Possible End Time Timeline (a bit different)

[Spock]

I invite all comments, pro and con, and I especially invite you showing me through scripture where you believe I am in error, if you believe that. I do not claim to have all the answers, but like you, I’m seeking and searching for them like faithful Bereans. 

 I will try  to consider and mesh both Daniels final 7 year period that has been prophesied pursuant to Daniel 9 and the book of Revelation End time events which only talks about a 3.5 year period, known as the GREAT TRIBULATION. 

Let me preface my timeline with this: I believe it is possible the four horsemen of the apocalypse (first four Seals) have been opened and have ridden already. I believe it is possible that began as soon as Yeshua (Jesus) entered Heaven on His ascension from earth. (Rev 5)  I see the rider of the first horse, the spirit of antichrist, going forth throughout the world which I see immediately beginning after Jesus left.

Timeline In chronological order:

1. I see the final seven year period that Daniel prophesied will begin with some sort of peace treaty or covenant being made with the many (Israel included).  I believe, but not dogmatic, that the two witnesses of Rev 11 will make their appearance in Jerusalem at this time and will preach the Word for 3.5 years. The two witnesses will be Enoch, Elijah, or Moses, two of this three. 

2. This will allow for Israel to rebuild their Temple (FYI, I do not believe it will be on the Temple Mount, but rather in the City of David, just South of the Temple Mount.)

3. There will be relative calmness in the Middle East and the world as a result of this treaty for about 3 years.

4. Very close to the 3.5 year mark, the RAPTURE....very unexpected and sudden. Be ready Saints! I believe this group of people is represented in Rev 7: 9-17 and I don’t think it is coincidental this scene takes place BEFORE the Trumpet Judgments of Rev 8. 

5.At the midpoint of the 7 years, the Man of sin (the Beast, known as the antichrist) will make his move to be worshipped and set himself up in the rebuilt Temple to proclaim such. The ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION IS HERE.  This now begins the time period known as the Great Tribulation= 1260 Days, 3.5 years, time, times, and a half. 

6. The 6th seal begins right at this moment. God is not happy with this abomination and shows his anger both here on earth (large earthquake) and cosmic signs in the heavenlies.

7. The Faithful remnant Jews (1/3) flee to the Mountains, I think in Bosrah, Jordan. 

8. The Trumpet Judgments begin shortly after the Abomination 

9. The 144,000 Jews will also be evangelizing hard during this time. 

10. The Bowl judgments follow the Trumpets, obviously in that final 3.5 year period (GT)

11. The nations will meet at Armageddon (I am not sure if this is also called the Gog/Magog War of Ezekiel 38/39, and not sure if Gog=Beast.) just before the return of  Yeshua right at the end of the 70th week.

12. Christ comes back with his saints and kicks some booty.  (FYI, The Saints immediately went up from the Rapture to the Bema Judgment for their rewards and the Marriage Supper.)  The Beast and the False Prophet are thrown into the Lake of Fire and Satan is bound for 1000 years in the Abyss. 

13. Sheep and Goat Judgment- the sheep repopulate earth, goats are judged guilty and Removed

14. Christ sets up his Millenial Kingdom for 1000 yrs

15. Satan loosed, does his thing again rallying the unbelievers, Fire from Heaven devours them, Satan now thrown into Lake of Fire to be reunited with Beast and False Prophet

16. New Heaven and New Earth (might be a renewed Earth)

 

Obviously this is not all encompassing, but I think it says enough to generate thought and I’ve probably said enough for now. So, let me have it. 

Thanks.

spock

 

Edited December 29, 2017 by Spock

[Shilohsfoal]

So you think God will start killing people ,men,women and children because a man will stand in a building and claim he is God?

Where is the logic in this Spock?

http://biblehub.com/daniel/11-31.htm

First of all let me point out,its not a man who places the abomination that causes desolation.It's a military."ARMS"!!!!!!.

Now ,we know Spock is known for using logic.Let me ask you this.What can a military place in an area or location causing that area to become desolate,without habitants?

That object that a millitary uses is the abomination that causes desolation and it does cause the earth to quake.

Logic is a wonderful thing if you use it.

[Spock]

43 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

So you think God will start killing people ,men,women and children because a man will stand in a building and claim he is God?

Where is the logic in this Spock?

http://biblehub.com/daniel/11-31.htm

First of all let me point out,its not a man who places the abomination that causes desolation.It's a military."ARMS"!!!!!!.

