Christian Unity

[brakelite]

There is a cry going forth from mainstream Christianity and among charismatics that the current disunity within Christendom needs to be addressed, and that uniting on those points upon which all can agree must be pursued with vigour in order to keep the Christian message alive and relevant to a post-modern society. Whilst it is indeed true that the number of Christian denominations, and independent churches,are many, and increasing exponentially, ‘unity’ at all costs, particularly at the cost of truth, must be avoided by any and all means.

The Bible tells us (for those who claim the name of Christ and still believe in the Bible) that the time is coming that the only denominations will be those who have accepted the mark of the beast and are worshiping according to the government dictates. They are the daughters of the Mother, Babylon the Great. Because they have left the truth, they have become harlots in the same character as their mother from whom they originally came. This will leave only a small minority, a united movement who resist the majority traditions and pressures of the NWO, If they were at any stage a denomination, it has long been annulled by government decree due to their practicing their religion according to the Bible, and the Bible only. Teaching the true gospel, they will be accused of hate speech, hated of all nations for Christ’s sake, and be considered the execration of society. Accused of being the cause of God’s judgments falling upon the earth, they will in the end be sentenced to death. This is they who keep the commandments of God and have the faith of Jesus.(Revel. 12:17; 14:12) They are the only ones patiently waiting for Christ’s coming. And the only ones to be translated when He appears in glory. The majority have long given up hope of the second coming; the Bible is no longer seen as relevant to modern society, its history shrouded even now in doubt and skepticism; and doctrine no longer viewed as necessary to salvation, because today there are as many roads that lead to heaven as there are that lead to Rome.
The minority believers are united in the cause for truth, in the preaching of truth in the power of the Holy Spirit, in the living of truth by their living faith in the grace of God. One with Jesus and the Father, empowered by the Spirit of God, they love one another and their chief priority in life is to see as many people as possible come out of Babylon into a saving relationship with Christ.
They have a Truth they know is not to be compromised, and with courage and selfless love for lost souls, they repudiate everything not in harmony with that Truth.
Soon “let us be united” will be the rallying cry of the majority. And unite they will, but under a banner of error and deception.
Beware of false calls to unity. Have a look at Matthew 24:4-9. Note that up to the first part of verse 7, the world is in utter disarray. Wars and rumors of wars, nation against nation, kingdom against kingdom. This has been the state of this world since Cain slew Abel. Conflict has been the one constant thread that is woven throughout human history. But note that in verse 9 there is a major shift. We see the nations of the world united for the very first time…united against the church! But let us pause a little and also consider Revelation 13:3…all the world wondered after the beast…. 8: and all that dwell upon the earth shall worship.…14: and deceiveth them that dwell upon the earth…The whole world is going to be deceived into false worship. This will not be Islam. Babylon the Great is a symbol of the Roman Catholic Church. The world will be deceived into worshiping according to Roman tradition; they will believe they are worshiping according to the truth, for they are deceived. Thus the final great conflict of the ages is not between atheism and theism, but will be between two brothers, one worshiping according to truth and revelation, the other according to tradition and occultist and demonic new age philosophy. An end time repeat of Cain and Abel. What evils and wickedness that permeated religious intolerance  during the 1ooo odd years of papal dominion in Europe during the dark ages will be repeated on a global scale with as much ardor, fanaticism, and violence as the worst of the inquisitions of the past.

Our allegiances in those days will not about denominations but about truth and obedience to the commandments of God as opposed to the commandments of men.

The coming separation of Christianity under the aegis of the false prophet is the separation we ought to be more concerned about. For then there will be only two sides. How do you know you wont be deceived along with the rest of the world? How do you know you aren’t already deceived and ripe picking for the coming NWO? What is it about your beliefs and faith that makes you different from the vast majority of Christianity who will take the side of the Antichrist and worship the beast and his image?

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4 minutes ago, brakelite said:

The minority believers are united in the cause for truth, in the preaching of truth in the power of the Holy Spirit, in the living of truth by their living faith in the grace of God. One with Jesus and the Father, empowered by the Spirit of God, they love one another and their chief priority in life is to see as many people as possible come out of Babylon into a saving relationship with Christ.

"Assuredly, I say to you, unless you are converted and become as little children, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven." - Matthew 18:3

"Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God." - John 3:5

 

7 minutes ago, brakelite said:

How do you know you wont be deceived along with the rest of the world?

"My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me." - John 10:27

"Yet they will by no means follow a stranger, but will flee from him, for they do not know the voice of strangers." - John 10:5

 

It is the Lord Jesus who guides us in all truth, without Him we are lost.

"Then Jesus spoke to them again, saying, “I am the light of the world. He who follows Me shall not walk in darkness, but have the light of life.”" - John 8:12

 

Glory to God! Amen.

[Wayne222]

22 minutes ago, brakelite said:

There is a cry going forth from mainstream Christianity and among charismatics that the current disunity within Christendom needs to be addressed, and that uniting on those points upon which all can agree must be pursued with vigour in order to keep the Christian message alive and relevant to a post-modern society. Whilst it is indeed true that the number of Christian denominations, and independent churches,are many, and increasing exponentially, ‘unity’ at all costs, particularly at the cost of truth, must be avoided by any and all means.

The Bible tells us (for those who claim the name of Christ and still believe in the Bible) that the time is coming that the only denominations will be those who have accepted the mark of the beast and are worshiping according to the government dictates. They are the daughters of the Mother, Babylon the Great. Because they have left the truth, they have become harlots in the same character as their mother from whom they originally came. This will leave only a small minority, a united movement who resist the majority traditions and pressures of the NWO, If they were at any stage a denomination, it has long been annulled by government decree due to their practicing their religion according to the Bible, and the Bible only. Teaching the true gospel, they will be accused of hate speech, hated of all nations for Christ’s sake, and be considered the execration of society. Accused of being the cause of God’s judgments falling upon the earth, they will in the end be sentenced to death. This is they who keep the commandments of God and have the faith of Jesus.(Revel. 12:17; 14:12) They are the only ones patiently waiting for Christ’s coming. And the only ones to be translated when He appears in glory. The majority have long given up hope of the second coming; the Bible is no longer seen as relevant to modern society, its history shrouded even now in doubt and skepticism; and doctrine no longer viewed as necessary to salvation, because today there are as many roads that lead to heaven as there are that lead to Rome.
The minority believers are united in the cause for truth, in the preaching of truth in the power of the Holy Spirit, in the living of truth by their living faith in the grace of God. One with Jesus and the Father, empowered by the Spirit of God, they love one another and their chief priority in life is to see as many people as possible come out of Babylon into a saving relationship with Christ.
They have a Truth they know is not to be compromised, and with courage and selfless love for lost souls, they repudiate everything not in harmony with that Truth.
Soon “let us be united” will be the rallying cry of the majority. And unite they will, but under a banner of error and deception.
Beware of false calls to unity. Have a look at Matthew 24:4-9. Note that up to the first part of verse 7, the world is in utter disarray. Wars and rumors of wars, nation against nation, kingdom against kingdom. This has been the state of this world since Cain slew Abel. Conflict has been the one constant thread that is woven throughout human history. But note that in verse 9 there is a major shift. We see the nations of the world united for the very first time…united against the church! But let us pause a little and also consider Revelation 13:3…all the world wondered after the beast…. 8: and all that dwell upon the earth shall worship.…14: and deceiveth them that dwell upon the earth…The whole world is going to be deceived into false worship. This will not be Islam. Babylon the Great is a symbol of the Roman Catholic Church. The world will be deceived into worshiping according to Roman tradition; they will believe they are worshiping according to the truth, for they are deceived. Thus the final great conflict of the ages is not between atheism and theism, but will be between two brothers, one worshiping according to truth and revelation, the other according to tradition and occultist and demonic new age philosophy. An end time repeat of Cain and Abel. What evils and wickedness that permeated religious intolerance  during the 1ooo odd years of papal dominion in Europe during the dark ages will be repeated on a global scale with as much ardor, fanaticism, and violence as the worst of the inquisitions of the past.

Our allegiances in those days will not about denominations but about truth and obedience to the commandments of God as opposed to the commandments of men.

The coming separation of Christianity under the aegis of the false prophet is the separation we ought to be more concerned about. For then there will be only two sides. How do you know you wont be deceived along with the rest of the world? How do you know you aren’t already deceived and ripe picking for the coming NWO? What is it about your beliefs and faith that makes you different from the vast majority of Christianity who will take the side of the Antichrist and worship the beast and his image?

  You sound like you follow teachings of Herbert W Armstrong. The worldwide church of God.  Or SDA but there close. But I do believe the great falling away will come when the Antichrist appears. I think also he might be a Muslim. Islam is the one religion that persecute all others. Sharia law will dominate in the world some day.

[OneLight]

Ephesians 4:1-6

I, therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you to walk worthy of the calling with which you were called, with all lowliness and gentleness, with longsuffering, bearing with one another in love, endeavoring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.  There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called in one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

 

[frienduff thaylorde]

2 hours ago, Wayne222 said:

  You sound like you follow teachings of Herbert W Armstrong. The worldwide church of God.  Or SDA but there close. But I do believe the great falling away will come when the Antichrist appears. I think also he might be a Muslim. Islam is the one religion that persecute all others. Sharia law will dominate in the world some day.

No .  the false prophet comes from within THE CHRISTIAN RELIGOIN no doubt on that .

Judas who was called the son of perdition also was amongst them as one who believed..........but was really a pretender.

Believe me we got many pretenders in our own religion .  AND ONE in a real high place that plays like he knows JESUS , but yeah he preaches all roads

and man that man leads one church that is doing all to get both the secular and the other religons and all the Christian denominations UNDER HER .

MAN we got a huge pretender sitting high and deceiving many .   OH that the anti Christ WONT BE MUSLIM ,  nope

the interfaith all inclusive move......for world peace, that will lead to the anti Christ , WHO BY PEACE destroys many. 

AND ITS IN PLAIN SIGHT.      wow what a deception has began and increasing .   

[frienduff thaylorde]

2 hours ago, brakelite said:

There is a cry going forth from mainstream Christianity and among charismatics that the current disunity within Christendom needs to be addressed, and that uniting on those points upon which all can agree must be pursued with vigour in order to keep the Christian message alive and relevant to a post-modern society. Whilst it is indeed true that the number of Christian denominations, and independent churches,are many, and increasing exponentially, ‘unity’ at all costs, particularly at the cost of truth, must be avoided by any and all means.

The Bible tells us (for those who claim the name of Christ and still believe in the Bible) that the time is coming that the only denominations will be those who have accepted the mark of the beast and are worshiping according to the government dictates. They are the daughters of the Mother, Babylon the Great. Because they have left the truth, they have become harlots in the same character as their mother from whom they originally came. This will leave only a small minority, a united movement who resist the majority traditions and pressures of the NWO, If they were at any stage a denomination, it has long been annulled by government decree due to their practicing their religion according to the Bible, and the Bible only. Teaching the true gospel, they will be accused of hate speech, hated of all nations for Christ’s sake, and be considered the execration of society. Accused of being the cause of God’s judgments falling upon the earth, they will in the end be sentenced to death. This is they who keep the commandments of God and have the faith of Jesus.(Revel. 12:17; 14:12) They are the only ones patiently waiting for Christ’s coming. And the only ones to be translated when He appears in glory. The majority have long given up hope of the second coming; the Bible is no longer seen as relevant to modern society, its history shrouded even now in doubt and skepticism; and doctrine no longer viewed as necessary to salvation, because today there are as many roads that lead to heaven as there are that lead to Rome.
The minority believers are united in the cause for truth, in the preaching of truth in the power of the Holy Spirit, in the living of truth by their living faith in the grace of God. One with Jesus and the Father, empowered by the Spirit of God, they love one another and their chief priority in life is to see as many people as possible come out of Babylon into a saving relationship with Christ.
They have a Truth they know is not to be compromised, and with courage and selfless love for lost souls, they repudiate everything not in harmony with that Truth.
Soon “let us be united” will be the rallying cry of the majority. And unite they will, but under a banner of error and deception.
Beware of false calls to unity. Have a look at Matthew 24:4-9. Note that up to the first part of verse 7, the world is in utter disarray. Wars and rumors of wars, nation against nation, kingdom against kingdom. This has been the state of this world since Cain slew Abel. Conflict has been the one constant thread that is woven throughout human history. But note that in verse 9 there is a major shift. We see the nations of the world united for the very first time…united against the church! But let us pause a little and also consider Revelation 13:3…all the world wondered after the beast…. 8: and all that dwell upon the earth shall worship.…14: and deceiveth them that dwell upon the earth…The whole world is going to be deceived into false worship. This will not be Islam. Babylon the Great is a symbol of the Roman Catholic Church. The world will be deceived into worshiping according to Roman tradition; they will believe they are worshiping according to the truth, for they are deceived. Thus the final great conflict of the ages is not between atheism and theism, but will be between two brothers, one worshiping according to truth and revelation, the other according to tradition and occultist and demonic new age philosophy. An end time repeat of Cain and Abel. What evils and wickedness that permeated religious intolerance  during the 1ooo odd years of papal dominion in Europe during the dark ages will be repeated on a global scale with as much ardor, fanaticism, and violence as the worst of the inquisitions of the past.

Our allegiances in those days will not about denominations but about truth and obedience to the commandments of God as opposed to the commandments of men.

The coming separation of Christianity under the aegis of the false prophet is the separation we ought to be more concerned about. For then there will be only two sides. How do you know you wont be deceived along with the rest of the world? How do you know you aren’t already deceived and ripe picking for the coming NWO? What is it about your beliefs and faith that makes you different from the vast majority of Christianity who will take the side of the Antichrist and worship the beast and his image?

And who leads this unity charge.................who ever leads that will be the one that sits atop this one world religion.

SEEN churches starting to point to unity with a CERTAIN MAJOR CHURCH YET...................sure you have ...........well it rises from that church.

IF  their was a message and it pointed to lets all be like friendfuff................it would not take rocket science to figure it out that FRIENDFUFF wants the power ...........

SO how come so many cant see ITS ROME that desiers ALL POWER , ALLL POWER .  when all the denominations are saying things like we catholic

and ROME leads in interfaith ...........WHO YOU THINK is GROOMING HER NEST TO SIT HIGH ABOVE IT ALL.     man its so clear to see. 

[frienduff thaylorde]

2 hours ago, brakelite said:

There is a cry going forth from mainstream Christianity and among charismatics that the current disunity within Christendom needs to be addressed, and that uniting on those points upon which all can agree must be pursued with vigour in order to keep the Christian message alive and relevant to a post-modern society. Whilst it is indeed true that the number of Christian denominations, and independent churches,are many, and increasing exponentially, ‘unity’ at all costs, particularly at the cost of truth, must be avoided by any and all means.

The Bible tells us (for those who claim the name of Christ and still believe in the Bible) that the time is coming that the only denominations will be those who have accepted the mark of the beast and are worshiping according to the government dictates. They are the daughters of the Mother, Babylon the Great. Because they have left the truth, they have become harlots in the same character as their mother from whom they originally came. This will leave only a small minority, a united movement who resist the majority traditions and pressures of the NWO, If they were at any stage a denomination, it has long been annulled by government decree due to their practicing their religion according to the Bible, and the Bible only. Teaching the true gospel, they will be accused of hate speech, hated of all nations for Christ’s sake, and be considered the execration of society. Accused of being the cause of God’s judgments falling upon the earth, they will in the end be sentenced to death. This is they who keep the commandments of God and have the faith of Jesus.(Revel. 12:17; 14:12) They are the only ones patiently waiting for Christ’s coming. And the only ones to be translated when He appears in glory. The majority have long given up hope of the second coming; the Bible is no longer seen as relevant to modern society, its history shrouded even now in doubt and skepticism; and doctrine no longer viewed as necessary to salvation, because today there are as many roads that lead to heaven as there are that lead to Rome.
The minority believers are united in the cause for truth, in the preaching of truth in the power of the Holy Spirit, in the living of truth by their living faith in the grace of God. One with Jesus and the Father, empowered by the Spirit of God, they love one another and their chief priority in life is to see as many people as possible come out of Babylon into a saving relationship with Christ.
They have a Truth they know is not to be compromised, and with courage and selfless love for lost souls, they repudiate everything not in harmony with that Truth.
Soon “let us be united” will be the rallying cry of the majority. And unite they will, but under a banner of error and deception.
Beware of false calls to unity. Have a look at Matthew 24:4-9. Note that up to the first part of verse 7, the world is in utter disarray. Wars and rumors of wars, nation against nation, kingdom against kingdom. This has been the state of this world since Cain slew Abel. Conflict has been the one constant thread that is woven throughout human history. But note that in verse 9 there is a major shift. We see the nations of the world united for the very first time…united against the church! But let us pause a little and also consider Revelation 13:3…all the world wondered after the beast…. 8: and all that dwell upon the earth shall worship.…14: and deceiveth them that dwell upon the earth…The whole world is going to be deceived into false worship. This will not be Islam. Babylon the Great is a symbol of the Roman Catholic Church. The world will be deceived into worshiping according to Roman tradition; they will believe they are worshiping according to the truth, for they are deceived. Thus the final great conflict of the ages is not between atheism and theism, but will be between two brothers, one worshiping according to truth and revelation, the other according to tradition and occultist and demonic new age philosophy. An end time repeat of Cain and Abel. What evils and wickedness that permeated religious intolerance  during the 1ooo odd years of papal dominion in Europe during the dark ages will be repeated on a global scale with as much ardor, fanaticism, and violence as the worst of the inquisitions of the past.

Our allegiances in those days will not about denominations but about truth and obedience to the commandments of God as opposed to the commandments of men.

The coming separation of Christianity under the aegis of the false prophet is the separation we ought to be more concerned about. For then there will be only two sides. How do you know you wont be deceived along with the rest of the world? How do you know you aren’t already deceived and ripe picking for the coming NWO? What is it about your beliefs and faith that makes you different from the vast majority of Christianity who will take the side of the Antichrist and worship the beast and his image?

THIS unity move.   ITS all a sham.   its an agenda and its for power and control.   HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH IT .
IF WE DIE FOR JESUS the amen.    I shun this unity movment going on right to hades if I could.     WE will unite IN JESUS ONLY and we will have NOTHING

to do whatoseover with this unity movment .    WE unite with JESUS ONLY CHRISTAINS , we reach out to all but we are only yoked with TRUE BELEIVERS.

THIS Unity has nothing to do with TRUTH .    its all a sham.  LET the world hate us , let it kill us , let us all suffer LONG before we conform to this wicked agenda .

I am fully prepared in Christ to have nothing to do with this sham.  NOTHING , NOTHING .     WE as true beleivers NEED to start uniting .

That is going to mean dropping church titles of denominations .  AND just being christains .     I aint of paul  we aint of applos we aint of seven day

we aint of Baptist and we sure as heck aint catholic  .   IF some of us wont drop our denomination , then we wont be uniting we will stay divided.

Lets face it quickly now .   IF we agree as beleivers ,  why we need any name BUT CHRISTAIN. 

As long as we hold to certain doctrines ,   some here are shooting themselves and their testimony RIGHT IN THE FOOT.

time to leave seven day,  time to titles of denominations .     TIME to preach JESUS and resist this false unity sham and unite in Christ as true beleievers.

 

[Mike Mclees]

I have seen preached this message for over 20 yrs. It stirs my heart to see this message being brought to light on this thread. I pray that many will read these testimonies. Time is short and the antichrist is a politician that needs mother church as spring board to power. In Revelation the antichrist and the  great harlots are one  

CHAPTER 13

¹ And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having {seven heads and ten horns}, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name^a of blasphemy. ² And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority

^a name: or, names     Re 13:1-2

 

 

The Great Harlet

 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters: ² With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication. ³ So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having { seven heads and ten horns}    Re 17:1-3

 

They are of the same ambition lusting for power and domination
 

 

[brakelite]

22 hours ago, Wayne222 said:

  You sound like you follow teachings of Herbert W Armstrong. The worldwide church of God.  Or SDA but there close. But I do believe the great falling away will come when the Antichrist appears. I think also he might be a Muslim. Islam is the one religion that persecute all others. Sharia law will dominate in the world some day.

I would ask what difference does it make what church I belong to if I speak the truth? Truth is not peculiar to evangelicals. The old adage of attacking the messenger rather than the message is prevalent on this forum when people run out of arguments against the message.

Your opinion of what 'might' take place in the future surely cannot be more trustworthy than documented and confirmed history? The falling away was in fact the establishment of the Papacy. What future falling away could possibly match the capture of billions over 1700 years, and holding over 2 billion people today in deception? What more are you waiting for? What greater apostasy could there possibly be? Particularly when one considers most of Protestantism has long since abandoned her reform theology for dispensationalism and futurism? Babylon has long since fallen as per Revelation 14:6-12.

And on the same track, what more could a future so-called antichrist individual do to fulfill prophecy that the Papacy hasn't already fulfilled? What criteria required of Antichrist has not been fulfilled by the Roman Church? Because I could name several criteria that a future individual could not fulfill discounting any possibility of a future individual being the antichrist. One being that he cannot uproot 3 horns which were uprooted and vanished from history in the 6th century. It would be a neat trick to resurrect 3 extinct European nations and then destroy them again.

Edited February 25, 2018 by brakelite

[OneLight]

55 minutes ago, brakelite said:

I would ask what difference does it make what church I belong to if I speak the truth? Truth is not peculiar to evangelicals. The old adage of attacking the messenger rather than the message is prevalent on this forum when people run out of arguments against the message.

Your opinion of what 'might' take place in the future surely cannot be more trustworthy than documented and confirmed history? The falling away was in fact the establishment of the Papacy. What future falling away could possibly match the capture of billions over 1700 years, and holding over 2 billion people today in deception? What more are you waiting for? What greater apostasy could there possibly be? Particularly when one considers most of Protestantism has long since abandoned her reform theology for dispensationalism and futurism? Babylon has long since fallen as per Revelation 14:6-12.

And on the same track, what more could a future so-called antichrist individual do to fulfill prophecy that the Papacy hasn't already fulfilled? What criteria required of Antichrist has not been fulfilled by the Roman Church? Because I could name several criteria that a future individual could not fulfill discounting any possibility of a future individual being the antichrist. One being that he cannot uproot 3 horns which were uprooted and vanished from history in the 6th century. It would be a neat trick to resurrect 3 extinct European nations and then destroy them again.

Watch, pay attention, and put aside your preconceived ideas and theology.  God is not finished yet.