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44 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

Hi,  Man is depraved. Man does immoral things, bad things, evil beyond comprehension things, all without Satan. Satan is not omnipresent, he is not everywhere at all times pulling strings and making man evil. Man is depraved. He has no excuse for his sin. He cannot blame his sin on Satan anymore than he could blame his first sin on the wo-man.

Adam kinda blamed God too. 

12 And the man said, The woman whom You gave to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I ate.

Not just the woman, but the woman You gave to adam.

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6 minutes ago, ayin jade said:

Adam kinda blamed God too. 

12 And the man said, The woman whom You gave to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I ate.

Not just the woman, but the woman You gave to adam.

Exactly.

God in his just anger issued three curses, one upon Satan one on Adam and one on Eve.

 

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2 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

Exactly. And God in his just anger issued three curses, one upon Satan one on Adam and one on Eve.

 

And the beauty of it is ,   THE SECOND ADAM , THE LORD FROM HEAVEN .    OH HE MADE THE WAY BACK and the lambs are no longer under the curse that the world

and those of it still are .      PRAISE the LORD for the LORD .      OH let all that has breath praise the LORD .   Let a joyous song of praise be sang to our ONLY HOPE who is the LORD .


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15 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

Yes of course. He could simply put an end to man and all of creation, that would be just.

Instead God has reconciled what is irreconcilable, His perfection and man's depravity, by dying himself for the sake of man that He created, covering man's depravity with God's own perfection, that is God's mercy and grace.

 

OH but the LORD is VERY LONG SUFFERING .     Is he not .     Desiring that none perish but that they would come to Christ .

But time is running out I must add .    Because the signs JESUS spoke of and the apostles spoke of ,    MAN they all around us now .

SO we KNOW it is the last time .    Let all that has breath praise the LORD and POINT to CHRIST the GLORY OF GOD and may folks run as fast as legs will carry them

to OUR BLESSED HOPE CHRIST the RISEN SAVOIR.    Cause if not , all who deny HIM will surely perish  .  OH but all who call upon HIM in SPIRIT and in TRUTH

the same shall be saved .     Now that is all the reason we need to just PRAISE THE LORD .     What mercy and grace Given us IN CHRIST .   


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3 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

Exactly.

God in his just anger issued three curses, one upon Satan one on Adam and one on Eve.

 

There are several problems with this statement. In the first place, God did not issue three curses --- he issued just two, one on the serpent and one on the earth. Adam and Eve were not cursed. Secondly, Satan makes no appearance in Genesis. The antagonist (in the literary sense) is the serpent who apparently was annoyed by not being chosen as Adam's companion.


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47 minutes ago, Firm Foundation said:

God could still put an end to evil this instant but doesn't.  It is in his power to do it.  That means he must have a purpose for it.

It is us who have a purpose for sin, not God.  If God had a purpose, why would the whole bible point to sin as wrong and warn us against it?


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5 hours ago, Takoda said:

There are several problems with this statement. In the first place, God did not issue three curses --- he issued just two, one on the serpent and one on the earth. Adam and Eve were not cursed. Secondly, Satan makes no appearance in Genesis. The antagonist (in the literary sense) is the serpent who apparently was annoyed by not being chosen as Adam's companion.

Thanks, but I will stay with my statement.


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13 hours ago, Neighbor said:

Yes of course. He could simply put an end to man and all of creation, that would be just.

Instead God has reconciled what is irreconcilable, His perfection and man's depravity, by dying himself for the sake of man that He created, covering man's depravity with God's own perfection, that is God's mercy and grace.

 

Or he could simply eliminate the devil and the demons.  There is no redemption for them.  What possible reason is there for them to be allowed to continue to cause problems for mankind?


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13 hours ago, OneLight said:

It is us who have a purpose for sin, not God.  If God had a purpose, why would the whole bible point to sin as wrong and warn us against it?

What purpose do we have for sin, and why do we need the devil and demons making things harder for us?


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4 minutes ago, Firm Foundation said:

Or he could simply eliminate the devil and the demons.  There is no redemption for them.  What possible reason is there for them to be allowed to continue to cause problems for mankind?

Have you ever watched a movie where as quick as the enemy hordes are eliminated they are replaced by more? The same applies to mankind with respect to eliminating sin, because we are all given a dimension of freewill.  Regardless of the influence of Satan and his demons, the thought in mankind to oppose God is still an option.

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