Kristin Posted March 7, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 875 Content Per Day: 0.40 Reputation: 757 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/04/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted March 7, 2019 (edited) I’m not saying folks don’t need medical help. Healing is more than medicine. Medicine is legit. There is healing beyond that! I have been healed from prancreatitis. They told me it couldn’t be healed. I spoke over it in Jesus name for years. I am headed. No symptoms. Nothing. Praise our Lord! He will save us always don’t ever doubt. BELIEVE Edited March 7, 2019 by Kristin Bad grammar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyKay Posted March 7, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 12 Topic Count: 385 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 7,692 Content Per Day: 1.93 Reputation: 4,809 Days Won: 3 Joined: 05/28/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted March 7, 2019 5 hours ago, Mike Mclees said: The best stand is for Believers is to stay out of politics. Oh I could never do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debp Posted March 7, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 52 Topic Count: 1,023 Topics Per Day: 0.15 Content Count: 12,342 Content Per Day: 1.80 Reputation: 16,382 Days Won: 92 Joined: 07/19/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted March 7, 2019 On 3/5/2019 at 8:47 AM, PinkBelt said: There is no one reason, and countless articles have been written on the subject. I am studying to be a clinical psychologist and I also came out of an extremely right wing church/family environment. Given all this I feel qualified to give you the most convenient answers: - Racial grievances. - Job outsourcing with no lifeline made many people desperate, especially in steel and coal producing states. Trump promised them a lifeline. - Relative deprivation, which basically means thinking you are not getting things you're entitled to while those you perceive as "beneath" you get those things. - Lack of consistent values/hypocrisy. Many evangelicals have very high moral standards for whomever they oppose, but are willing to ignore those same values for themselves or their leaders. This is especially true if it's in pursuit of some end goal like the supreme court. In other words, in order to promote biblical values we must ignore them. The ends justify the means and so on. - Obsession over abortion and homosexuality. The politicians voted on their supposedly "pro-life/pro-marriage" platforms are robbing us and driving the nation over a cliff. But these single issue voters are so blinded by abortion and homosexuality to care about issues of corruption, oligarchy and human suffering cause by poverty. - Many evangelicals do not know what the bible actually says about the issues with which they are opposed. They get their biblical knowledge from their leaders who may or may not be giving accurate information. - And to be perfectly honest many evangelicals simply hate liberals more than they love Jesus. I voted for Clinton, but had it been almost any candidate other than Trump I'd have voted GoP. What you have written doesn't really apply to me. However, did want to make one point. One of the reasons I voted for Trump is that he will appoint conservative judges. Do you know that Californians voted against gay marriage twice? Each time we voted against it, the liberals appealed and got our votes overturned!! So we definitely need more conservatives on the bench to balance out the liberals. Btw, I don't hate anyone and I get along with my wide variety of neighbors. Just because a person doesn't agree with crazy policies doesn't make them a hater. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PinkBelt Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 (edited) You didn't read my entire post did you? 8 hours ago, Debp said: What you have written doesn't really apply to me. However, did want to make one point. One of the reasons I voted for Trump is that he will appoint conservative judges. Do you know that Californians voted against gay marriage twice? Each time we voted against it, the liberals appealed and got our votes overturned!! So we definitely need more conservatives on the bench to balance out the liberals. Btw, I don't hate anyone and I get along with my wide variety of neighbors. Just because a person doesn't agree with crazy policies doesn't make them a hater. On 3/5/2019 at 11:47 AM, PinkBelt said: There is no one reason, and countless articles have been written on the subject. I am studying to be a clinical psychologist and I also came out of an extremely right wing church/family environment. Given all this I feel qualified to give you the most convenient answers: - Racial grievances. - Job outsourcing with no lifeline made many people desperate, especially in steel and coal producing states. Trump promised them a lifeline. - Relative deprivation, which basically means thinking you are not getting things you're entitled to while those you perceive as "beneath" you get those things. - Lack of consistent values/hypocrisy. Many evangelicals have very high moral standards for whomever they oppose, but are willing to ignore those same values for themselves or their leaders. This is especially true if