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he prophetic chronological order of end times events as outlined in the Bible are as follows:

1. The very next prophetic event to take place will be the rapture of the Church, consisting of everyone who believes in Jesus Christ as Lord, regardless of denomination, or no denomination at all, as taught by both Jesus as well as the apostle Paul. In Jn.14:2-4, 28; 1 Thes.4:13-18; 2 Thes.2:1-8; Rev.3:10 and 4:1-2. All those who died in Christ, to all those who are still alive at His coming in the clouds of the sky, for His Church, where we will all meet Jesus, from where He will take us to our Father in heaven, as He promised us in Jn.14:2-4 and 28.

2. The rapture of the Christian Church of Jesus Christ preceeds the revealing of the man of lawlessness/beast/antichrist, according to 2 Thes.2:3-4 and 7-8. Which then immediately sets off the seven years of tribulation, as recorded in Mt.24:4-31, Jesus amplification of Dan.9:27. Where the person who is all three of the "he's" in that verse, and the rider of the white horse in Rev.6:2, is revealed.  All of whom are the antichrist. It is at this stage of end times chronology the 70th Week of Dan.9:27 will begin.

3. The tribulation is revealed in Jer.30:4-7, referred to as "Jacob's Trouble," and in Dan.9:27, the 70th and final week of God's decree upon the destiny of Israel. In God's revelation to the prophet Daniel, through the angel Gabriel, the 70 "Weeks" [7 years each] of years He has decreed upon the entire destiny of Israel.  From the end of their 70 year exile, through the coming seven year tribulation.  The person who will set it of is the antichrist, the "he" who will establish a seven year covenant/agreement with them. Dan.9:27.

Jesus amplified and confirmed Daniel's 70th and final "Week," consisting of the abomination that causes desolation, in Mt.24:15 and 21, and in the counterparts of Mk.13 and in Lk.21.

4. The fig trees have sprouted leaves, we can see for ourselves and know that summer is near. Lk.21:29. Which began with the new nation of Israel, when it was reestablished on May 14, 1948.

5. The Christian Church of Jesus Christ is called up into heaven, symbolically illustrated by the apostle John in Rev.4:1-2, confirming 2 Thes.2:3 and 7-8.  As prophecied in Jn.14:2-4, 28 and 1 Thes.4:16-17, while Israel and all non-believers will go through the seven year tribulation. The Church is seen again at their marriage of the Lamb [Jesus Christ] to His Bride [The Church] in heaven, recorded in Rev.19:7-9, while the tribulation is taking place on earth.

6. Jesus will return, seven ears later, with His Church, following Him on white horses, dressed in fine linen, white and clean, which stands for the righteous acts of the saints [Verse 8 NIV]. In His Second Coming to the earth, with His angels, in His armies from heaven, in Zech.14:4-5, Mt.24:31, Jude 14, and Rev.19:14.

7. Jesus will fight  the battle of Armageddon, with His armies from heaven and end it, recorded in Rev.19:11-21.  And save the remnant of Israel, who then recognize Him as their Messiah, recorded in  Zech.12:10, and "all Israel will be saved," recorded in Rom.11:26...

8. The antichrist and the false prophet will be thrown into the lake of fire, and the armies of the ten horns [nations] are destroyed. Rev19:17-21. Jesus prophecy in Jn.10:16 will then be fulfilled, when there will be one fold [Israel and His Church] and one Shepherd. It is at this stage of end times chronology the 70 Weeks prophecy in Dan.9:27 will end.
 9..Satan is caught and thrown into the Abyss for the same 1,000 years that Jesus will reign, in His kingdom here on the earth. Rev.20:6, confirming Mt.6:9-13;  Zech.6:12-13, described in Ez.40-47; Acts 1:6; 2:29-30 and 15:16.

10. The first resurrection takes place which consists of all those brought to the Lord during the tribulation by the 144,000 Israelite evangelists. They will be martyred during the tribulation, by the two beasts, the antichrist, the false prophet and the ten horns [nations] allied to them. Those who are brought to Christ by the 144,000 Israelite evangelists, in the absence of the departed Church during the tribulation, do not belong to the Christian Church [who will be raptured before the seven year tribulation begins, as addressed above]. They will be made priests of God and of Christ, and rule with Him for 1,000 years, after their resurrection, according to Rev.20:4 and 6.  They will be beheaded and pay with their lives for their testimony of Jesus, by the two beasts, the antichrist, the false prophet and the ten horns [nations] allied to them..

