They are 
not excited at all about Heaven. Exactly like in these Parables:

(Luke 14:15-20)
“When one of those at the table with him heard this, he said to Jesus, “Blessed is the one who will eat 
at the feast in the kingdom of God.”
Jesus replied: “A certain man was preparing a great banquet and invited many guests. At the time of the 
banquet he sent his servant to tell those who had been invited, ‘Come, for everything is now ready.’ “But they 
all alike began to make excuses. The first said, ‘I have just bought a field, and I must go and see it. Please 
excuse me.’ “Another said, ‘I have just bought five yoke of oxen, and I’m on my way to try them out. Please 
excuse me.’ “Still another said, ‘I just got married, so I can’t come.’


(Luke 19:14)
"But his subjects hated him and sent a delegation after him to say, 'We don't want this man to be our king.'

(John 12:43)
“For they loved the praise of men more than the praise of God.”

But other Christians who aspire to Heaven, would have no reason to not pray this prayer. In the worst case, 
it will have no effect. In the best case, how glad we will be, to see the Lord coming quick for us.

7 – Avoid misconceptions

Q: “Does praying the Lord to come quick, mean that we don’t trust His promise that He will come?”
A: “Absolutely not. The Lord knew the future. He knew about the prayers from His elects, and that he wouldn’t 
wait to fulfill them. Exactly as in countless other situations, in which the Lord has waited for men to ask Him 
for what is good. (Matthew 15:21-28). We are sure that His promise will be fulfilled, but we want to be among the 
ones that have aligned with His will and asked Him to fulfill it quickly.”

Q: “Are we forcing the Lord to do something not in His will? Doesn’t He know the Right Time?”
A: “He knows the Right Time, and we don’t know according to which criteria He has decided it. But maybe, 
when He decided it, part of the weight for the decision, came from considering the prayers of His elects 
(Peter 3:12, Revelation 22:20, Matthew 6:13, Luke 18:1-8). Exactly as in other situations, He gave importance 
and weight to the will of his disciples and prophets, when aligned to His will”

Q: “Are Christians praying this prayer exempt to contribute to society, and to spend their lives serving 
others until the Lord come?”
A: “Absolutely not. A real Christian will follow all Jesus words,not only ones about prayer,respect the 
laws of his country, and will spend His life helping other people, so that when the Lord will come, he 
will find him ready.” (Matthew 24:45-51)
“Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them 
meat in due season?Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.
Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods.
But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;
And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;
The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not 
aware of,And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping 
and gnashing of teeth.”

Q: “Will shortening the return of the Lord prevent some people from salvation?”
A: “First off, remember that there will never be a moment on earth in which everyone will be Christian, 
before the rapture. It is not written anywhere. On the contrary, it is written about an increasingly 
diminishing of faith. Moreover, people who haven’t met Christ but are seeking for the Truth in their hearts, 
and are loving their brothers, will be likely raptured too. 
Exactly as some other righteous people like Socrates, will be raised in the last day, while evil people who 
are not seeking for repentance because they don’t have the seed of repentance in their hearts, will be left. 
Therefore, there is no such risk in shortening the day. Otherwise, the Lord wouldn’t have taught us this prayer.”

Q:”What about theological and philosophical implications of the Rapture? Why someone is taken and someone 
else left?”
A: “These are not treated here. They will be treated in other works, and some wise pastors will be able 
to answer this, by following the Scriptures”

8 – An unprecedented event

If most Christian living today will share this intention, and pray together for it, this will be an 
unprecedented even in the history of the world.
If the rapture happened centuries ago, it would have likely remained unexplained and not testified everywhere. 
But nowadays, thanks to technologies and to the Gospel spread everywhere, it will be testified to people of 
all nations, and everyone will know what happened. 

Now, our hope is that some wise pastor, who spent his life in the hope of Jesus’ Return, will actively spread 
this prayer and this intention among other pastors and Christians, so that all of us may be reunited under 
the Lord’s prayer, and pray together, with full intention and understanding and without the usual countless 
distractions and desires:


Our Father, who art in heaven,
hallowed be thy Name, 
thy kingdom come, 
thy will be done, 
on earth as it is in heaven. 