Now ,we know Spock is known for using logic.Let me ask you this.What can a military place in an area or location causing that area to become desolate,without habitants?

That object that a millitary uses is the abomination that causes desolation and it does cause the earth to quake.

Logic is a wonderful thing if you use it.

Hey, first off, thanks for reading and thanks for sharing your thoughts.

Now  regarding God’s Judgment....I didn’t write the Bible. The Trumpet Judgments and Bowl judgements are not out of my head. 

I’m curious.....why would you think the WRATH of God is going to be a good thing? Yeah, people will die. Don’t forget the purpose of this wrath....to judge unbelievers and to purge Israel from its unfaithfulness. 

As for the Abomination of Desolation, I believe this happened once before, Antiochus Epiphines around 165 BC, is a foreshadow of the Antichrist doing pretty much the same thing. That wasn’t an army. Neither will this be. 

[Shilohsfoal]

http://biblehub.com/daniel/11-31.htm

Who does it say takes away the sacrifice and places the abomination that causes desolation in this verse.

A man or "arms"?

You can lie and say it's a man.Or you can be honest and say they as in the "arms" that stand on his part.

 

 

 

[Marilyn C]

7 hours ago, Spock said:

I invite all comments, pro and con, and I especially invite you showing me through scripture where you believe I am in error, if you believe that. I do not claim to have all the answers, but like you, I’m seeking and searching for them like faithful Bereans. 

 

12. Christ comes back with his saints and kicks some booty.  (FYI, The Saints immediately went up from the Rapture to the Bema Judgment for their rewards and the Marriage Supper.)  The Beast and the False Prophet are thrown into the Lake of Fire and Satan is bound for 1000 years in the Abyss. 

13. Sheep and Goat Judgment- the sheep repopulate earth, goats are judged guilty and Removed

14. Christ sets up his Millenial Kingdom for 1000 yrs

15. Satan loosed, does his thing again rallying the unbelievers, Fire from Heaven devours them, Satan now thrown into Lake of Fire to be reunited with Beast and False Prophet

So, let me have it. 

Thanks.

spock

 

Hi Spock,

Great to chat with you again, bro. Now it must be holidays as you have come again to visit us and stir the `little grey cells` as Poirot (Agatha`s famous detective) would say. So...you know me I like to get the details clear of what and why you (or others) believe such & such. Now I do agree with a lot of what you say, however I will hone in on a very important point - where we are in the millennium.

So dear bro, where do you thing Jesus and His Body is during the millennium. It is not quite clear from your OP.

regards, your sis, Marilyn. 

[Spock]

19 minutes ago, Marilyn C said:

Hi Spock,

Great to chat with you again, bro. Now it must be holidays as you have come again to visit us and stir the `little grey cells` as Poirot (Agatha`s famous detective) would say. So...you know me I like to get the details clear of what and why you (or others) believe such & such. Now I do agree with a lot of what you say, however I will hone in on a very important point - where we are in the millennium.

So dear bro, where do you thing Jesus and His Body is during the millennium. It is not quite clear from your OP.

regards, your sis, Marilyn. 

Hi my dear sister, Marilyn.  I’m going to be honest with you here....I haven’t put much thought or study in the Millenial Kingdom. Honestly, I don’t really have a clue what our role will be during that time. I believe those in the first resurrection pursuant to Rev 20:4 (martyrs) will be ruling with Him during this time. As for what will the body of Christ or the Faithful Jewish believers from before Christ .....not sure. 

Have you started a thread on that? If so, I’ll go visit it and get wisdom. 

Love in Christ,

Brother Spock

[Marilyn C]

21 hours ago, Spock said:

Hi my dear sister, Marilyn.  I’m going to be honest with you here....I haven’t put much thought or study in the Millenial Kingdom. Honestly, I don’t really have a clue what our role will be during that time. I believe those in the first resurrection pursuant to Rev 20:4 (martyrs) will be ruling with Him during this time. As for what will the body of Christ or the Faithful Jewish believers from before Christ .....not sure. 

Have you started a thread on that? If so, I’ll go visit it and get wisdom. 

Love in Christ,

Brother Spock

Hi Spock,

Yes I have thought of preparing some notes on the REAL millennium, for people have either been taught that it is like the new earth, or that `in the world`s eyes` like `mad max` (not that I`ve seen it but heard like after a nuclear fall out) So it would be good to actually see what God`s word says regarding it. Even if we aren`t there, it is important to KNOW the Lord His character and His purposes (for all) for us to come to the unity of the faith, what we believe of the Lord.

