Handguns in UK

[Wayne222]

          I read this morning that 20 years ago a man walk into a British school and killed 10 kids and a teacher. So the UK ban guns right away. Since then no school shootings in 20 years not one. Maybe we do have to do this. 

[Justin Adams]

That dude was a nutter, fully licensed and from a gun club. In Switzerland it is mandatory to have guns.

In the US, when they passed the free to carry in TX the crime rate decreased. Go figure.

Per capita, looking at demographics per societal group (requires research) the US is no worse than many of the EU countries. In the UK there are lots of knife and gun crimes too. So to keep banning stuff never works.

 

[Wayne222]

29 minutes ago, Justin Adams said:

That dude was a nutter, fully licensed and from a gun club. In Switzerland it is mandatory to have guns.

In the US, when they passed the free to carry in TX the crime rate decreased. Go figure.

Per capita, looking at demographics per societal group (requires research) the US is no worse than many of the EU countries. In the UK there are lots of knife and gun crimes too. So to keep banning stuff never works.

 

For a lot of things your right. But I am talking about schools and teenagers getting weapons to kill in the school. That alone would be worth it.

[ayin jade]

In arizona, we have concealed carry, we have open carry. We do not have the problems of school shootings. 

Chicago has some of the toughest gun laws in the nation. Yet they have more shootings than anywhere else in the us. The mayor of chicago a year or so ago was giving a press conference on some gun related thing and bullets whizzed past him during the conference. 

Mexico banned guns long ago. They have tough laws and sentences for violators. Yet they have the second highest rate in the world for death by violence, by firearms. 

Criminals do not respect laws. Gun bans to them are laughable. Violent people will always be able to obtain a weapon in order to kill. Gun laws will not change the heart of man. Gun laws will not stop murder. 

[Justin Adams]

When I was younger, we would take our 22's to school and pop squirrels in the nearby woods while we ate our sandwiches. The school rule was PICK UP YOUR BRASS.

[GreyDestiny]

It's differing areas. Not only does the US have a much, MUCH larger black market, but the UK is more fond of stabbings and the whiny sarcasm they call "humor". I don't think i'd look at a series of countries where you're about 85% likely to be stabbed on any given day as an example, especially when you're talking about Northern Ireland.

[Guest]

We need to enforce the laws on the books, not make new ones that will also be ignored. Nor take guns out of the hands of law-abiding citizens so that only criminals and crazies have guns. Granted, there are some things, like bump-stocks, which need to be highly regulated, but there again if someone wants to get their hands on one, they will.

[other one]

you can actually hold an AR15 loosely and have the same effect as the bump stock....   it just takes practice....    but like the bump stock it makes the gun rather difficult to hit a target...   plus even with a 30 shot clip, shooting about 8 rounds a second, the clip is empty in less than 4 seconds...   I know people who can single trigger pull shoot 3+ rounds a second and do so very accurately......     so in reality a bump stock is really just a play toy.   At best it will let you shoot someone 8 to ten times instead of two.....    two accurately placed is almost always enough. That leaves a person with five or six other shots.....    so in effect a bump stock might actually save lives by running a crazy person out of amo.....   

Unless they have changed tactics, military people very seldom use the full auto fire on their M16s's     back in my day dealing with that weapon it was considered a waste of amo to use full auto.

[secretopossumcabal]

U.S Gun crimes would resemble Europe if you take out all the inner-city violence among blacks.  

 

Blacks have a fatherless homes problem -- notice the one thing with all school shooters? They overwhelmingly come from fatherless homes. No father figure = no knowledge on how to manage a male's natural aggression. Sorrow turns to grief which turns to vengeance. it's the same exact story every time, and each time, people continue to address the symptoms instead of the root cause. 

 

What Satan does is that he destroys the family and then blames the violence that stems from broken homes on guns to disarm the population, he's setting up the stage to make them easy pickings later on when he will act with violence against them. 

[other one]

Most of the shooters were taking psychiatric drugs of one sort or another....