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1 hour ago, Tigger56 said:

I guess each has their own reality. Reminds me of the story where 3 blind men approached an elephant because they wanted to know what an elephant looked like but were unable to see. One grabbed its leg, one touched its massive side, one grabbed its trunk. After they walked away the first said the elephant was just like a tree, the other said no it is more like a house, the third said no you are all mistaken it is more like a snake.

My reality is walking in trust in the Lord each day. My life is in his hands, when I get in a car, whether I am in an accident or not, whether I die or not.. my life is in his hands and He can take it when He chooses either way I am in his hands. I don't tempt death by driving crazy, or by riding with some people that I know to be bad drivers etc.... I also do not believe I am tempting death by going about my life outside of my home during these crazy times. Those who stay inside, if they feel better and safer then may God protect and bless them where they are and may He protect and bless me where I am. 

Well Tiger56, can't argue with ignorance.   I can draw reference to many things in life that we abide by,that we have to trust in the professionals in their field to do the right things to keep us safe .  As believers, we live in both the spiritual and physical realm, each has its laws and protocol to abide by.  While I agree with you that as believers we do not fear death, we live in a communal world, where we have to abide by the rule of the land.  

The main point about our spiritual life is not the hardship or the trials that we go through, but that we keep our hearts in right standing with the  Lord.  That's what the Lord keep on the record books.  

So Tiger, use some common sense too and know that you have seniors in your community, which  this scourge seems to attack the most. It started with one person and no one really knows who would be next.  It's therefore prudent to do the things that may stop the spread.

I too have my reservations about something so small that we cannot see, but can cause havoc and the measures that have to be taken. I do not fear the outcome that is possible, but I also would respect the community and laws of the land.


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5 minutes ago, warrior12 said:

Well Tiger56, can't argue with ignorance.   I can draw reference to many things in life that we abide by,that we have to trust in the professionals in their field to do the right things to keep us safe .  As believers, we live in both the spiritual and physical realm, each has its laws and protocol to abide by.  While I agree with you that as believers we do not fear death, we live in a communal world, where we have to abide by the rule of the land.  

The main point about our spiritual life is not the hardship or the trials that we go through, but that we keep our hearts in right standing with the  Lord.  That's what the Lord keep on the record books.  

So Tiger, use some common sense too and know that you have seniors in your community, which  this scourge seems to attack the most. It started with one person and no one really knows who would be next.  It's therefore prudent to do the things that may stop the spread.

I too have my reservations about something so small that we cannot see, but can cause havoc and the measures that have to be taken. I do not fear the outcome that is possible, but I also would respect the community and laws of the land.

What you call "ignorance" I guess I call faith.  I haven't caused any sickness, nor will I. Seniors, those of poor health, definitely need to take precaution if they feel it is needed. By the way, I guess I am also considered to be a senior. I forget sometimes since I have a dad who is 85 (who is as me, going out and living his life as usual) and I have a mom who is 83, who is of poor health but also attended church and goes out as she can. I haven't broken any laws and I'm not breaking any by defending the liberty and freedom upon which this nation was built along with a believe in God that our forefathers professed. 


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On 4/13/2020 at 8:44 AM, Tigger56 said:

A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned — this is the sum of good government.” – Thomas Jefferson First Inaugural Address, 1801

 

Freedom in America was declared and fought for with a Declaration of Independence from a tyrannical government and it included these famous words, “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”  We are living in a time when those liberties fought for and so long protected are being removed from the people. Jobs are being lost, businesses are being destroyed, life savings are being depleted, religious freedoms to gather and to worship are being attacked, and the freedom to work, the freedom to assemble and the freedoms to pursue life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness are being removed all in the guise of the “greater good.” I too value the sanctity of human life, and feel we should do all that is in our power to prolong and to protect life, but those who seek to shame and attack some of us for being angry at the removal of liberty and freedom by telling us that we must protect life even if it means destroying more lives and our livelihood are the same people who support and promulgate the murder of millions of unborn children. Will Americans continue to sit quietly at home and watch our nation fall into ruin and the rights that so many have bled and died for be removed one by one, or will we be voices that remind the powers that be that the rights we share under God are not to be removed so that we can become a socialist nation that no longer resembles the vision of those who established this once great nation? What I see happening to our nation saddens me deeply, but it also angers me, and I pray for God’s mercy that our leaders will open their eyes and stop what they are doing so that freedom and liberty will once more be upon us.

 

 
 
 

It's almost like our founding fathers could see into the future with hope. No doubt they based many of their predictions and outlooks on history, and doomed to repeat it, nothing new under the sun.

