Does any have less respect for Jay Sekulow and etc now for being a mouthpiece for Trump

[one.opinion]

On 1/23/2020 at 6:28 PM, Omegaman 3.0 said:

Was/is Trump the ideal person for the office of the Presidency? Certainly not! Were we offered a better candidate who could actually win the office? Probably not!

Mike Pence, of course, would become President should Trump be removed from the office. I honestly don't know a great deal about Pence's political ideas, but I doubt they would stray much from the current party line and a man with much greater integrity and unquestioned Christian values would be in office. I don't really see how this could be a negative outcome from a Christian's perspective.

I am not completely confident that President Trump should be removed from office, but I think it is readily apparent to any unbiased person familiar with the facts that he did indeed attempt to use his political power for personal gain. I just do not know enough to state whether or not that is an impeachable offense. The whole situation is sad and frustrating since there has been plenty of dirty dealing on both sides of the aisle.

Edited January 28, 2020 by one.opinion

[other one]

On 1/23/2020 at 12:32 PM, LadyKay said:

Well that is what the impeachment trial is for.   For more knowledgeable minds then mine to determine  if it is or not. But if you are asking me. I think it is. 

they started trying to impeach him less than an hour after he was sworn into office....

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On 1/22/2020 at 3:35 PM, Omegaman 3.0 said:

. . . and maybe some day, a person like that will be nominated to run for office by a major party, when that happens, I will likely vote for him/her. I am not going to hold my breath though!

LoL  you will not find anyone you will like until Jesus comes back.

[Omegaman 3.0]

9 minutes ago, one.opinion said:

Mike Pence, of course, would become President should Trump be removed from the office. I honestly don't know a great deal about Pence's political ideas, but I doubt they would stray much from the current party line and a man with much greater integrity and unquestioned Christian values would be in office. I don't really see how this could be a negative outcome from a Christian's perspective.

That is true, and a good observation. However, while Pence could be a good pres, we know what Trump is. He does not seem to be a Christian, but he is effective. Additionally, I am not one who wants to have Trump removed for reasons that are not really grounds of removal. If these sorts of "charges" were to be retroactively applied to past presidents, I wonder how many would not be impeached!

On the other hand, if Trump has done anything while in office that does warrant impeachment, then for sure, go for it. Just stop wasting taxpayer money on witch hunts. Though I doubt it would happen, if impeachment were to be justified, I would hope it would be the Republican party that would impeach a Republican party. As I just said, I doubt that would happen, but republicans sure do not circle the wagons to protect the guilt like the Democrats do! Republicans are more likely to shoot their wounded, historically.

[Omegaman 3.0]

1 minute ago, other one said:

LoL  you will not find anyone you will like until Jesus comes back.

True enough, but I can hope, that someday there will be someone relatively acceptable, at least an improvement!

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1 minute ago, Omegaman 3.0 said:

If these sorts of "charges" were to be retroactively applied to past presidents, I wonder how many would not be impeached!

 

I doubt there would be any...   all you have to do is disagree with congress on something....

But in President Trump's situation he didn't have to do anything...   they started setting him up for impeachment about a half hour after he was sworn in....    so I guess they didn't like the, "so help me God" thing...

 

[other one]

1 minute ago, Omegaman 3.0 said:

True enough, but I can hope, that someday there will be someone relatively acceptable, at least an improvement!

I would not put my trust in the Vice President even on that level....   there are potential problems there also.

[one.opinion]

3 minutes ago, Omegaman 3.0 said:

As I just said, I doubt that would happen, but republicans sure do not circle the wagons to protect the guilt like the Democrats do! Republicans are more likely to shoot their wounded, historically.

While that may be true historically, it doesn't seem to apply to this administration. There are several long-serving Republicans that have completely reversed their position from the Clinton impeachment. Currently the Republican Senate has made an impervious wall against Trump's removal from office. Even if it were clear that he should be removed from office, I do not think the Senate would allow it to happen.

[Omegaman 3.0]

10 minutes ago, other one said:

I would not put my trust in the Vice President even on that level....   there are potential problems there also.

I did not have Pence in mind, when I said that!

[one.opinion]

13 minutes ago, other one said:

I would not put my trust in the Vice President even on that level....   there are potential problems there also.

What are these potential problems? I'm probably not as familiar with Pence as I should be.