Question for Torah Law Keepers

[Heleadethme]

12 hours ago, MyLordsServant said:

I'm looking into keeping the Torah, but it comes with it's issues.

How much of America is left after this law is kept?

12 If thou shalt hear say in one of thy cities, which the LORD thy God hath given thee to dwell there, saying, 13 Certain men, the children of Belial, are gone out from among you, and have withdrawn the inhabitants of their city, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which ye have not known; 14 Then shalt thou inquire, and make search, and ask diligently; and, behold, if it be truth, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought among you; 15 Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword. 16 And thou shalt gather all the spoil of it into the midst of the street thereof, and shalt burn with fire the city, and all the spoil thereof every whit, for the LORD thy God: and it shall be an heap for ever; it shall not be built again. 17 And there shall cleave nought of the cursed thing to thine hand: that the LORD may turn from the fierceness of his anger, and shew thee mercy, and have compassion upon thee, and multiply thee, as he hath sworn unto thy fathers; 18 When thou shalt hearken to the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep all his commandments which I command thee this day, to do that which is right in the eyes of the LORD thy God.

Problem is when folks say they want to keep the Law........it depends on how they mean it......what spirit they are of.  Whatsoever is not of FAITH..........is sin.  There is coming a day when the true righteous will be persecuted in our lands and our persecutors will think they are doing God's will......so it no doubt will be on the basis of some of those kinds of scriptures.  God's word sure does test hearts.

[frienduff thaylorde]

1 hour ago, Heleadethme said:

Problem is when folks say they want to keep the Law........it depends on how they mean it......what spirit they are of.  Whatsoever is not of FAITH..........is sin.  There is coming a day when the true righteous will be persecuted in our lands and our persecutors will think they are doing God's will......so it no doubt will be on the basis of some of those kinds of scriptures.  God's word sure does test hearts.

THEY SURE WILL THINK THEY DO GODS WILL for world peace and unity when they have many true beleievers carted out and killed under their laws

thinking they are the JUDGE of the law for world peace .   And yes our churches even as well as the world are being groomed into this acceptance

not only for world peace  but on eliminating those who wont bend to it.  tis the scapegoat syndrome.

What began as jews are the ills of the german nation ended with the death of over six million

What do we REALLY suppose will be the result of a mindset which is not for any one nation but all nations of the world

and the concept that any who resist this are in the way of Gods plan, in the way and ills of the worlds peace .

A number greater than six million will die under this coming anti Christ.    a clue. WHEN MAN,  and the key is MAN

when man starts preaching a focus on PEACE.................FLEE it....................never once has it not ended in blood.   and this time will be no different

only a number so high this time it cant be numbered.     Why we think the jews , muslims and christains main three are coming in unity through interfaith

and heavily in the jewish side is the coming messiah for world peace .    Certain laws will be seen as good amongst them all as wellas the world

and no it wont be about being HOLY.............it will be laws about ridding the earth of what they deem as the heathen and godless.   

no , not the atheists,   BUT THOSE WHO DO NOT CONFORM to this intefaiht all world inclusive for world peace mindset.

AKA...........the lambs of GOD .      WORLD PEACE AND SAFETY.    should be said , IF they were honest.  WORLD POWER and CONTROL.  but we know they aint honest .

[frienduff thaylorde]

I truly pray that none go under the false holy spirit fire that Kenneth claims GOD himself will bring in twenty eighteen.

All I keep remember are these words .   AND if the prophet has been deceived , I THE LORD GOD has deceived that prophet.  KENNY is decieved

and the fire he speaks of coming in twenty eighteen,   well lets just say it was the FIRE that Aarons sons played with ........STRANGE FIRE .   and it wont end well

for those who play with that .

[HarvestLabourer]

14 hours ago, MyLordsServant said:

How much of America is left after this law is kept?

12 If thou shalt hear say in one of thy cities, which the LORD thy God hath given thee to dwell there, saying, 13 Certain men, the children of Belial, are gone out from among you, and have withdrawn the inhabitants of their city, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which ye have not known; 14 Then shalt thou inquire, and make search, and ask diligently; and, behold, if it be truth, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought among you; 15 Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword. 16 And thou shalt gather all the spoil of it into the midst of the street thereof, and shalt burn with fire the city, and all the spoil thereof every whit, for the LORD thy God: and it shall be an heap for ever; it shall not be built again. 17 And there shall cleave nought of the cursed thing to thine hand: that the LORD may turn from the fierceness of his anger, and shew thee mercy, and have compassion upon thee, and multiply thee, as he hath sworn unto thy fathers; 18 When thou shalt hearken to the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep all his commandments which I command thee this day, to do that which is right in the eyes of the LORD thy God.