The government you elect is the government you deserve ~ Thomas Jefferson  [I could have a field day with this Jefferson quote].

Franklin was walking out of Independence Hall after the Constitutional Convention in 1787, when someone shouted out, “Doctor, what have we got? A republic or a monarchy?”  To which Franklin supposedly responded, with a rejoinder at once witty and ominous: “A republic, if you can keep it.”

Government and the socialist liberal media wants you to think and constantly mouths we're a "democracy". We're not a democracy [mob rule and emotions at a given time], we're a Constitutional Republic governed by enacted law. Our only three legal papers are; the Constitution of the United States of America, the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights, period. 

Losing it bit by bit: Social Security will be a retirement fund set aside and not touched. The lottery proceeds will only be used to fund and support education, on and on. SCOTUS and Federal circuit courts legislating from the bench telling Congress what laws to pass. Case law making a mockery of our legal documents. Income tax: Income is not wages and wages were not originally intended to be taxed. Income is profit derived from business, investments, rent collection, stocks, bonds, interest earned, etc. 

Why do you need about three years to become a lawyer? I can read and understand our founding documents clearly. Why is it that hundreds of legal words used, are totally different in meaning than everyday common usage? Was Abraham Lincoln a member of the Bar Association?

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4 hours ago, Tigger56 said:

The virus is serious but the majority are surviving it.

The question remains. Are you one who lives? Or one who dies? Also the question is who are you passing this along too? Are they going to be one who lives or one who dies?  Also there are reports of  the possibility of long term damage to the lungs and heart from this virus.   


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@Tigger56 From reading your post it is clear that you do not have an understanding of this virus and how it works.  I guess you must think that you are smarter than all them science people and medical people.  Me continuing to reply to you in the hopes to educate you seems futile.   So what more is there for me to say? I hope you stay away from old people. But you are most likely going to do whatever you want to do anyway. :wacko:


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13 minutes ago, LadyKay said:

@Tigger56 From reading your post it is clear that you do not have an understanding of this virus and how it works.  I guess you must think that you are smarter than all them science people and medical people.  Me continuing to reply to you in the hopes to educate you seems futile.   So what more is there for me to say? I hope you stay away from old people. But you are most likely going to do whatever you want to do anyway. :wacko:

I am "old people"  ha, ha. But not ancient. "smarter than science people and medical people"  yes, smarter than some. I find some of the so called "experts" to be nothing but educated idiots with an agenda of darkness.  But LadyKay, at least you do understand me, I do go about doing as I want anyway. I'm just an old hardhead.  Love Tigger

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33 minutes ago, LadyKay said:

The question remains. Are you one who lives? Or one who dies? Also the question is who are you passing this along too? Are they going to be one who lives or one who dies?  Also there are reports of  the possibility of long term damage to the lungs and heart from this virus.   

At this time I am one who lives within the will of the Lord. My life is in his hands. I am not sick and thus I will not pass it on to anyone. If this is in regards to going to church..... got to worship the Lord otherwise there will definitely be long term damage to my heart!

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45 minutes ago, Tigger56 said:

I am not sick and thus I will not pass it on to anyone. 

hi Tigger

If I may ask a question.. how do you know that you are not already infected .. since some /many of those who are infected possibly show little or no symptoms?  Or sometimes are possibly infectious (ie can pass it on to others) even days *before* they feel sick?

I hope it is ok for me to ask brother.  Because I am puzzled by your statements.

Thanks.

 

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1 hour ago, Tigger56 said:

At this time I am one who lives within the will of the Lord. My life is in his hands. I am not sick and thus I will not pass it on to anyone. If this is in regards to going to church..... got to worship the Lord otherwise there will definitely be long term damage to my heart!

Blessings Tig & more Blessings,enough for your church,state,city & the rest of us.....

If you are lead to carry on as you do & have tried the spirits then who am I to question that?But here's the thing Brother,you really shouldn't look down your nose at your Brothers& Sisters who are Convicted to stay home,now can you?I've been listening to you mock others,yes MOCK others while you do what? Try to convince them to do as you have been lead to do?That isn't fair....God Doesn't work that Way,He Calls Who He Calls to Carry out the Plans He Has for THEM and for His Purpose

   I sincerely hope & can honestly Believe that you & your little church group just might be used as Living testimonies of Gods Power ,Grace & Faithfulness but I would NEVER advise anyone to go against the Law of the land or against what they are lead to do themselves    I'm really sick right now Brother,people are telling me to rush to the ER,I'm standing on Gods Word yet I wouldn't suggest that  anyone else in my condition to do that        With love-in Christ<kwik

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