If you think its not safe to sleep in alligator's cage dont assume you are such holy that the virus won't affect you.

[simplejeff]

On 5/1/2020 at 12:44 AM, R. Hartono said:

This Corona virus is just as deadly as hungry alligators, the same creation of God.

So what ?

Daniel was put in a den with hungry lions.  

Daniel said "I will not deny my faith , I will not deny Yahweh",  EVEN IF He Lets Me Die.

 

The lions were real.  Hungry alligators may be real.   So what ?  Who is greater ?

 

Besides all the false info broadcast about viruses (all viruses).  Whoever seeks for what worked in the past,  will be delighted to see what still works.

[simplejeff]

EVERY DAY of a believers life:

"Sheep among Wolves
15Truly I tell you, it will be more bearable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town. 16Look, I am sending you out like sheep among wolves; therefore be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves. 17

But beware of men; for they will hand you over to their councils and flog you in their synagogues.…"

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On 5/1/2020 at 12:44 AM, R. Hartono said:

if we cannot heal people like peter did, better not wandering around.

 

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Matthew 10:16

KJ21

“Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves. Be ye therefore wise as serpents and harmless as doves.

 

ASV

Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.

 

 

 

AMP

“Listen carefully: I am sending you out like sheep among wolves; so be wise as serpents, and innocent as doves [have no self-serving agenda].

 

PHILLIPS

“Here I am sending you out like sheep with wolves all round you; so be as wise as serpents and yet as harmless as doves. But be on your guard against men. For they will take you to the court and flog you in their synagogues. You will be brought into the presence of governors and kings because of me—to give your witness to them and to the heathen.

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“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.”

 

 

 

 

Edited May 4, 2020 by simplejeff

[dhchristian]

On 5/1/2020 at 1:44 AM, R. Hartono said:

This Corona virus is just as deadly as hungry alligators

Who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions, Quenched the violence of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, out of weakness were made strong, waxed valiant in fight, turned to flight the armies of the aliens. (Hebrews 11;33-34)

Has anyone noticed, the number of deaths from the flu this year is way down, while the Covid deaths are peaking? Meaning? meaning that people who are dying from the flu as they do every year are being labeled as Covid victims to inflate the numbers and to stir the fear and panic.

A frightened public is one that will give away their freedoms in exchange for security which what the Antichrist will bring, "peace and security". 

Life is full of risks, the moment we fear taking risks is the moment we as a species die out. You get in a car and drive on the streets congested with hundreds of other drivers, that is a risk we all take, More people are hospitalized, severely injured or die in car accidents each year than of Covid 19. 

Tyranny is the greatest killer of Humanity in its history, and they know how to use fear to make you give up your freedom. You can fight off an alligator by yourself, But you cannot fight off a tyrant who holds the arsenal of Power in their fingertips. The Only way to stop a tyrant is to stand up with others in mass resistance which is a great risk to your life. Let us not cower in fear now, that we must in the future risk it all to stand up to a tyrant. 

[JustPassingThru]

6 hours ago, Wayne222 said:

I cannot believe the bad advice and false faith statements being put out. When you assume God will protect you and put yourself in danger you are trusting God. And even worse you endanger other people and have a lack of love. There was a pastor in I think south Carolina who said he was not afraid of getting the coronavirus because he walk in the spirit. Two weeks later he died in the hospital from covid -19.

Brother, this is just an observation, ...no harm meant...

You start with bad advice and false faith statements and then you post what you think, ...are you 100% sure about the pastor and his congregation, ...were you there, are you certified to confirm his death, ...if he died, was it actually from the virus, ...can you, are you, ...100% certain, ...or are you just repeating what someone has told you?

Brother it is this kind of speculation that is fueling this "panic" from the media hype...

May I suggest some wisdom from Proverbs, ...without wood the fire will go out!

Lord bless

[Guest]

6 hours ago, Melinda12 said:

You are very unwise. It is essential to do what our government advises. This is a deadly infection for all ages of adults. If we emerge from lock down too quickly without great caution, many many more will die. 

So pray and obey those who are in charge. 

Bahh! Luckily, I live in Florida where our Governor has a brain.

[simplejeff]

27 minutes ago, JustPassingThru said:

Brother, this is just an observation, ...no harm meant...

You start with bad advice and false faith statements and then you post what you think, ...are you 100% sure about the pastor and his congregation, ...were you there, are you certified to confirm his death, ...if he died, was it actually from the virus, ...can you, are you, ...100% certain, ...or are you just repeating what someone has told you?

Brother it is this kind of speculation that is fueling this "panic" from the media hype...

May I suggest some wisdom from Proverbs, ...without wood the fire will go out!