Thank you, for your question, LordsServant. 

All of America is still left.
What we are observing is what is left of the cities, after God has smited them.

Even so, praise the Lord
Paul

My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge:
because they have rejected knowledge, I will also reject them,
that they shalt be not priests to Me:
seeing they have forgotten the law of their God,
I will also forget their children.
Hosea 4:6

[Neighbor]

4 hours ago, shiloh357 said:

No, there are 613 commandments in the written Torah.   Those 613 were given by God to Moses.   The rabbinic laws were developed thousands of years later.

May refer you to : http://www.jewfaq.org/torah.htm

[Neighbor]

4 hours ago, shiloh357 said:

No, there are 613 commandments in the written Torah.   Those 613 were given by God to Moses.   The rabbinic laws were developed thousands of years later.

May refer you to : http://www.jewfaq.org/torah.htm

[Guest shiloh357]

7 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

May refer you to : http://www.jewfaq.org/torah.htm

None of that contradicts what I said.   Look at how many times, "and the Lord said..."   occur in the Torah.   God established and commanded the Festivals, he gave the dietary laws, and the sacrificial system and the hygiene laws and the commands against sexual immorality, idolatry and so on.  All of that came from God, if you bother to actually read your Bible.

[Neighbor]

4 minutes ago, shiloh357 said:

None of that contradicts what I said.   Look at how many times, "and the Lord said..."   occur in the Torah.   God established and commanded the Festivals, he gave the dietary laws, and the sacrificial system and the hygiene laws and the commands against sexual immorality, idolatry and so on.  All of that came from God, if you bother to actually read your Bible.

It is of no consequence what you or I think, as the opening thread makes some statements that requires information on what He thinks, not you, nor I.

If you want to debate Tanakh, Torah written Law, Oral Law, Jewish law, Karaite interpretation, Kabbalah Jewish mysticism, Rabbinic tradition, why not open your own thread on the subject? My only interest here is about what the thread opener is stating.

[angels4u]

2 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

It is of no consequence what you or I think, as the opening thread makes some statements that requires information on what He thinks, not you, nor I.

If you want to debate Tanakh, Torah written Law, Oral Law, Jewish law, Karaite interpretation, Kabbalah Jewish mysticism, Rabbinic tradition, why not open your own thread on the subject? My only interest here is about what the thread opener is stating.

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Just now, shiloh357 said:

Just correcting your misinformation.  I am right and you are wrong. It doesn't do the OP any good if you give him information that is incorrect.   So it is of consequence.

Shiloh , it would be interesting if you would make a thread to discuss :

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If you want to debate Tanakh, Torah written Law, Oral Law, Jewish law, Karaite interpretation, Kabbalah Jewish mysticism, Rabbinic tradition, why not open your own thread on the subject? My only interest here is about what the thread opener is stating.

 

 

[inchrist]

On 02/12/2017 at 7:17 AM, MyLordsServant said:

I'm looking into keeping the Torah, but it comes with it's issues.

How much of America is left after this law is kept?

12 If thou shalt hear say in one of thy cities, which the LORD thy God hath given thee to dwell there, saying, 13 Certain men, the children of Belial, are gone out from among you, and have withdrawn the inhabitants of their city, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which ye have not known; 14 Then shalt thou inquire, and make search, and ask diligently; and, behold, if it be truth, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought among you; 15 Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword. 16 And thou shalt gather all the spoil of it into the midst of the street thereof, and shalt burn with fire the city, and all the spoil thereof every whit, for the LORD thy God: and it shall be an heap for ever; it shall not be built again. 17 And there shall cleave nought of the cursed thing to thine hand: that the LORD may turn from the fierceness of his anger, and shew thee mercy, and have compassion upon thee, and multiply thee, as he hath sworn unto thy fathers; 18 When thou shalt hearken to the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep all his commandments which I command thee this day, to do that which is right in the eyes of the LORD thy God.

I dont see any issues.

Even Paul agrees

Romans 1:32

Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death.

By law we are commanded to kill those who committee apostasy but lucky for them Christ takes their punishment.

And this is what you are commanded to do: Tell them they deserve to be put to death but thank God, Christ has taken their place, hence the Good news.

However continual rejection of the good news is going to turn into very bad news, hence Revelation and their slaughter according to the law.