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5 hours ago, Blood Bought 1953 said:

As far as I am concerned......Allah is Satan

Perhaps, the Allah of Islam, yes, but the Allah if Arabic speaking Christians, is the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the Father of Jesus, the Son of God, Messiah of the Jews.

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50 minutes ago, Blood Bought 1953 said:

Every Soul in Hell will be there for one reason— Unbelief. NOT bad behavior

I sort of agree with that, but I would modify it to say that they are there because of their sin, and they were not rescued from. Had the had faith, they would have been. God both punishes sin eternally, and provides an eternal rescue from that to some.


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10 minutes ago, Margo1945 said:

when Christ returns, all knees will bow to Him, so all will know Whom He is then and all will bow their knee to Him even though not all will accept Him .. they will know so they can accept or reject .. at any rate

compelled to clarify, that it is not knowing about Jesus that is important in the long run. Demons know more about God/Jesus than I do, most likely. The difference is in the relationship, it is intimacy, not awareness, that marks us as God's children. We both bow to him reverently, and come to the throne of grace with confidence, instead of cowering in the realization of our doom!

 

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5 hours ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

That's mans reasoning .     We need only preach the gospel .     Those who hear amen , those who don't ,  its on them .

They must forsake all and follow Christ .   I wont preach a gospel that contains a mixture .      Just tell them the gospel ,  God knows who is coming and Who is not .

The problem is ,   too many sat under the new way to evangelize and its not good .

If folks believe in budda , muslim , or who knows what ,   the message is the same , and all those other lies , need to be fled .

We don't try and let a muslim believe he can have both .   For we preach not a gospel that partakes of both Christ and belial .     

Simply preach the gospel .    That simple .    This other way no workey .      Ya cant bring them to CHRIST through the koran either .    HES NOT IN THERE .    But pick up a bible and teach torah 

and explain and show them CHRIST in that .     

I cant bring a witch to JESUS through her witchcraft ,    nor can a man bring one to CHRIST through any other book or religion .   JUST PREACH HIM and its just that simple . 

 

It's the most safe way to preach in Gospel only if a conflicts would happen. I didn't talk about anything, I talk about a vision which said that's possible, another vision also told that Quran in the era of the prophet used with Torah in some way because that era was Torah-like era but this era is Gospel-like era. Maybe if it's possible, I think Quran will work like an old testament, we know that the old testament nature is different than Gospel nature.

 

11 hours ago, Margo1945 said:

I have read many parts of the Qur'an .. Allah is formerly the moon god who was one of 360 gods/goddesses .. Muhammed changed the moon god's name Alilah to Allah .. Muhammed, also, wrote the Qur'an .. Allah is one god but a false god and he has no children .. Jesus Christ for Islam is not the same as the Christian Jesus Christ .. Islamic Jesus Christ is Isa who is man only, not deity .. Allah picks and chooses who goes to paradise and the only ones who go for sure are those who fight  in jihad aka holy war and they lounge on beds and have beautiful young boys waiting on them and they have 72 virgins with big beautiful "eyes" but eyes is another name for breasts .. the virgins are constantly remade into virgins by Allah .. lol .. anyway, Christianity and Islam are totally different and Christianity is TRUE and Islam is FALSE .. hope this helps separate TRUTH from FALSEHOOD

I heard atheists said the same you said. "Allah" is a proper name in Arabic for the same god of Abraham, we don't have to force Arabs to call God in Hebrew name to be sure that they're calling the same god. God description in Quran like his one in Torah for first Jewish understanding, no one of 'em can expect that God can have a real son literally, Quran is close to Torah in that. Many information you read in internet about Quran are fake.


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 2Th 1:8 NKJV  in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. 2Th 1:9  These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power,

Muslims believe in a god of violence and those in Iran have sworn to destroy us and Israel.  Some parts of the Koran are not violent and others are extremely so, promoting cutting off heads and disemboweling people who don't obey sharia law.  


 


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I just want to issue a warning to us all, about the thread. Once again, we are getting off track from the topic, you know, about other faiths?

It is descending into the  pit we dig about are Christians saved or not, it so which ones and on which basis. We have explained a few opinions of the basis, but if we are going to make it more in house arguing, I am going to close the thread.

