I'd like to know if Daniel 9:24-27 proves there will be a third temple

[Uriah]

18 hours ago, R. Hartono said:

The rebuilding of 3rd temple is written in Revelation :

Rev 11:11 I was given a reed like a measuring rod and was told, “Go and measure the temple of God and the altar, with its worshipers. ² But exclude the outer court; do not measure it, because it has been given to the Gentiles.

The outer court is where the dome of the rock stood.

Hi Hortono,

What ewe see in Rev. 11 is John seeing a vision of a temple that is different tho what he had known, but nowhere does it indicate that it is in Jerusalem in our time. In fact the similarity so strikingly  copies what is seen in Ezekiel regarding the measurements being done with a "reed" that i believe it is a vision of the same temple Ezekiel saw. That Temple will be built early in the Millennium. 

[R. Hartono]

26 minutes ago, Uriah said:

Hi Hortono,

What ewe see in Rev. 11 is John seeing a vision of a temple that is different tho what he had known, but nowhere does it indicate that it is in Jerusalem in our time. In fact the similarity so strikingly  copies what is seen in Ezekiel regarding the measurements being done with a "reed" that i believe it is a vision of the same temple Ezekiel saw. That Temple will be built early in the Millennium. 

So why its outer court is given to gentiles n they throdden down the city 1260 days.

[Uriah]

11 hours ago, R. Hartono said:

So why its outer court is given to gentiles n they throdden down the city 1260 days.

That verse is divided into parts. The first dealing with the vision of the temple. The second about the witnesses. The second portion starts with, "and" which has much broader usage. The KJV translators seem to have gone with the most common treatment. Other translations treat that portion as an entire complete sentence, which I think it is and therefore could have been a separate "verse" all by itself. Hence the departure from the temple vision and on to the next vision about the witnesses. So, your query operates on the assumption of one vision when it is not. The entire book of Revelation is laced with examples like this-a long reel of various visions. Some very short, others very much the opposite.

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[R. Hartono]

13 hours ago, Uriah said:

That verse is divided into parts. The first dealing with the vision of the temple. The second about the witnesses.

It clearly shows the 3rd temple built side by side with the mosque n it cannot b the Millennium temple as Jerusalem is throdden by gentiles for 3,5 years.

Your story that this is about millenium temple is totally err. No way the book of Revelation ever refer to Millennium temple in the great Tribulation.

 

 

 

Edited June 12, 2020 by R. Hartono

[Uriah]

11 hours ago, R. Hartono said:

It clearly shows the 3rd temple built side by side with the mosque n it cannot b the Millennium temple as Jerusalem is throdden by gentiles for 3,5 years.

Your story that this is about millenium temple is totally err. No way the book of Revelation ever refer to Millennium temple in the great Tribulation

My friend, there is no mosque in this passage. It has to be in your imagination. Also, I doubt that God will share His holy temple mount with a pagan structure. Nor do I believe that He approves of a temple for the anti-Christ. Or that the Jewish people will allow anyone but a Jewish high priest enter the HOLY PLACE. And if the millennial temple will will be built shortly after this supposed temple, God will NOT have two temples! Neither will He go about to destroy His own temple. The theory you currently embrace is fraught with insurmountable difficulties.

But in the passage in focus, there IS an undeniable link to what Ezekiel wrote about (measuring a temple with a reed) a very large temple. You will NOT be able to break this chain connecting the two passages. 

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[R. Hartono]

5 minutes ago, Uriah said:

My friend, there is no mosque in this passage. It has to be in your imagination. Also, I doubt that God will share His holy temple mount

You fail to see that the building of Dome of the rock has fulfilled what John saw at the outer court n you fail to see that God did not command the 3rd temple to b rebuilt.

[Uriah]

3 minutes ago, R. Hartono said:

You fail to see that the building of Dome of the rock has fulfilled what John saw at the outer court n you fail to see that God did not command the 3rd temple to b rebuilt.

Please, simply show it in that passage. I don't see a mosque anywhere on the page.

[Alive]

I am pretty sure that two temples have been destroyed in real space and time in this earthly realm...I see no reason to not take a third as being a real earthly structure.

Recall that God moved on from a architectural dwelling to human hearts for the Church Age.

This leaves prophecy fulfillment regarding physical Israel and the Davidic Covenant.

Will Jesus land on a real mountain and will there be a real earthquake?

[Diaste]

22 hours ago, Uriah said:

Also, I doubt that God will share His holy temple mount with a pagan structure.

But it isn't His Temple Mount. We are the temple of God. The dwelling place of God is of the Spirit and in the Spirit. Any stone Temple now built by Jews would also be a pagan structure unapproved by the Most High. 

22 hours ago, Uriah said:

Nor do I believe that He approves of a temple for the anti-Christ.

That may be, but that doesn't preclude the building of a third Temple. I just watched a documentary where the owners of a race horse spent millions on the horse after it broke it's leg. In the end the animal had to be euthanized anyway. I'm sure God didn't approve of that. Heck, I didn't approve! There a lot of things of which God does not approve but that doesn't stop them from happening.

22 hours ago, Uriah said:

Or that the Jewish people will allow anyone but a Jewish high priest enter the HOLY PLACE.

That's why it's an 'abomination that appalls' when someone other than the High Priest enters the holy place. It's why Jesus said, "...standing where it should not..."

22 hours ago, Uriah said:

And if the millennial temple will will be built shortly after this supposed temple, God will NOT have two temples!

It's my understanding that when Jesus returns there will an earthquake so powerful the mountains fall, islands disappear, all the cities fall and the Mount of Olives splits in two. A third Temple will not be standing. And there is this, "But I saw no temple in the city, because the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple." - Rev 21:22 

I don't think there is a Temple in the millennium.

22 hours ago, Uriah said:

Neither will He go about to destroy His own temple.

Since it's apparent there is no need for a stone Temple as a dwelling place for God, as it was in the past, as God now dwells in the spirit of the believer, any stone Temple ostensibly built to the Most High is nothing but a pagan symbol built for a false god. At this point in history Jesus has come and revealed the truth, not a new truth, but the revealed truth all the OT prophets knew; it's by the Spirit and always has been. The Temple is a need for national Israel, for their religious identity, national pride, and the manifestation of their religious ideology and in no way serves to honor the Most High.

[R. Hartono]

On 6/12/2020 at 7:35 PM, Uriah said:

Please, simply show it in that passage. I don't see a mosque anywhere on the page.

The outer court of that sacred mount is given to gentiles, do u think gentiles will build a restaurant or a gymn ? At the place nations battle nations to seize the holy city of three religions ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited June 13, 2020 by R. Hartono