144.000 Thousand and Gods focus on Israel.

[JoeCanada]

17 minutes ago, Hadasa said:

 

I said the Rev14 will evangelize the world

Hi Hadasa....

The 144,000 are sealed AFTER the 6th seal. 

AFTER the 6th seal is the Resurrection, Rapture of the righteous in Christ. Then comes the Day of the Lord, the Day of His Wrath, a year long event. The 7th seal then opens up the Lamentations and Woes of God's Wrath, the trumpets and seals.

There is no time for the 144,000 to declare the gospel to the world. 

[Daniel 11:36]

" Then comes the Day of the Lord, the Day of His Wrath, a year long event"

 

Scriptures please

[JoeCanada]

13 minutes ago, Daniel 11:36 said:

" Then comes the Day of the Lord, the Day of His Wrath, a year long event"

 

Scriptures please

 

Isa 34:8.......For it is the day of the Lord's vengeance, and the year of recompences for the controversy of Zion.

Isa 61:2......To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn;

Isa 63:4......For the day of vengeance is in mine heart, and the year of my redeemed is come.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Daniel 11:36]

"For the day of vengeance is in mine heart, and the year of my redeemed is come"

 

Your answer is peace meal and not inclusive .... the day of the Lord will begin with the 70th week decreed for Israel, and from then on

The 70th week will begin in Revelation chapter 8 and end in Revelation chapter 19 .... all of the judgments will be from the Lord

Then He will gather all of the people who are left upon the earth and begin His 1000 year millennial kingdom upon the earth

Edited July 12, 2018 by Daniel 11:36

[JoeChan82]

4 hours ago, Hadasa said:

Then you have a problem with the Word! Learn the meaning of semantics.

se·man·tics

səˈman(t)iks/

noun

noun: semantics; noun: logical semantics; noun: lexical semantics

Nice dodge, but the burden of proof rests with you.

[Sister]

On 6/19/2018 at 5:13 AM, brujaq said:

Let me ask that previous question another way .. When Jesus feet hits the Mt of Olive to defeat all the enemies gathered against Israel is that his second return or his third and what part of the end time is that ? Plus are we taken up to be with him forever then on the way to the battle of Armageddon ? I'm thinking between mid and and post trib . I don't know

Hi brujaq

Jesus only comes once, and first only "appears" in the sky during the war of man against man in Israel.  This appearing stops that war.  They all "gather" at "Meggido" to prepare war against the Lamb now.  Jesus then descends on to the Mt of Olives where his feet touches the ground.  This is to lure the armies to come down from Meggido towards his direction.  They come down from the West and East surrounding the City of Jerusalem but with their faces towards the Mt of Olives where Christ is (East of the city)

* East down through the Valley of Jehoshaphat (Kidron Valley)

* West  down through the Hinnom Valley.
 

Jesus comes down to the Mount of Olives with "ten thousands of his saints", ...not "hundreds of thousands", of them, or "millions" of them, but coming down with his elect only, the firstfruits. (Zech 14:4, Jude 1:14, Rev 14:1)  The rest will be gathered shortly after.

 

 Jeremiah 31:40   And the whole valley of the dead bodies, and of the ashes, and all the fields unto the brook of Kidron, unto the corner of the horse gate toward the east, shall be holy unto the LORD; it shall not be plucked up, nor thrown down any more for ever.

 

Joel 3:12   Let the heathen be wakened, and come up to the valley of Jehoshaphat: for there will I sit to judge all the heathen round about.

 

 Jeremiah 7:32   Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that it shall no more be called Tophet, nor the valley of the son of Hinnom, but the valley of slaughter: for they shall bury in Tophet, till there be no place.

 

Joel 2:20   But I will remove far off from you the northern army, and will drive him into a land barren and desolate, with his face toward the east sea, (Dead Sea) and his hinder part toward the utmost sea, (Mediterranean Sea) and his stink shall come up, and his ill savour shall come up, because he hath done great things.

 

 

 

Edited July 16, 2018 by Sister

[Sister]

On 7/13/2018 at 3:02 AM, JoeCanada said:

Hi Hadasa....

The 144,000 are sealed AFTER the 6th seal. 

AFTER the 6th seal is the Resurrection, Rapture of the righteous in Christ. Then comes the Day of the Lord, the Day of His Wrath, a year long event. The 7th seal then opens up the Lamentations and Woes of God's Wrath, the trumpets and seals.

There is no time for the 144,000 to declare the gospel to the world. 

Hi JoeCanada

The 144K are sealed before the 6th seal. 

Revelation 7:3   Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

All the trumpets and the vials start at the 6th seal.  They are sealed before the plagues come.

The 7th Seal is when Christ judges the nations (only one day).  This is the 7th trump, the last trump.

 

 Revelation 16:17   And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

 

 Revelation 10:7   But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

[Sister]

Revelation 14:3   And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.

 

This song is the Old and New Testament.  They whole lot they were given.  They were given this before their resurrection.  The whole truth.  It's not new, because they've been singing it the whole time, so they sang it as if it was new.  They are glorifying, praising the Lord.

 

Revelation 15:3   And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints.

 

 

 

[Neighbor]

Bumped this older thread back up since the subject has come up once again.

[Salvation67]

@ENOCH2010 Matthew 24:16-18 says there is, Its just not said the way some people want it said.