The Lord has written much in His word that is of His purposes and that brings a deep understanding of Him, not just a selfish - well it`s not about me so it doesn`t matter, type of thinking, or it`s not about salvation therefore it doesn`t matter - and like the lemons (? lemmings, corrected by SisterActs2, thanks) many `saved,` run head long over the cliff of error not really knowing where they are going.)

`To know Him,` as the Apostle Paul so deeply desired, mean more than a superficial knowledge, but actually know WHY and WHAT He is doing.

regards, Marilyn. 

[ghtan]

13 hours ago, Spock said:

I invite all comments, pro and con, and I especially invite you showing me through scripture where you believe I am in error, if you believe that. I do not claim to have all the answers, but like you, I’m seeking and searching for them like faithful Bereans. 

 I will try  to consider and mesh both Daniels final 7 year period that has been prophesied pursuant to Daniel 9 and the book of Revelation End time events which only talks about a 3.5 year period, known as the GREAT TRIBULATION. 

Let me preface my timeline with this: I believe it is possible the four horsemen of the apocalypse (first four Seals) have been opened and have ridden already. I believe it is possible that began as soon as Yeshua (Jesus) entered Heaven on His ascension from earth. (Rev 5)  I see the rider of the first horse, the spirit of antichrist, going forth throughout the world which I see immediately beginning after Jesus left.

Timeline In chronological order:

1. I see the final seven year period that Daniel prophesied will begin with some sort of peace treaty or covenant being made with the many (Israel included).  I believe, but not dogmatic, that the two witnesses of Rev 11 will make their appearance in Jerusalem at this time and will preach the Word for 3.5 years. The two witnesses will be Enoch, Elijah, or Moses, two of this three. 

2. This will allow for Israel to rebuild their Temple (FYI, I do not believe it will be on the Temple Mount, but rather in the City of David, just South of the Temple Mount.)

3. There will be relative calmness in the Middle East and the world as a result of this treaty for about 3 years.

4. Very close to the 3.5 year mark, the RAPTURE....very unexpected and sudden. Be ready Saints! I believe this group of people is represented in Rev 7: 9-17 and I don’t think it is coincidental this scene takes place BEFORE the Trumpet Judgments of Rev 8. 

5.At the midpoint of the 7 years, the Man of sin (the Beast, known as the antichrist) will make his move to be worshipped and set himself up in the rebuilt Temple to proclaim such. The ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION IS HERE.  This now begins the time period known as the Great Tribulation= 1260 Days, 3.5 years, time, times, and a half. 

6. The 6th seal begins right at this moment. God is not happy with this abomination and shows his anger both here on earth (large earthquake) and cosmic signs in the heavenlies.

7. The Faithful remnant Jews (1/3) flee to the Mountains, I think in Bosrah, Jordan. 

8. The Trumpet Judgments begin shortly after the Abomination 

9. The 144,000 Jews will also be evangelizing hard during this time. 

10. The Bowl judgments follow the Trumpets, obviously in that final 3.5 year period (GT)

11. The nations will meet at Armageddon (I am not sure if this is also called the Gog/Magog War of Ezekiel 38/39, and not sure if Gog=Beast.) just before the return of  Yeshua right at the end of the 70th week.

12. Christ comes back with his saints and kicks some booty.  (FYI, The Saints immediately went up from the Rapture to the Bema Judgment for their rewards and the Marriage Supper.)  The Beast and the False Prophet are thrown into the Lake of Fire and Satan is bound for 1000 years in the Abyss. 

13. Sheep and Goat Judgment- the sheep repopulate earth, goats are judged guilty and Removed

14. Christ sets up his Millenial Kingdom for 1000 yrs

15. Satan loosed, does his thing again rallying the unbelievers, Fire from Heaven devours them, Satan now thrown into Lake of Fire to be reunited with Beast and False Prophet

16. New Heaven and New Earth (might be a renewed Earth)

 

Obviously this is not all encompassing, but I think it says enough to generate thought and I’ve probably said enough for now. So, let me have it. 

Thanks.

spock

 

I believe you are right that the multitude in Rev 7:9 represents the raptured saints. However, v 14 says they come out of the great tribulation which implies the great tribulation is already in progress when the multitude are extracted. Also, that John places the two witnesses in ch 11 in the midst of his description of the trumpet plagues indicates that those two minister during the period of the trumpet plagues and not earlier.