11. The Millennial Kingdom of Christ will consist of the one body of Christ, His Church,  all those who survived the tribulation, besides the resurrected martyrs, and the remnant of Israel. In numbers alone, from an estimated original 7 billion people, there will only be 2.3 billion remaining , of those who had to go through the tribulation, recorded in Zech.13:8. Life expectancy will be greatly increased. Isa.65:20 and 11:6-9.

12. Jesus 1,000 year kingdom  will begin at this point, according to Rev.20:6, here on the earth, on the throne of David, in the restored kingdom of Israel, confirming Acts 1:6; 2:29-30 and 15:16.  At the same time the 1,000 years Satan will be in the Abyss, according to Rev.20:1-3.  Jesus prophecy in Jn.10:16 will then be fulfilled, when there will be one fold, Israel and the Church, with one Shepherd. When Jesus Millennial kingdom has ended, 1,000 years later, at the Great White Throne judgment, recorded in Rev.20:11-15.  Satan will be released and go out to deceive the people and nations again in his last rebellion against God and gather a huge army who come against God's people, surrounding Jerusalem. But God will send fire and sulfur down from heaven, as He did at Sodom and Gomorrah, destroying them all, and throwing Satan into the lake of fire, forever, in Rev.20:7-10.

13. The second resurrection takes place according to Rev.20:5, that consists of all those who will be saved during the Millennial reign of Jesus here on the earth, as well as the Godless and wicked, at the Great White Throne Judgment, set up to judge them, right here on earth. The sea, death and Hades all give up their dead and will then be thrown into the lake of fire. Meaning, that all who were in the 'temporal holding tanks' of Sheol, Hades and Hell will be removed to face judgment, along with death itself, disposed of forever. For all those who participate in the second resurrection, if their name is not found in the book of life, will be thrown into the lake of fire forever. Rev.20:11-15, and Dan.12:2 and Mt.25:46 will be fulfilled.

14. The old heaven and earth will pass away, recorded in Rev.21:1 [Destroyed by fire according to 2 Pet.3:7] and God will provide an all new heaven and earth, and the new eternal city of Jerusalem will descend from heaven, 1,500 miles long and as wide as it is long and as high as it is wide, Rev.21:1-16.
 

 15. The rest of chapters 21 and 22 allude to a description of the coming eternal city and life of all believers who will be with the Lord forever.

 
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Whether things happen that way or not is inconsequential.  What happens if your eschatology is incorrect?  Will you be able to recognize that you had it wrong and adjust?

What is important is that we live our lives according to the will of God.  That's how we become prepared for His return.  That's how we become wise and gain spiritual discernment.

Concerning the things to come, we should be prepared, not dogmatic.

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Jesus told us trouble is sufficient for today. What is next is what has always been happening from Genesis till now and will continue to happen. Last Daze is right, the order of events prepares us unwittingly for nothing. 

What has and is happening and will be happening is an increase in "persecution" in the world soon coming to a location near you and "deception" gaining more and more ground. The "dragon" and the "serpent". We've all heard more believers have been martyred for their faith in the last century than in the last 2 thousand years.

Also, increasingly, the wickedness of man, and humanity at some point thinking peace peace peace being oblivious to what is coming upon the earth, "Just as the days of Noah".

Thirdly, the growing push towards political, economic and religious unity to solve the problems of the world. The deceived world has always been moving to rebuild the Tower of Babel. Figuratively speaking. Rick Warren and his followers view prophecy as a distraction and far to controversial so he may not realize he is preparing his followers for the coming of anti Christ not Jesus Christ. Ricks' three legged stool, "The private sector, the public sector and the faith sector coming together to feed the hungry and end aids". Tugs at our hearts but it's a deception. The serpent is subtle and tugs at the old nature to hope in this world. 

We are warned about deception more than anything else in the Olivet Discoarse, the apostles spoke of false teachers and false prophets and sound doctrine far more than time lines, but we pay attention to endless timelines which I'm starting to believe is a deception in and of itself.

