Timing of the two witnesses, by working backwards

[douggg]

Working backwards,

Revelation 20:1-3......Satan chained and cast into the bottomless pit

Revelation 19:11-20....Jesus returns

Revelation 12:14.........Satan persecutes the woman, a time, times, half times

Revelation 12:12 ........Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and sea

Revelation 12: 9-10...Satan cast down to the earth

Revelation 12:7-9......War in the second heaven

Revelation 11:18.........Time of God's wrath has come

Revelation 11:15.........The seventh angel sounds his trumpet

Revelation 11:14.........Time has come for the third woe

Revelation 11:11..........The two witnesses come back to life and ascend to heaven

Revelation 11:7...........The beast kills the two witnesses, at the end of their testimony

Revelation 11:3...........The two witnesses begin their 1260 days of prophesying

Daniel 9:27.................The prince who shall come confirms the covenant with many for 7 years.

 

Conclusion:  The 1260 days of the two witnesses is the first half of the seven years.

[nobleseed]

38 minutes ago, douggg said:

Working backwards,

Revelation 20:1-3......Satan chained and cast into the bottomless pit

Revelation 19:11-20....Jesus returns

Revelation 12:14.........Satan persecutes the woman, a time, times, half times

Revelation 12:12 ........Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and sea

Revelation 12: 9-10...Satan cast down to the earth

Revelation 12:7-9......War in the second heaven

Revelation 11:18.........Time of God's wrath has come

Revelation 11:15.........The seventh angel sounds his trumpet

Revelation 11:14.........Time has come for the third woe

Revelation 11:11..........The two witnesses come back to life and ascend to heaven

Revelation 11:7...........The beast kills the two witnesses, at the end of their testimony

Revelation 11:3...........The two witnesses begin their 1260 days of prophesying

Daniel 9:27.................The prince who shall come confirms the covenant with many for 7 years.

 

Conclusion:  The 1260 days of the two witnesses is the first half of the seven years.

who is this prince u refer to, do u also believe in the coming of another

[douggg]

12 hours ago, nobleseed said:

who is this prince u refer to, do u also believe in the coming of another

The prince who shall come will be the little horn person.   Coming to the middle east and Israel, following Gog/Magog.    Under the pretense of peace keeper, but the underlying motivation for the EU, which the little horn person will be leader of, will be to gain control of all the middle east oil.

The Jews will believe the prince who shall come, the little horn person, is the messiah.    Yes, the another, they will embrace to be anointed their King of Israel.

It is only a matter of time before the EU transforms to the ten leader (not necessarily nations) form of government, which the little horn will be selected to be the overall leader of the EU.

Later, after he becomes the King of Israel, then betrays them, and subsequently becomes the beast of Revelation 13, the EU ten leaders will agree to him being dictator of the EU.    Revelation 17:16-17.

 

Edited August 4, 2019 by douggg

[Diaste]

It make a great deal of sense the two witnesses will arrive when the beast rises. There has to be opposition to Satan's plan and Godly, spiritual warnings and exhortations concerning the near future.

 

[douggg]

6 hours ago, Diaste said:

It make a great deal of sense the two witnesses will arrive when the beast rises. There has to be opposition to Satan's plan and Godly, spiritual warnings and exhortations concerning the near future.

 

The two witnesses begin their 1260 days of testimony, when the person first becomes the Antichrist, by being anointed the King of Israel, and beginning the 7 years.      They will be prophesying against him during most of the first half.

Near the end of the first half, the Antichrist stops the daily sacrifice.     And goes into the temple, sits, claims to be God.     The Jews will impeach him from being the King of Israel for his act, ending his time in being in the role of the Antichrist.

God has him killed for his act.   And in disdain for him, brings the person back alive, which at that time, the person become the beast.    Close to the end of the two witnesses time.

The AoD image is made and placed in the temple, then, on day 1185 of the 7 years.  (2520-1335).     The two witnesses battle the beast as the Jews flee, for 75 days, until the beast kills the two witnesses.    The two witnesses come back to life and ascend to heaven, 3 1/2 days later.      The beat rules the 42 months, unimpeded as the two witnesses will be gone.     Until Jesus returns, and end the beast rule.

Edited August 4, 2019 by douggg

[Diaste]

5 hours ago, douggg said:

The AoD image is made and placed in the temple, then, on day 1185 of the 7 years.  (2520-1335).     The two witnesses battle the beast as the Jews flee, for 75 days, until the beast kills the two witnesses.    The two witnesses come back to life and ascend to heaven, 3 1/2 days later.      The beat rules the 42 months, unimpeded as the two witnesses will be gone.     Until Jesus returns, and end the beast rule.

As I have no understanding about the 75 days, even though I have given it a good deal of consideration, I find your take very interesting.

"And the woman fled into the wilderness, where God had prepared a place for her to be nourished for 1,260 days." - Rev 12

If this all in Israel who decide to run, some from Jordan and Palestine as well perhaps, it will take some time for them all to assemble. Maybe 2.5 months. That could fit very well indeed. 