Lord bless

Remember things posted on the open internet,  are usually false.   Growing more daily.   Same as the news/ media/ has always been longer than we have been alive....  such is the nature of the fallen society/ world.

[Guest]

On 5/3/2020 at 1:50 AM, R. Hartono said:

Yes i see it for myself, grave diggers in this city work day and night to bury corona victims, more than 2300 hundred people with corona symptoms have died before confirmed positive and before receiving hospital treatment because hospitals are full and now dozens thousands others isolated at home, all hospitals are just full.

https://www.worthychristianforums.com/topic/251744-gravediggers-and-ambulance-driver-race-against-time/

 

Lets see: 2300:6000000=0.000383 fatality rate. And hospitals in NYC are not full. There are 156 hospitals in the City. Reports are that only 5 or six of them are at capacity. You are certainly getting your "news" from the MSM, which wouldn't tell you the truth if it bit them in the ......

[simplejeff]

1 minute ago, Godismyloveforever said:

And the point?

Are the wolves the ones who say real Christians can't get Covid19 so do anything you want you will be ok?  

I was viciously attacked in the chat room here by someone who said real Christians can't get Covid19 when I told her that is not true anymore can get it.

I consider her to be a wolf.

 

...  a wolf or worse....   or at least very deceived in who they are trusting....

The wolves are the ones who God says are wolves.  Includes those who listen to demons instead of Jesus, and are opposed to Jesus.   Includes those cursed by Jesus for bringing-carrying a false gospel. 

Finding 'real Christians' on the internet, or in person, is a challenge,  a difficult one, and always test, test, test - testing is required not of everyone - but only of those God directs (most are ignored),   before accepting any message,  any poster,  any member,  any pastr, pirest, or teacher, or any teaching -  over 90% are false everywhere,  no exceptions seen so far .... by testing - and by their own words!  (when a false evangelist is exposed, as false,  a lot of members jump up and down to 'protect' them, and to 'protest' them being exposed....  thus the 'fruit'(results) of the wolves teachings is very productive,  as Jesus said it would be - multitudes with tickled ears,  loving tickled ears,  attracted to tickled ears,  prmotoing tickled ears....   it is a very dangerous world / society we all live in....

[Guest]

3 hours ago, BibleStudent100 said:

Here is what the premiere experts in all things virology and epidemiology say about this:

"Information about COVID-19 in children is somewhat limited, but current data suggest children with COVID-19 may have only mild symptoms. However, they can still pass this virus onto others who may be at higher risk, including older adults and people who have serious underlying medical conditions."

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/faq.html#COVID-19-and-Children

 

Additionally, why can't church continue through online iterations?  This is what my church does.  We all stay home and and we can still fellowship live through zoom or gotomeeting, or the many other options available.  Again, I am reminded of the scripture found in Proverbs 22:3:  "The prudent person sees trouble ahead and hides, but the naive continue on and suffer the consequences."

 

I said that the elderly and older adults were more susceptible. Guess I should have been more clear. Children are not dying from the virus (maybe a few). And, the issue is not simply wanting to go to church. The issue is getting back to normal. And not the "new normal." But the normal where all businesses are open and serving customers. Where parks, beaches, and recreational areas are open. This prolonged living in fear of a virus, which is very contagious but only as deadly as the yearly flu, is irrational. You can throw out all the "scientific" data that you want, but that data has been mostly wrong. It has now become an opportunity for totalitarian governments (Democrat controlled) to infringe upon our First Amendment rights; freedom of speech, the right to assemble and petition the government.

I am a senior citizen with a serious underlying medical condition, one of the most vulnerable. So, I choose to self isolate as much as possible. But people who are healthy and able bodied (most of the Nation) should not be forced to do the same. If someone is fearful of the virus, then by all means stay away. Wear a mask and gloves. Stay at least 6 feet away from the people standing around you. That is the way to not be exposed to the virus. But, that is your choice. The vast majority of the people are not afraid and want to get back to normal.

[LadyKay]

12 hours ago, JustPassingThru said:

Some people here for reasons  I can not understand can not or refuse to accept facts.  It is  because of  people like them that we have to have lock down laws put into place. Because clearly they do not have the understanding that they need to stay home for their own safety as well as the safety of other. I guess they must think they are smarter then all the medical experts, and Scientist who have made it their lives work to study viruses. 

I've highlighted what you have said, ...directed "indirectly" at me, ...according to the recognized definition of what "Social Shaming" is.

I did not realize that your name was "Some people".  Had I know that that was your name I would have worded it differently. Because I was not talking about you personally. But commenting on the many other posting on threads on the same topic.  I am not a person that would society shame anyone.