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6 hours ago, Quasar93 said:

he prophetic chronological order of end times events as outlined in the Bible are as follows:

1. The very next prophetic event to take place will be the rapture of the Church, consisting of everyone who believes in Jesus Christ as Lord, regardless of denomination, or no denomination at all, as taught by both Jesus as well as the apostle Paul. In Jn.14:2-4, 28; 1 Thes.4:13-18; 2 Thes.2:1-8; Rev.3:10 and 4:1-2. All those who died in Christ, to all those who are still alive at His coming in the clouds of the sky, for His Church, where we will all meet Jesus, from where He will take us to our Father in heaven, as He promised us in Jn.14:2-4 and 28.

While I agree with the overall sentiment, there could very well be other prophetic events that take place before the Rapture.

 

6 hours ago, Quasar93 said:

2. The rapture of the Christian Church of Jesus Christ preceeds the revealing of the man of lawlessness/beast/antichrist, according to 2 Thes.2:3-4 and 7-8. Which then immediately sets off the seven years of tribulation, as recorded in Mt.24:4-31, Jesus amplification of Dan.9:27. Where the person who is all three of the "he's" in that verse, and the rider of the white horse in Rev.6:2, is revealed.  All of whom are the antichrist. It is at this stage of end times chronology the 70th Week of Dan.9:27 will begin.

The Church is Raptured before the Anti-Christ goes forth to Conquer, but why would you think Matthew 24:4-31 is END TIMES? I will grant you that Matthew 24:15-31 is END TIMES, but verses 1-6 is from Jesus to 70 AD and verses 7-14 is the 2000 year Church Age is it not? 

 

 

 


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5 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

While I agree with the overall sentiment, there could very well be other prophetic events that take place before the Rapture.

 

The Church is Raptured before the Anti-Christ goes forth to Conquer, but why would you think Matthew 24:4-31 is END TIMES? I will grant you that Matthew 24:15-31 is END TIMES, but verses 1-6 is from Jesus to 70 AD and verses 7-14 is the 2000 year Church Age is it not?

 

 

 

 

 

My chronological order of events cleary reveals, the pre-trib rapture of the Church comes before the Antichrist is revealed.

Jesus Olivet Discourse in Mt.24, Mk.13 and in Lk.21 is an amplification of Dan.9:27, and even more swo in Rev.6:1-15.  He covers it in Mt.24, from verse 4 through 31.  In verse 31 [Jesus second coming is in verse 30], Jesus angels will gather the ELECT from the four winds [Israel], and from one end of heaven to the other [the raptured church].

Hope this helps.

 

Quasar93

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3 hours ago, Quasar93 said:

My chronological order of events cleary reveals, the pre-trib rapture of the Church comes before the Antichrist is revealed.

 

The Rapture does take place before the Man of Sin is Revealed, however of he is alive today he still shows up before the rapture but is not REVEALED as the Beast. But I think there are other prophesies to come before both of those. But I get your gist, the Church is Raptured before the Beast Conquers Jerusalem.

 

3 hours ago, Quasar93 said:

Jesus Olivet Discourse in Mt.24, Mk.13 and in Lk.21 is an amplification of Dan.9:27, and even more swo in Rev.6:1-15.  He covers it in Mt.24, from verse 4 through 31.  In verse 31 [Jesus second coming is in verse 30], Jesus angels will gather the ELECT from the four winds [Israel], and from one end of heaven to the other [the raptured church].

Hope this helps.

Yes, I wanted to make sure before I put forth my analysis. 

Mathew 24:1-6 is from Jesus unto 70 AD. That is what Jesus meant by the END IS NOT YET !! This is not the Second Coming. This is not the Abomination of Desolation that happens via the end time Beast. the fake christ put forth was Jesus prophecy being fulfilled in John 5:43, the Pharisees thought Rome was the Fourth Beast (rightly so) so they tried to force a couple of "Messiahs" to the fore because there were expecting the Little Horn to come forth. 

Matthew 24:7-14 is he 2000 some odd year Church Age. The false prophets hear mean the David Koresh types, the Robert Tilton's, the Rabbis of the Law etc. etc. The Disciples were the ones spoken pf being put to death. The Gospel has to be preached unto all the world THEN THE END (Rapture/70TH Week). Those that endure unto the end confuses many, it just means we have to run the FULL RACE like Paul said, we must endure until the end of our lives. 

Matthew 24:15 is the first mention of the Tribulation Period. Thus THE Anti-Christ and THE False Prophet are shown in verse 24. Three mentions of fake christs, false prophets and fake christs and false prophets = THREE SEPARATE TIME PERIODS. 