Give us this day the bread of tomorrow. 
And forgive us our trespasses, 
as we forgive those
who trespass against us. 

And lead us not into temptation, 
but deliver us from evil. 

Maranatha. 
Our Lord, come!

maranatha.pdf

And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come. Matthew 24:14

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17 minutes ago, MyLordsServant said:

Go back a few pages where I explain what it means.

Oh i wasn't attacking ya.  i had seen only your reply to that other one .  and was just encouraging you more than ever keep WATCHING ,

i mean what part o this world is our home.   not a bit .  Paul even knew it was far better for him to depart and be with Christ , however it the LORDS WILL be done .

 

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3 minutes ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

Oh i wasn't attacking ya.  i had seen only your reply to that other one .  and was just encouraging you more than ever keep WATCHING ,

i mean what part o this world is our home.   not a bit .  Paul even knew it was far better for him to depart and be with Christ , however it the LORDS WILL be done .

 

I know you weren't. Sorry if my reply seemed sharp :( 

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14 hours ago, shiloh357 said:

No, he would not.   The day of the Lord's return is a set time.  God always operates his schedule, not ours.  If you read the Bible, the Lord's return has to be preceded by the Mark of the Beast, the reign of the Anti-Christ/beast and false prophets, the death and resurrection of the two witnesses, the sealing of the 144,000 evangelists from the 12 tribes, seven trumpet judgments, seven bowl judgments, the martyrdom of the saints saved during the tribulation. 

The Lord is not going to return sooner than He has planned no matter how hard anyone prays or how much unity there is.

A one hundred percent amen.    GOD already knows the day and the hour .   When JESUS was saying the gospel will be preached in all nations and then shall the end be

HE was simply saying it would be preached unto all nations Then the end comes. CAUSE HE KNOWS those things .

By all means we should be preaching the gospel for we desire none to perish.    MOST MISS what you just said and see it the other way around

they think THE LORDS coming is before the mark of the beast , the son of perdtion , the great tribulation.  but no , its after .   its truly is .  When HE

returns it will be to destroy the beast andfalse prophet in a lake of fire and satan gets bound for a thousand years. 

And on that note,  all this unity biz most churches are preaching has nothing to do with the spirit , its unity with the world as one for world peace.   right to this beast it points.

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7 minutes ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

Oh i wasn't attacking ya.  i had seen only your reply to that other one .  and was just encouraging you more than ever keep WATCHING ,

i mean what part o this world is our home.   not a bit .  Paul even knew it was far better for him to depart and be with Christ , however it the LORDS WILL be done .

 

I don't think the idea of this thread is to watch.

It appears that the op was wanting Christians throughout the world to pray for Jesus to come so he would go ahead and come.

I havnt seen anything in this thread about anyone watching which is something Jesus commanded.

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5 minutes ago, MyLordsServant said:

I know you weren't. Sorry if my reply seemed sharp :( 

Be on guard friend.   their is a strong move of false love , false unity all inclusive mindset on the rise , its the delusion that will lead the world

by media and religion right to  the beast .     We preach JESUS only saves. and we preach he aint no minisitir of sin either.  our gospel is not all inclusive

it offends those who reject truth, but those who accept truth will rejoice in it.  but that will be veryfew my friend.  be on guard heavy delusion is rising now.

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      By what you say.  
      Your words are the power of your "tongue" creating your destiny. Every word you speak is a seed being sown, and every seed you sow out of your MOUTH, will come back to you, as a harvest.
      Your NT says that you will be judged by the words that you speak, and this means that your own words will become your judge and your destiny, while you are alive, and when they profess the Faith you have In Christ, ..... God then accepts this as "faith is counted as Righteousness"...= to give you the "Righteousness of Christ" and "The Gift of Salvation".