 

[douggg]

40 minutes ago, Diaste said:

As I have no understanding about the 75 days, even though I have given it a good deal of consideration, I find your take very interesting.

"And the woman fled into the wilderness, where God had prepared a place for her to be nourished for 1,260 days." - Rev 12

If this all in Israel who decide to run, some from Jordan and Palestine as well perhaps, it will take some time for them all to assemble. Maybe 2.5 months. That could fit very well indeed. 

 

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In Matthew 24, when Jesus said to flee into the mountains when they see the abomination of desolation standing (the statue image of the beast in the standing position) in  the holy place - they should not delay, flee right away.      This is because there will be a limit window for fleeing.   That window for fleeing will be the 75 days.    After that, the fleeing will become much more difficult.

 

Matthew 24:

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

Edited August 4, 2019 by douggg

[Revelation Man]

14 hours ago, douggg said:

Working backwards,

Revelation 20:1-3......Satan chained and cast into the bottomless pit

Revelation 19:11-20....Jesus returns

Revelation 12:14.........Satan persecutes the woman, a time, times, half times

Revelation 12:12 ........Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and sea

Revelation 12: 9-10...Satan cast down to the earth

Revelation 12:7-9......War in the second heaven

Revelation 11:18.........Time of God's wrath has come

Revelation 11:15.........The seventh angel sounds his trumpet

Revelation 11:14.........Time has come for the third woe

Revelation 11:11..........The two witnesses come back to life and ascend to heaven

Revelation 11:7...........The beast kills the two witnesses, at the end of their testimony

Revelation 11:3...........The two witnesses begin their 1260 days of prophesying

Daniel 9:27.................The prince who shall come confirms the covenant with many for 7 years.

 

Conclusion:  The 1260 days of the two witnesses is the first half of the seven years.

And you are supposed to be good at math {engineer right ? } 

THEY DIE AT THE 2ND WOE......the 7th Trump is the 3rd Woe thus you think {I Guess} that one Woe last 1260 days !! This is basic math man.

1.) Anti-Christ enters into AGREEMENTS {There is no "Sinai Covenant Deal" with anyone} with MANY NATIONS in the Mediterranean Sea Region and one of them will be Israel. It's called the E.U. Neighborhood Policy IMHO. He reups it after the Rapture of the church.

2.) At the 3.5 year mark the Anti-Christs "COVERING/Veil" is taken off or he's REVEALED as per to who he is when he goes forth Conquering at the 1260 Day mark of the 70th Week tribulation period. {really day 1261....there is 1260 days REMAINING till the 2nd coming}. So the First Seal is broken on day 1261 and we are supposed to believe that after the 7th Trumpet blows there are still 1260 days {half the week as you say} left in the 70th week ? Really ?

The real way to work backwards....the Two-witnesses die at the 2nd Woe which we know is the 6th Trumpet. The 7th Trumpet is the 3rd Woe which is the inal 7 Vials that are poured out on mankind. Thus backtracking one understands that if the Two-witnesses die JUST BEFORE the 3rd Woe where the Anti-Christ/Beast dies, then they must also SHOW UP JUST BEFORE he does at the First Seal....and the bible tell us this is true in Malachi chapter 4.

Malachi 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord:6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

I have been telling you this for three years brother Doug, I don't see it being accepted anytime soon, but this is basic math stuff brother. 2 + 2 = 4.

Edited August 4, 2019 by Revelation Man

[kenny2212]

The period during which the two witnesses prophesy is the second half of the tribulation period. It's really very simple.

Revelation 11:2-3 : 

 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

AND I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

From the passage it is clear that the two witnesses prophesy during the same time the Antichrist and his forces trample Jerusalem underfoot.

Notice the conjunction AND tying verses 2 and 3 together.

The Antichrist is peaceful during the first three-and-a-half years but becomes the beast for the second half of the tribulation period.

 

[douggg]

On 8/4/2019 at 12:47 PM, Revelation Man said:

THEY DIE AT THE 2ND WOE......the 7th Trump is the 3rd Woe thus you think {I Guess} that one Woe last 1260 days !! This is basic math man.

No, the two witnesses are killed before woes 1 and 2 and 3 begin.

first half - 1260 days.

second half -  the woes.

 

Revealed (what the woes are)

Woe one - the release of the flesh tormenting locust

Woe three - the 200,000, 000 strong army that kills a 1/3 of mankind

Woe three -  the wrath of Satan taking place during the time, times, half times

 

Take place order (timeline order)

wrath of Satan taking place during the time, times, half times

the release of the flesh tormenting locust when Satan is cast down, to begin the time, times, half times.

the 200,000, 000  strong army that kills a 1/3 of mankind as the kings of the east head to the middle east, near the close of the 7 years.

 

Edited August 7, 2019 by douggg