 


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7 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

The Rapture does take place before the Man of Sin is Revealed, however of he is alive today he still shows up before the rapture but is not REVEALED as the Beast. But I think there are other prophesies to come before both of those. But I get your gist, the Church is Raptured before the Beast Conquers Jerusalem.

 

Yes, I wanted to make sure before I put forth my analysis. 

Mathew 24:1-6 is from Jesus unto 70 AD. That is what Jesus meant by the END IS NOT YET !! This is not the Second Coming. This is not the Abomination of Desolation that happens via the end time Beast. the fake christ put forth was Jesus prophecy being fulfilled in John 5:43, the Pharisees thought Rome was the Fourth Beast (rightly so) so they tried to force a couple of "Messiahs" to the fore because there were expecting the Little Horn to come forth. 

Matthew 24:7-14 is he 2000 some odd year Church Age. The false prophets hear mean the David Koresh types, the Robert Tilton's, the Rabbis of the Law etc. etc. The Disciples were the ones spoken pf being put to death. The Gospel has to be preached unto all the world THEN THE END (Rapture/70TH Week). Those that endure unto the end confuses many, it just means we have to run the FULL RACE like Paul said, we must endure until the end of our lives. 

Matthew 24:15 is the first mention of the Tribulation Period. Thus THE Anti-Christ and THE False Prophet are shown in verse 24. Three mentions of fake christs, false prophets and fake christs and false prophets = THREE SEPARATE TIME PERIODS. 

 

 

As I previously wrote, the Olivet Discourse by Jesus in Mt.24:4-31, and counter parts in Mk.13 and in Lk.21, consist of Jesus answers to the questions His disciples asked Him in verse 3: "What are the signs of your return and of the end of the age?"  As such, His response was an amplification of Dan.9:27, none of which has taken place yet.  Jesus firther amplified His Olivet Discourse, in Rev.6:1-15.  All of which pertain to end time events that have not uet taken place.

 

I do not agree with, nor accept allegorical attempts to interpret prophecy as you are doing.

 

 

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"Concerning the things to come, we should be prepared, not dogmatic"

 

Why not?

Something as significant as the Lord's immortality of His own is important

Those who are saved and ready will be made immortal just before the Lord brings His judgment upon an unbelieving world of humans

One can be saved during His wrath and judgment period of the 70th week if one will repent and turn to Him


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22 minutes ago, Daniel 11:36 said:

"Concerning the things to come, we should be prepared, not dogmatic"

 

Why not?

Something as significant as the Lord's immortality of His own is important

Those who are saved and ready will be made immortal just before the Lord brings His judgment upon an unbelieving world of humans

One can be saved during His wrath and judgment period of the 70th week if one will repent and turn to Him

 

Everyone who ever died in Christ, together with everyone who belongs to Jesus when He returns for His Church, in  1 Thess.4:14-17, will meet Him in the clouds of the sky together, and the Church age ends.

All those who will be saved during the tribulation, will be all those who are left be3hind, when the Church is raptured.  They will be saved by the 144,000 Israelite evangelists God will return to the earth, that He redeems from the earth [recorded in Rev.14:5], who will pay for their testimony of Jesus with their lives [Recorded in Rev.7:9-17 and 20-4].  They are the tribulation martyrs/saints, and do not belong to the Church, or they would be raptured with all other believers before the tribulation begins.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Quasar93 said:

 

As I previously wrote, the Olivet Discourse by Jesus in Mt.24:4-31, and counter parts in Mk.13 and in Lk.21, consist of Jesus answers to the questions His disciples asked Him in verse 3: "What are the signs of your return and of the end of the age?"  As such, His response was an amplification of Dan.9:27, none of which has taken place yet.  Jesus firther amplified His Olivet Discourse, in Rev.6:1-15.  All of which pertain to end time events that have not uet taken place.

 

I do not agree with, nor accept allegorical attempts to interpret prophecy as you are doing.

 

 

Quasar93

The Scriptures SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES, other would point to having an allegorical take on Daniel 9:27, of course that is hogwash since the understanding is the understanding it is what it is. Likewise Matthew 24 could not be any more clearer as per the DIVIDE. The Gospel has to be preached unto all the Earth, then the end will come. So anything before Matthew 24:14 is not during the Tribulation period, and its not even debatable. 

 

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