[SisterActs2]

Hello friends

They are Lemmings, Marilyn lol.  And welcome back Spock.  Haven't seen you for a while, glad to see you now!

[Dennis1209]

21 hours ago, Spock said:

I invite all comments, pro and con, and I especially invite you showing me through scripture where you believe I am in error, if you believe that. I do not claim to have all the answers, but like you, I’m seeking and searching for them like faithful Bereans. 

 I will try  to consider and mesh both Daniels final 7 year period that has been prophesied pursuant to Daniel 9 and the book of Revelation End time events which only talks about a 3.5 year period, known as the GREAT TRIBULATION. 

Let me preface my timeline with this: I believe it is possible the four horsemen of the apocalypse (first four Seals) have been opened and have ridden already. I believe it is possible that began as soon as Yeshua (Jesus) entered Heaven on His ascension from earth. (Rev 5)  I see the rider of the first horse, the spirit of antichrist, going forth throughout the world which I see immediately beginning after Jesus left.

Timeline In chronological order:

1. I see the final seven year period that Daniel prophesied will begin with some sort of peace treaty or covenant being made with the many (Israel included).  I believe, but not dogmatic, that the two witnesses of Rev 11 will make their appearance in Jerusalem at this time and will preach the Word for 3.5 years. The two witnesses will be Enoch, Elijah, or Moses, two of this three. 

2. This will allow for Israel to rebuild their Temple (FYI, I do not believe it will be on the Temple Mount, but rather in the City of David, just South of the Temple Mount.)

3. There will be relative calmness in the Middle East and the world as a result of this treaty for about 3 years.

4. Very close to the 3.5 year mark, the RAPTURE....very unexpected and sudden. Be ready Saints! I believe this group of people is represented in Rev 7: 9-17 and I don’t think it is coincidental this scene takes place BEFORE the Trumpet Judgments of Rev 8. 

5.At the midpoint of the 7 years, the Man of sin (the Beast, known as the antichrist) will make his move to be worshipped and set himself up in the rebuilt Temple to proclaim such. The ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION IS HERE.  This now begins the time period known as the Great Tribulation= 1260 Days, 3.5 years, time, times, and a half. 

6. The 6th seal begins right at this moment. God is not happy with this abomination and shows his anger both here on earth (large earthquake) and cosmic signs in the heavenlies.

7. The Faithful remnant Jews (1/3) flee to the Mountains, I think in Bosrah, Jordan. 

8. The Trumpet Judgments begin shortly after the Abomination 

9. The 144,000 Jews will also be evangelizing hard during this time. 

10. The Bowl judgments follow the Trumpets, obviously in that final 3.5 year period (GT)

11. The nations will meet at Armageddon (I am not sure if this is also called the Gog/Magog War of Ezekiel 38/39, and not sure if Gog=Beast.) just before the return of  Yeshua right at the end of the 70th week.

12. Christ comes back with his saints and kicks some booty.  (FYI, The Saints immediately went up from the Rapture to the Bema Judgment for their rewards and the Marriage Supper.)  The Beast and the False Prophet are thrown into the Lake of Fire and Satan is bound for 1000 years in the Abyss. 

13. Sheep and Goat Judgment- the sheep repopulate earth, goats are judged guilty and Removed

14. Christ sets up his Millenial Kingdom for 1000 yrs

15. Satan loosed, does his thing again rallying the unbelievers, Fire from Heaven devours them, Satan now thrown into Lake of Fire to be reunited with Beast and False Prophet

16. New Heaven and New Earth (might be a renewed Earth)

 

Obviously this is not all encompassing, but I think it says enough to generate thought and I’ve probably said enough for now. So, let me have it. 

Thanks.

spock

 

We're not always going to be 100% in agreement. Where would you put the below scripture in your timeline? Seems to me this is the Gog / Magog invasion the Lord intervenes in. This would mean at a minimum, this invasion has to occur 3 1/2 years prior to the official start of the tribulation, when AC confirms a covenant with many. As at the 3 1/2 year mid point (God's wrath) of the tribulation, when the AC breaks his covenant and persecutes Israel, they flee (possibly Petra, Jordan) and can not be burning these weapons during this period. 

Eze 39:9 And they that dwell in the cities of Israel shall go forth, and shall set on fire and burn the weapons, both the shields and the bucklers, the bows and the arrows, and the handstaves, and the spears, and they shall burn them with fire seven years: