Crusading

[creativemechanic]

41 minutes ago, charisenexcelsis said:

It seems to me that this topic could have been done without the picture. We may not know who that woman is, but someone did . And every time we repost it, we shame her again.

I covered the faces  just for that fact.  But thanks for the point. I had wanted to post on the topic a while ago but I don visuals stamp it down  even better. I had another example to use but this one had a picture to demonstrate it.

Edited March 7, 2020 by creativemechanic

[creativemechanic]

29 minutes ago, Jayne said:

@creativemechanic, I know before I ever click on your threads that I am going to see a cartoon or a photo of a woman dressed inappropriately.   I don't know it you have consciously noticed that, but lots of us here have.  Even if you are making a chastisement of a man - the woman will be dressed in a way she should not be.

Just something I have noticed.

Not necessarily. I'll admit some have. Like the past 2. But  I've put others for different topics up. Quite a few. Some which were totally ignored. 

[BeauJangles]

5 hours ago, creativemechanic said:

Assuming that it  even happened in a church, what gives anyone the right  to put the lady's  face online in a meme to shame her for doing something you don't approve of so people can see who she is and what she did.

 We really need to  leave God to handle situations as he sees fit  and but out

 

Yeah, you'd be right about this one. It's not a nice thing to do in the first instance. It's also racist. It's obvious what heritage the woman is and she's not the norm you would ordinarily see in a typical church, per se. Basically, the picture and comment lacks taste and diplomacy. I don't know why someone would post something like that either. 

[Justin Adams]

13 minutes ago, BeauJangles said:

I don't know why someone would post something like that either. 

Poor taste...

[missmuffet]

7 hours ago, creativemechanic said:

Something that's annoyed me recently  about how sonetimes we Christian (or church affiliated people) react to the actions of people  that we don't approvr of.

People become crusaders and go on quests to attack the person in various ways - shaming them , taking people and public bodies not to associate with them etc. Often times  the persons action may not be a sin, just something we disagree with 

Case in point 

I saw this picture online and it really punched a nerve  with me. I edited it to cover the faces  (whoever posted it had the woman's face clearly displayed w and add the  outer caption.)

 

Assuming that it  even happened in a church, what gives anyone the right  to put the lady's  face online in a meme to shame her for doing something you don't approve of so people can see who she is and what she did.

 We really need to  leave God to handle situations as he sees fit  and but out

 

A woman who is a born again Christian would not wear that dress to Church. We are not to judge hypocritically but if she is showing very bad Christian judgement and showing low morals and values I would be praying for her. 

[creativemechanic]

1 hour ago, missmuffet said:

A woman who is a born again Christian would not wear that dress to Church. We are not to judge hypocritically but if she is showing very bad Christian judgement and showing low morals and values I would be praying for her. 

Maybe i was wrong to post the picture but i think this thread actually  had a purpose in that  it identified some attitudes that we all may have  that may need adjusting (myself included)

 

The bible itself asks- who are you you judge another mans servant? We all have areas in pur livea to work on a what right had anyone  to declare a is or isn't a Christian  especially based on 1 picture? 

We all exist at different levels of maturity in different areas of the lady is saved maybe she's struggling with modesty

Maybe we all need to look inward at how we judge our brothers and sister in christ

[missmuffet]

Question: "What does it mean to dress modestly?"

Answer: In describing the mode of dress appropriate for women in church, the apostle Paul exhorts them to dress “modestly” with “decency and propriety” then goes on to contrast immodest dress with the good deeds which are appropriate for those who profess to be true worshipers of God (1 Timothy 2:9–10). While the Bible only specifically addresses the need for women to dress modestly, the same teaching would apply to men in principle. Both men and women should bring glory to God in their manner of dress.
Modesty in the way we dress is not just for church; it is to be the standard for all Christians at all times. The key to understanding what constitutes modesty in dress is to examine the attitudes and intents of the heart. Those whose hearts are inclined toward God will make every effort to dress modestly, decently, and appropriately. Those whose hearts are inclined toward self will dress in a manner designed to draw attention to themselves with little or no regard for the consequences to themselves or others.

A godly woman endeavors to do everything with a “God-ward” perspective. She knows that God wants His people to be concerned for His glory and the spiritual state of their brothers and sisters in Christ. If a woman professes to be a Christian yet she dresses in a way that will unduly draw attention to her body, she is a poor witness of the One who bought her soul by dying for her on the cross. She is forgetting that her body has been redeemed by Christ and is now the temple of the Holy Spirit (1 Corinthians 6:19–20). She is telling the world that she determines her own worth on a purely physical basis and that her attractiveness depends on how much of her body she reveals to them. Further, by intentionally dressing in an immodest fashion, displaying her body for men to lust after, she encourages her brothers in Christ to sin, something condemned by God (Matthew 5:27–29). Proverbs 7:10 mentions a woman “dressed like a prostitute and with crafty intent”—here, the woman’s heart condition is displayed by her manner of dress.

The Scripture says that we are to dress modestly, but what exactly does that mean in modern society? Does a woman have to be covered from head to toe? There are cults and religions in the world that demand this of women. But is that the biblical meaning of modesty? Again, we have to go back to the matter of the attitudes of the heart. If a woman’s heart is inclined toward godliness, she will wear clothing that is neither provocative nor revealing in public. Her clothing choices will not signal pride or ostentation and will not reflect negatively upon her personal testimony as a child of God. Everyone else in her circle may be dressing immodestly, but she resists the temptation to go along with the crowd. She avoids clothing designed to draw attention to her body and cause men to lust, for she is wise enough to know that type of attention only cheapens her. The idea of giving occasion for men to sin against God because of her dress is abhorrent to her because she seeks to love and honor God and wants others to do the same.

Modesty in dress reveals a modesty and godliness of the heart, humble attitudes that should be the desire of all women (and men) who live to please and honor God.

https://www.gotquestions.org/dress-modestly.html

 

Edited March 7, 2020 by missmuffet

[creativemechanic]

5 hours ago, DDisconnect said:

This "internet activism" of sorts has been a trend for a few years now, and it applies to more than just churchgoers. Someone is accused of being a racist, and so those on the internet go wild with it, emailing their employers and harassing their family. It's a bit of a 50/50, however. If the accused truly is guilty, then it brings attention to them on a fairly sized scale. If they aren't, then they just lost a job and this will follow them the rest of their days. A few examples of it going well would be Kenny Glenn (who uploaded a video of himself abusing his cat) or the many and ongoing movements against the Church of Scientology.

However, even then, a number of folks take it too far. You had people calling up and ordering pizzas for Kenny Glenn's address, you've got people who will call the accused person's number endlessly... Even in the event of a racist or whatever, it should be in desire of changing their minds, and not in destroying them for good. Not that people shouldn't be called out - I'm pretty sure I heard that Glenn's cats were taken away - but gathering together a digital pitchfork mob hellbent on ruining a person's life is likely not ideal.

As for the topic, I'm a bit of a mixed opinion. Women should dress modestly, but then people are at different levels of faith, as well as the fact that women's clothing is an absolute mess. Not that women lack modest options, but certain body types fall outside of the mass produced clothing they put on shelves. Say for example a very, uh... Topheavy woman. She could wear a baggy sweater, to be certain, but bras and shirts aren't normally made with sizeable gahungarabungas in mind. Then sizes change depending on brand and they load the local shelves with this revealing stuff... It's a bit of a complicated issue. Whatever the case, I agree with the sentiment of just looking away, or at least approaching them about it calmly, in love and concern.

Exactly

[BeauJangles]

9 hours ago, Justin Adams said:

Poor taste...

Once again, I'm afraid it is. 

[LadyKay]

9 hours ago, missmuffet said:

A woman who is a born again Christian would not wear that dress to Church.

Oh dear.