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4 minutes ago, Heb 13:8 said:

and also Rev 12:5

We don't.

1 Cor 1:22-23 Jews demand signs and Greeks look for wisdom, 23but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles, 

So how are they getting signs when they don't believe in Christ?

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Thinking you all need to figure out the difference between ,Judah,Israel and Gentiles

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You all(rapturist)keep talking Israel,where the Heck is Judah?

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24 minutes ago, n2thelight said:

So how are they getting signs when they don't believe in Christ?

The signs become visible, which is the opposite of faith unseen.

18 minutes ago, n2thelight said:

Thinking you all need to figure out the difference between ,Judah,Israel and Gentiles

Why, what's up?

7 minutes ago, n2thelight said:

You all(rapturist)keep talking Israel,where the Heck is Judah?

Ioudaia: Judaea.
Original Word: Ἰουδαία, ας, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: Ioudaia
Phonetic Spelling: (ee-oo-dah'-yah)
Short Definition: Judea
Definition: Judea, a Roman province, capital Jerusalem.

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4 minutes ago, Heb 13:8 said:

The signs become visible, which is the opposite of faith unseen.

Why, what's up?

Ioudaia: Judaea.
Original Word: Ἰουδαία, ας, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: Ioudaia
Phonetic Spelling: (ee-oo-dah'-yah)
Short Definition: Judea
Definition: Judea, a Roman province, capital Jerusalem.

Don't need the meaning of Judah,need to know where you think they are, as scripture clearly show they are distinct from Israel.

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4 minutes ago, n2thelight said:

Don't need the meaning of Judah,need to know where you think they are, as scripture clearly show they are distinct from Israel.

Jerusalem is a city in the Middle East, located on a plateau in the Judaean Mountains between the Mediterranean and the Dead Sea.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem

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9 minutes ago, Heb 13:8 said:

The signs become visible, which is the opposite of faith unseen.

How the heck do signs become visible to unbelieving people,the signs were given by Christ himself to believers

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1 minute ago, Heb 13:8 said:

Jerusalem is a city in the Middle East, located on a plateau in the Judaean Mountains between the Mediterranean and the Dead Sea.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem

Don't worry bout it,need no more responses from you!!!!

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7 minutes ago, n2thelight said:

How the heck do signs become visible to unbelieving people,the signs were given by Christ himself to believers

They don't, they remain in unbelief.

6 minutes ago, n2thelight said:

Don't worry bout it,need no more responses from you!!!!

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4 hours ago, Heb 13:8 said:

RM, you had stated that they find peace after they repent, and you said they repent prior to the 70th week. Correct?

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The Church Repented 2000 years ago and Jesus said what? You will ALWAYS HAVE TRIBULATION. John in Rev. ch. 1 said to the 7 Churches, I am your brother in TRIBULATION. Repentance doesn't bring PEACE per se. We will have the peace of Christ in our hearts and we will eventually have peace with Christ Jesus/God at some point, but no one that understands prophecy thinks this peace will happen on earth until Jesus' Second Coming. The 1/3 of the Jews will be protected by God in Petra, but I don't call it Peace when many of your kin folks are being slaughtered. 

4 hours ago, Heb 13:8 said:

How is fleeing into the mountains to avoid the antichrist peaceful? If they've repented then why are they re-building the third temple for the antichrist?

Again, the PEACE QUIP comes from you, you are not understanding the PEACE spoken of in those verses you cited are speaking about a point in time after the SECOND COMING. You seemingly think we repentance come automatic peace but the Church REPENTED and still had tribulations, the Church only has peace after the Rapture to be with Jesus, likewise Israel will have PEACE when Jesus Returns, in both instances the presence of the Lord Jesus is required, we have PEACE OF MIND & SPIRIT with the Holy Spirit, but the Peace being described in those verses you cite is speaking about the 1000 year reign. The netter question is why do you think Israel has Peace before the Second Coming? They don't.

4 hours ago, Heb 13:8 said:

They've read Dan 9. Did Israel repent after they listened to God in Exod 14. No, they instead worshiped a golden calf in Exod 32.

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No, they have REPENTED Just like Malachi 4:5-6 says. That is why they Heed Jesus' voice. Why do you want to ignore Malachi ? 