it's in pursuit of some end goal like the supreme court. In other words, in order to promote biblical values we must ignore them. The ends justify the means and so on. - Obsession over abortion and homosexuality. The politicians voted on their supposedly "pro-life/pro-marriage" platforms are robbing us and driving the nation over a cliff. But these single issue voters are so blinded by abortion and homosexuality to care about issues of corruption, oligarchy and human suffering cause by poverty. - Many evangelicals do not know what the bible actually says about the issues with which they are opposed. They get their biblical knowledge from their leaders who may or may not be giving accurate information. - And to be perfectly honest many evangelicals simply hate liberals more than they love Jesus. I voted for Clinton, but had it been almost any candidate other than Trump I'd have voted GoP. I am from LA and am well aware of what we did and didn't vote for. Edited March 7, 2019 by PinkBelt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyKay Posted March 7, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 12 Topic Count: 385 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 7,692 Content Per Day: 1.93 Reputation: 4,809 Days Won: 3 Joined: 05/28/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted March 7, 2019 14 hours ago, Kristin said: God WILL HEAL YOU WITHOUT INSURANCE! Unless, of course, you are in unbelief. This is a false teaching. Many who believe are never healed in this life. They do go on to be with the Lord in Haven. Careful how you judge others of having unbelief. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adstar Posted March 8, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 12 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,399 Content Per Day: 0.43 Reputation: 1,307 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/01/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted March 8, 2019 On 3/7/2019 at 7:08 AM, Mike Mclees said: The best stand is for Believers is to stay out of politics. Here it is. You've been TRUMPED!. Its to late now so live with it. Well i do not vote so... And i am not an American anyway.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaman 3.0 Posted March 8, 2019 Group: Graduated to Heaven Followers: 57 Topic Count: 1,546 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 10,320 Content Per Day: 1.41 Reputation: 12,323 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/15/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/05/1951 Share Posted March 8, 2019 On 2/27/2019 at 11:19 PM, jerryfhanson said: Trump fundamentally goes against my Christian Values, even as an Evangelical. Why did so many people vote for him? For me it was a simple choice, I felt compelled to make a countervote against Hillary, nor more than that. Had I abstained, that would have given her a tiny edge. Realistically though, unless God were to intervene, I could do not good, I live in California, a winner take all electoral state. Never-the-less, there were lot of evangelicals that could not see themselves voting for a lying, felonious, person who did not see fit to try to rescue soldiers and diplomats in trouble. As if her pro-baby killing stance, were not enough reason to reject her. Also important, is the appointment of supreme court justices - so no Hillary or even Bernie. We were not given many (any) viable choices. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debp Posted March 8, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 52 Topic Count: 1,023 Topics Per Day: 0.15 Content Count: 12,342 Content Per Day: 1.80 Reputation: 16,382 Days Won: 92 Joined: 07/19/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted March 8, 2019 22 hours ago, PinkBelt said: You didn't read my entire post did you? I am from LA and am well aware of what we did and didn't vote for. Yes, I did read your entire post. And again I state that just because I'm against crazy policies doesn't make me a hater. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firm Foundation Posted April 16, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 4 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,280 Content Per Day: 1.22 Reputation: 854 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/31/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted April 16, 2019 On 2/28/2019 at 2:19 AM, jerryfhanson said: Trump fundamentally goes against my Christian Values, even as an Evangelical. Why did so many people vote for him? He was the lesser of two evils. There was really no alternative. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
createdequal Posted August 9, 2019 Group: Catholic Followers: 3 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 591 Content Per Day: 0.34 Reputation: 96 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/05/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted August 9, 2019 On 2/27/2019 at 11:19 PM, jerryfhanson said: Trump fundamentally goes against my Christian Values, even as an Evangelical. Why did so many people vote for him? so what are your values? You are not pro life? did you vote for "kill them even when they are about to be born" Hillary?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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