ayin jade Posted September 2, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.87 Content Count: 43,796 Content Per Day: 6.20 Reputation: 11,243 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted September 2, 2019 In their view, they likely think they are not hurting anyone by telling the world they left their faith. They likely do not see the harm in doing so. They likely think they are taking the high road in being honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who me Posted September 2, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,300 Content Per Day: 1.71 Reputation: 1,686 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/27/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted September 2, 2019 On 9/1/2019 at 12:23 PM, Equippers said: some of you may have heard that Marty Sampson, the high profile Christian music writer who formerly led worship and write songs for Hillsong had openly proclaimed himself as no longer a Christian. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/marty-sampson-hillsong-christianity-doubt_n_5d605421e4b02cc97c8d8724 do you think he did the right thing by sharing his doubts so openly? for me, i feel like you can look at this in several different ways the first way is they should not be sharing their doubts so publicly, because it would lead to others abandoning their faith as well the second way to look at the situation why they choose to leave their faith? and how we as Christians should deal with brothers and sisters who have lost their ways. i think we should be concerned at what is happening to them, pray for them and win them back to Christ. the third way to look at the situation is their open sharing of doubts can be a great conversation starters. Because i imagine they are not the only Christians who struggles with their faith, and by them openly sharing their doubts, we can have a open, honest, public conversation about their doubts, which would help many Christians who are going through the same thing? so what do you think? The real need is for preaches to teach Christians about the faith and to answer questions and doubts. Wintery knights today's post is about the shame or discard it is to preachers who will not educate, answer the doubts of Christians. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis1209 Posted September 2, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 349 Topics Per Day: 0.13 Content Count: 7,505 Content Per Day: 2.70 Reputation: 5,402 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/27/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted September 2, 2019 On 9/1/2019 at 6:23 AM, Equippers said: some of you may have heard that Marty Sampson, the high profile Christian music writer who formerly led worship and write songs for Hillsong had openly proclaimed himself as no longer a Christian. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/marty-sampson-hillsong-christianity-doubt_n_5d605421e4b02cc97c8d8724 do you think he did the right thing by sharing his doubts so openly? for me, i feel like you can look at this in several different ways the first way is they should not be sharing their doubts so publicly, because it would lead to others abandoning their faith as well the second way to look at the situation why they choose to leave their faith? and how we as Christians should deal with brothers and sisters who have lost their ways. i think we should be concerned at what is happening to them, pray for them and win them back to Christ. the third way to look at the situation is their open sharing of doubts can be a great conversation starters. Because i imagine they are not the only Christians who struggles with their faith, and by them openly sharing their doubts, we can have a open, honest, public conversation about their doubts, which would help many Christians who are going through the same thing? so what do you think? 2 Thessalonians 2:3 (KJV) Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Falling away: ἀποστασία apostasía, ap-os-tas-ee'-ah, feminine of the same as G647; defection from truth (properly, the state) ("apostasy"):—falling away, forsake. feminine noun. IMO. We're seeing apostasy today like never before. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeauJangles Posted September 2, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 43 Topic Count: 229 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 10,900 Content Per Day: 2.92 Reputation: 12,145 Days Won: 68 Joined: 02/13/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1954 Share Posted September 2, 2019 3 hours ago, Debp said: I wonder if they are married? If so, probably their spouses are shocked. Joshua Harris was married, and currently separated according to the article. Yeah, it's really sad. If someone wants to go nuts and jump into the LGBT lifestyle after years of marriage, that's one thing. But making an utterly shameless public statement and display is another altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyKay Posted September 2, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 12 Topic Count: 385 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 7,692 Content Per Day: 1.92 Reputation: 4,809 Days Won: 3 Joined: 05/28/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted September 2, 2019 On 9/1/2019 at 7:23 AM, Equippers said: do you think he did the right thing by sharing his doubts so openly? I'm not sure if making a post on your doubts for all the world to see is a good thing to do. But some people do communicate what they are going through better that way. I know that I do. But I think that Christian should never feel afraid about sharing any doubts they may have with fellow Christians. All of us should be able to turn to a fellow Christian and share what we are feeling and share that we have doubts about things without fear of judgment. Sometimes you just need a good, Christian to help you break through stuff you are going through. No Christian should ever feel judgment or shame for sharing a weak point in their life with a fellow Christian. We all go through things. Anyway. That is how I feel about that. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saved34 Posted September 2, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,185 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 667 Days Won: 3 Joined: 03/28/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/19/1971 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Coming out publicly is all in satans plan. His whole mission is to discredit Christianity to the world. He loves to mock God’s truth. What better way than to show what seem to be good Christian men renounce their faith and support sinful lifestyles. 1Ti 4:1 The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. We have to keep our hands to the plow, and keep standing for Jesus. As my old mentor used to say, “we must continue to hold up the blood stained banner”. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis1209 Posted September 2, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 349 Topics Per Day: 0.13 Content Count: 7,505 Content Per Day: 2.70 Reputation: 5,402 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/27/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted September 2, 2019 1 hour ago, LadyKay said: I'm not sure if making a post on your doubts for all the world to see is a good thing to do. But some people do communicate what they are going through better that way. I know that I do. But I think that Christian should never feel afraid about sharing any doubts they may have with fellow Christians. All of us should be able to turn to a fellow Christian and share what we are feeling and share that we have doubts about things without fear of judgment. Sometimes you just need a good, Christian to help you break through stuff you are going through. No Christian should ever feel judgment or shame for sharing a weak point in their life with a fellow Christian. We all go through things. Anyway. That is how I feel about that. 1 Thessalonians 5:11 (KJV) Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Bought 1953 Posted September 3, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 13 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,726 Content Per Day: 2.86 Reputation: 6,258 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/03/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted September 3, 2019 9 hours ago, saved34 said: Coming out publicly is all in satans plan. His whole mission is to discredit Christianity to the world. He loves to mock God’s truth. What better way than to show what seem to be good Christian men renounce their faith and support sinful lifestyles. 1Ti 4:1 The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. We have to keep our hands to the plow, and keep standing for Jesus. As my old mentor used to say, “we must continue to hold up the blood stained banner”. Was your “ old mentor” Oliver Greene by any chance? He used to be on the radio here everyday......I listened to him many hundreds of times.....excellant teacher.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted September 3, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,992 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,690 Content Per Day: 11.77 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted September 3, 2019 It would be nice to know where they really stand. If they do not believe then be honest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saved34 Posted September 3, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,185 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 667 Days Won: 3 Joined: 03/28/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/19/1971 Share Posted September 3, 2019 42 minutes ago, Blood Bought 1953 said: Was your “ old mentor” Oliver Greene by any chance? He used to be on the radio here everyday......I listened to him many hundreds of times.....excellant teacher.... Yep, I got saved under his ministry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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