ROMANS 16:7 IN CHRIST BEFORE PAUL

[other one]

Just now, johnthebaptist said:

Discussions don't need to be complicated, do they? Love the Lord with all your heart, mind, and soul, and love your neighbor as yourself. What else do we need to know?

then one should not cover anything else on these forums but those two things.... and while those two things cover salvation issues they do not answer all questions that come up....   

[johnthebaptist]

Just now, other one said:

then one should not cover anything else on these forums but those two things.... and while those two things cover salvation issues they do not answer all questions that come up....   

People have questions sometimes.

[johnthebaptist]

4 minutes ago, Blood Bought 1953 said:

 

It shows.....

I can usually answer a question in a sentence or two. None of my posts are long.

[Blood Bought 1953]

1 minute ago, johnthebaptist said:

Discussions don't need to be complicated, do they? Love the Lord with all your heart, mind, and soul, and love your neighbor as yourself. What else do we need to know?

 

We need to know that nobody but Jesus ever obeyed these two commands .......we need a “ loop- hole”. Is there one? I believe there is a giant one! I can even pinpoint exactly where it can be found! Look in 1Cor15:1-4.... by golly, There “ IS” one ! Let’s thank God for His Love and His Amazing Grace !

 

[johnthebaptist]

1 minute ago, Blood Bought 1953 said:

 

We need to know that nobody but Jesus ever obeyed these two commands .......we need a “ loop- hole”. Is there one? I believe there is a giant one! I can even pinpoint exactly where it can be found! Look in 1Cor15:1-4.... by golly, There “ IS” one ! Let’s thank God for His Love and His Amazing Grace !

 

We've all sinned, but we need to repent, according to Jesus (Matt 4:17).

[Retrobyter]

On 12/6/2019 at 11:18 PM, Willa said:

The fact is that Peter and Paul preached the same gospel.  This was verified when Paul went to Jerusalem to compare his teaching to the other apostles.  Paul challenged Peter about circumcision but Peter agreed with him.  The trust of this is that the Holy Spirit inspired all of the New Testament and Old Testament 66 book cannon.  One of the proofs is that there is no error found there like those found in the aprocrypha.

2Pe 3:15  And count the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, 2Pe 3:16  as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures.

Shabbat shalom, Willa.

Actually, while Peter and Paul preached the same gospel, it is PAUL who is most misunderstood! Everyone should know that Peter preached (heralded) the gospel (good news) about the Kingdom of God; however, SO DID PAUL! To his gospel was ADDED the "death, burial, and resurrection of our Lord Yeshua` the Messiah." (1 Corinthians 15:1-4ff.) That did not constitute his WHOLE take on the gospel!

Anyone who reads Romans chapters 9 through 11 and Ephesians 2 should be able to come to the same conclusion (if one doesn't go into these chapters with preconceived expectations and reads his writings instead with an open mind).

And, you may not recognize it, but the "church" (Greek: ekkleesia = "a called-out" assembly) actually began with the Exodus from Egypt! The very first such congregation was the children of Israel around Mount Sinai, when God PERSONALLY and AUDIBLY talked to them all!

Stephen said,

Acts 7:35-40 (KJV)

35 "This Moses whom they refused, saying,

'Who made thee a ruler and a judge?' 

the same did God send to be a ruler and a deliverer by the hand of the angel which appeared to him in the bush. 36 He brought them out, after that he had shewed wonders and signs in the land of Egypt, and in the Red sea, and in the wilderness forty years. 37 This is that Moses, which said unto the children of Israel,

'A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear.'

38 This is he, that was in the church (Greek: ekkleesia) in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us: 
39 To whom our fathers would not obey, but thrust him from them, and in their hearts turned back again into Egypt, 40 Saying unto Aaron,

'Make us gods to go before us: for as for this Moses, which brought us out of the land of Egypt, we wot not what is become of him.'..."

[Leonardo Von]

On 12/6/2019 at 11:23 AM, douge said:

Those in Christ before Paul had believed the preaching of Peter and the apostles. They were not in the body of Christ.

I don't agree. Everyone who believe in Christ is member of His body.