Basically then answer to the question is NO, other faiths are not saved. The Jesus of the Bible, the Jesus of history is the key. Not the made up Jesus of non-Christian faiths, not anyone but Jesus.

10let it be known to all of you and to all the people of Israel that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead—by him this man is standing before you well. 11This Jesusa is the stone that was rejected by you, the builders, which has become the cornerstone.b 12And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among menc by which we must be saved.”

We Christians seem like bigots to many, because we tell the truth that there is only one way to be saved. So be it, we are not willing to lie to people to make them feel better, we would rather they be offended but let then hear the gospel so that they may come to faith and eternal life. As Jesus, said,

Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.


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IMHO, I'm of the mind that,no, there will not be other faiths in heaven. It's only this side of Glory that there are divisions between people. When we are in Glory, all that we've known here will be no more, forgotten, we'll all be too busy giving Praise and Honour and Worship to The Lord, just saying, God bless.


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23 hours ago, Margo1945 said:

the plain simple answer is NOOOOO, no one of other faiths will be in the Christian Heaven and not all who claim to be Christian will be either .. only those who are TRUE CHRISTIANS will be in Heaven .. no others, no matter what ..

I believe this way also.  So, what do you think happens to otherwise kind and decent people who were of other faiths and did not give their lives to Christ?  I believe all sin will be destroyed in hell including sinners who did not accept Christ.  However, I believe that the punishment will fit the crime, and as jesus said "those who committed offenses and did not know will be beaten with few stripes and those who committed offenses and knew to do better will be beaten with many stripes(Luke 12:48).  In other words, there will be varying degrees of punishment in hell.  Some people may only suffer for a few seconds where others may suffer for a few hours or days.  However, in the end all sin and sinners will be destroyed completely in the lake of fire.

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5 hours ago, Margo1945 said:

Qur'an being close to Torah in anything is not good enough .. close is not enough .. and, yes, some internet info re: Islam, Allah, Qur'an, ... may not be true but the Qur'an is true about what Islamists believe and it shows in itself that the Christian God - Father, Son, Holy Spirit - is not the same as the Islamist god .. the Christian God is the ONE and ONLY TRUE GOD and the Islamist god is a false god as are so many other man-made gods/goddesses .. 

We won't preach in Islam here but comments keep coming. According to a vision and what people think, Christianity isn't like fetishism although it seems like that to many people, Islam is like fetishism although it seems not to many people, Christianity attracts fetishism and Islam destroy it. God Islam believe in is the father like Jewish doing but in Islam they don't call him father, they're under the slavery spirit like those are under the law, but Christianity has the spirit of adoption or by Jesus people become sons of God the father.

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11 hours ago, Blood Bought 1953 said:

 

Sure we can! I don’t recommend it..........but It can and will happen......If one is a Believer in Jesus Christ they should “ expect to get to Heaven”.Here is something ELSE they can expect : Chastisement ....that’s God's Solution for stupid, weak Children who stray - NOT DAMNATION  ! If that were true, nobody would make it to Heaven.....If one of God’s Children would consistently decide to willfully sin, and spit on God’s Grace that saved him and God decided to strike that person dead on the spot, it would not be the first time...

Every Soul in Hell will be there for one reason— Unbelief. NOT bad behavior .We are all wretched sinners on our “ best” days.......thank God, if we Trust in Jesus Finished Work at the Cross, He will “ remember our sins no more.” Grace sometimes does not appear to be fair. Thank God for that.

 

  

 

 

 

Paul.     Shall we continue in sin ,     GOD FORBID .    Do you not know that whom you yield yourselves to , is whose servants you are .

BB.    can we please have that approach .     Plus ,    you do see the grave dangers of this inclusive mindset this other is teaching .    It goes flat against the one true gospel of having to have FAITH IN JESUS ALONE 

and having to forsake all other dead end religions and mindsets .   

BB,   inclusive love , IS NOT the love that comes from GOD .    This topic is deadly serious .   We have one amongst us .     Rebuke that one and when reminding about sin ,  Lets keep it like paul and the others did .

LET IT NOT be named ,     and if one does sin ,  CONFESS and forsake and HE Is faithful to forgive us , as JOHN said .    NEVER SAY with such confidence , SURE WE CAN .

Cause pauls answer was ,  NO YE SHANT ,  let it not once be named .     Keep their approach .     Be encouraged BB .    not discouraged .

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