      There is also the fact that even tho Jesus "has redeemed us from the curse of the law" on the CROSS so that all judgment due us for our sin that was previously waiting for us in Eternity, before we were saved, has been given to HIM...  YET..His death does not remove this problem..= The law of "sowing and reaping". So, you have 2 things to deal with in your life that are word based and deed based, .......harvests.  
      What you speak is a seed, and what you do is a "sowing and reaping" deed situation.
      If you are in the FAITH,..... if you are really focused on discipleship and serving God and studying to show yourself approved and daily live to please God, very God conscience, then you will watch your mouth and you will control your deeds so that you do not bring upon yourself, their bad fruit as a harvest of pain, sorrow, and worse.

      Let me show you how you can get cancer, a heart attack, a stroke, a brain tumor....etc, etc.. just using your own mouth.
      You do it like this....

      """"well, you know, my mama had high blood pressure, mental illness, cancer, diabetes, heart disease, a temper problem, blindness, AND I BET I'LL GET IT TOOOOOO""""".

      SEE THAT? You just prayed the prayer of FAITH to get SICK, and maybe DIE.
      So......Watch your mouth. Your mouth is a POWER to bring to your life, whatever you speak and BELIEVE.
      Or as Jesus said, "whatsover ye believe , you shall have it".
      "thy Faith hath made you whole".
      And your FAITH can make you SICK.

      Saint, ... FAITH can harm you, if you are using it to harm yourself.

      Watch your mouth.
      Never curse yourself with it, or the people you love, etc, etc....
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      Paul teaches that you are to ""examine yourself to see if you are IN the Faith"".  This is similar to the idea of walking IN the Spirit.  If you are not IN the faith, then you are "fallen from Grace".  If you are not walking IN the Spirit, then you are walking IN the Flesh.   All of this is related to, "you are not UNDER the Law, but UNDER Grace.
       Walking in the Spirit, means you are walking in the Law of Grace.  You are "under" it.  When you are walking in the "flesh", you are "under the curse of the law".  Now, if you are born again, you can't actually ever again be under the curse of the Law. And this is because Christ has redeemed you from the curse of the law, as it is written "cursed is everyone who hangs on the Tree". But with respect to what you BELIEVE, you can put yourself out of the Spirit and into the Flesh by no longer believing that Christ keeps you saved.  Moving from Spirit (belief) to (flesh) unbelief, happens when a born again person is no longer trusting in Christ to Keep Them Saved.  Paul describes this as "falling FROM Grace"...into the Flesh.  When this happens to a born again person, their faith is "dead".
      How to understand this perfectly?   = Grace: is Jesus saving you.   Flesh: is you trying to keep yourself saved.
      Walking in the Spirit is walking in the Grace of God, as fully understood and BELIEVED.   Walking in the flesh, is falling away from faith in Christ to keep you saved, and you have now become your own savior, and you yourself are trying to keep yourself saved.
      Some of you think that walking in the Spirit means that you are living a holy life.   And that walking in the flesh means you are living in sin, or sinning a lot. But what that scripture says is that " you won't fulfill the lusts of your flesh if you walk in the Spirit".  Understand that the power to stop sinning is God's Grace working in you.  And what causes you to sin is to be away from Grace and into your own SELF Resistance of your carnal desires, and when you are there,  you'll fail every time.  Its only God's Grace that gives you the Power to stop sinning.  So, when you are fallen from Grace, you are literally at the mercy of your own strong fleshly urges, and you are going to fall and fall and fall into "works of the FLESH".....sin.    Did you ever read that verse that says, "God will give you the desires of your heart"?   And maybe you were taught that this means....> If you stay true and faithful then all the stuff you want, you can have it?  Well, not quite. This verse is actually teaching you that God will put new desires in your heart, Holy Desires, Holiness Desires, HIS Desires.  He will remake your heart to have the desires that God wants in there..... He is giving them to you.... He is replacing your carnal heart desires with NEW desires ....... HIS.
      Back to this now......
      The Truth is.... that  walking in the full understanding of the Grace of God, ....this LIGHT..... is to be walking in the Spirit which is actually the very same thing as "walking in the Light".... and when you are not doing this, when you are instead trying to keep yourself saved,  then you have stopped trusting in Christ, your faith is dead because  you have moved from spirit to flesh and you are walking in the darkness.   You have mentally shifted from heart faith in Christ, to head faith in yourself.  From Light to dark.    From Spirit to flesh.
      You  are flesh.  And the Spirit, is the Holy Spirit.   They are not the same.    When you are walking "in Christ", in THE real Faith, then you are "walking in the spirit" and "walking in the Light"..  See.... The Light is Truth, and Jesus is THE Truth. So, when you are believing correctly, you are walking in the Truth, in the Spirit, in the LIGHT,   And when you are not believing correctly, you are walking in the flesh, and in the dark.
      When your faith has shifted from faith in Christ alone to keep you saved, to faith in yourself to stay saved....=  to work, endure, keep commandments, keep the Torah, keep yourself holy..... When all THAT and more is what you are trusting in to keep you saved, then your faith has shifted from what Christ DID For You, to what you are now DOING for yourself.   Your faith in Him, is dead.   You have become your own savior.  You are in the FLESH.  The flesh has become your truth and your faith.  There is no Light in the flesh.
      Paul says to EXAMINE yourself to see if you are IN the Faith.
      So here is the test.  And be honest with yourself when you think about this.... as God already knows the answer, Saint.
      How do you find out if you are fallen from Grace and are in the flesh, or walking in the Spirit and The Light ?
       