4 hours ago, Heb 13:8 said:

2 Thess 2:4, Rev 11:1-2 ( naos )

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2 Thess. 2 is all about the Church departing before the Anti-Christ can be RELEASED to come forth. Rev. 11:1-2 has nothing to do with a Greek temple the book was just written in Greek. Those two verses are a METAPHOR for the Two-witnesses, they are to preach to the Jews (inner sanctum/Alter) but not unto the Gentiles. Remember how Jesus' Ministry was to the Jews only? Thus the Two-witnesses have likewise been called unto the Jews only. The Holy Spirit will call the Gentiles unto Repentance. Some do come to repent, they are the Beheaded unto the Alter in the 5th Seal. 

5 hours ago, Heb 13:8 said:

Because the end is the end.

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The 1000 year Reign isn't even the end. They are TRIED BY THE FIRE because they Repent and HEED Jesus words via FAITH !! We all live by Faith.

5 hours ago, Heb 13:8 said:

Rom 11:28-29 is referring to the calling of the elect, not Israel.

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Thus you totally miss the Rapture of the Gentile Elect, then the OPENING OF Israel's EYES, they are also the ELECT, anyone that BELIEVES in Christ is thus ELECTED unto Heaven. Thus the Jews who REPENT are just as ELECT as you are I, its not up to us to tell God how/what/when to do His calling home of His people. All because I bet you do not understand "there is neither Jew nor Gentile" well it has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that there are Jews and Gentiles, just like there are Geeks and American today. Paul is only speaking of how we all come unto God via FAITH ALONE !! We must all be SAVED in the exact same manner. But Gods TIMING is His business. He will call Israel unto REPENTANCE after the Church has been Raptured. FACTUAL. 

5 hours ago, Heb 13:8 said:

Do you believe that not every believer will be a martyr in the 70th week?

 

Those Jews who REPENT and HEED Jesus' call to Flee unto Petra will be PROTECTED. The Church is PROTECTED in Heaven, those Gentile Christians who come unto Christ during the 70th Week will be killed. The are the Martyrs under the Alter. WHY? Because God Promised Abraham a Continua SEED Forever, that is why, God can not lie !! 

5 hours ago, Heb 13:8 said:

 Rom 11:25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles

You changing/swapping bibles doesn't move me. I use two, the KJV and usually the Holman. Swapping to male a point has the opposite affect on me, I know what the fullness of the Gentiles mean, it means until their Ministry has come full........THE RAPTURE does away with the Gentile Church on earths Ministry. The Two-witnesses take over.

 

5 hours ago, Heb 13:8 said:

It seems to me that Israel is being delivered from the dragon in the latter 3.5 years.

 Rom 11:26 and in this way all Israel will be saved. As it is written: "The deliverer (rhuomai) will come from Zion; he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.

Rev 12:14-16 The woman was given the two wings of a great eagle, so that she might fly to the place prepared for her in the wilderness, where she would be taken care of for a time, times and half a time, out of the serpent’s reach. 15Then from his mouth the serpent spewed water like a river, to overtake the woman and sweep her away with the torrent. 16But the earth helped the woman by opening its mouth and swallowing the river that the dragon had spewed out of his mouth.

Romans 11:26 has nothing to do with these passages. Its speaking about Christ Jesus DELIVERING Israel from Son, its a SPIRITUAL DELIVERANCE, thus only 1/3 accept it. As per Rev. ch. 12, Satan (Dragon) ca chase no one, hes a Demon, of course he gets the Anti-Christ to come after Israel, just like he gt King Herod to come after the Baby Jesus trying to kill all Children under 2 years old. 

God Protects her for 1260 Days in Petra/Wilderness, so she Flees at the 1290 which is 30 days before the 1260. It means 1290 Days until Jesus' Second Coming. The Flood means an ARMY, not a River of water. God Protects her then the Dragon via the Anti-Christ/Beast comes after who ? The REMNANT CHURCH, whom of course he KILLS OFF.

5 hours ago, Heb 13:8 said:

The law doesn't keep a believer saved, the blood of Christ does.

That was not the POINT........The Point was the Covenant via Jesus Christ was the ORIGINAL COVENANT, the Law Covenant was added 430 years later. 

The Original Covenant with Abraham had ZERO to do with the Law..........Absolutely NOTHING !! 

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