      = Answer this.  :    What are you trusting , right now, to keep you out of HELL. ??
        Now, Listen, i didnt ask you what you are trusting to get you into heaven.
       
      See,  What  you are trusting to keep you out of Hell, is going to show you what you are trusting in, truthfully, 100%.  Its your literal  Faith examination.
      Here is the answer=  if you are fallen from grace and are NOT walking in the Spirit.
      "i am trusting in Christ, BUT........"
      "i am trusting in Christ ,...........BUT".
      "im an trusting in Christ.,.......BUT".
      Now do you see that "but"?........That ADD ON,  is your  current savior.  Its all that you will tell us that you have to do so that you dont Go To HELL, as long as you keep on doing it........ but if you stop, you will go to Hell.
      Now let me show you a few false Saviors that are on your list, ....some of you..
       
      1. "enduring to the end".    And i ask you, did enduring to the end, hang on a Cross for you to Save you and keep you saved?    
      2. "Not living in sin".  And i ask you, did not living in sin, hang on a Cross for you to SAVE you and keep you saved?
      3. "obey the Torah"........So, i ask you, did obeying the Torah hang on a Cross to Save you and keep you saved?
      4. "keeping the commandments, and being obedient".......  So, i ask you, did keeping the commandments and being obedient, hang on a Cross to Save you and keep you saved?
      5. "being water baptized".....  So, i ask you, did being water baptized hang on a Cross to save you and keep you saved?   Did the dying Thief on the Cross who believed on Jesus, and went to Heaven......was he water baptized after he died on the Cross?
      6. "holding onto my faith".... So, i ask you, did  holding onto your faith, hang on a Cross to save you and keep you saved?
       
      So, did any on that list DIE FOR YOUR SIN or pay for them all?   = NO.   And that is because none of those can save you or keep you saved.  None of them is a SAVIOR.  And its only THE SAVIOR who can get you into heaven and keep you out of hell.
      See it?  = Who is that?
      So, what are you trusting in to keep you out of HELL?   Is it in that list?  Is it in another list?   If so, you are fallen from grace and have another Savior, and your faith is dead because are not walking in The Light, as Jesus is The Light and THE SAVIOR .
      If you are walking in the Spirit, then your only answer has to be ..."Jesus saved me, and Jesus KEEPS ME SAVED", = out of Hell.
      Thats Faith.  Thats walking in the Spirit.  Thats walking IN the Light, as all this is based on what you BELIEVE.    And that is how you examine yourself to find out if you are IN the Faith, or "fallen from Grace".
       
       
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