George Floyd

[Gideon]

1 hour ago, Melinda12 said:

Yes a great wrong has been committed. No question. 

However- he was a giant. 6ft 6 inch tall. Criminal history. 46 years old so at the very peak of strength. 

Worth thinking about anyone faced with a man of that size and weight with seconds to decide action. Police face severe injury and death anytime. 

Nobody should die as he did of course. But context is an essential element. Yes there is a lot of injustice and such wrongs but - this man had once held a gun to a pregnant woman, done time in prison. 

Let's have all aspects out in the light of examination. Not paint a onesided picture. That too is dangerous. 

 

 

You do realize of course he had already been handcuffed and placed in the back of the police vehicle. He was taken out of that security and suffocated to death. When a man is on his face, handcuffs behind his back,  there is simply no excuse. None. To try to spin another narrative is simply wrong. 

blessings, 

Gids

Edited June 5, 2020 by Gideon

[LadyKay]

1 minute ago, Gideon said:

Tou do realize of course he had already been handcuffed and placed in the back of the police vehicle. He was taken out of that security and suffocated to death.

Yes I find this very very odd. If he was already in the police car. Why would they have pulled him out of it and then lay him on the ground and knee him to the neck until he stops breathing? Something is not right here. 

[Gideon]

Just now, LadyKay said:

Yes I find this very very odd. If he was already in the police car. Why would they have pulled him out of it and then lay him on the ground and knee him to the neck until he stops breathing? Something is not right here. 

I think something occurred in the vehicle. I think there is far more to this that has not come out. The fact George and the police officer knew one another is a part of this that little light has been shed on.... yet. I hope the full truth comes out. I also hope a guilty verdict is rendered, for if it is not, there will be ten or twenty times the number who will be protesting, and I suspect the military will be used. A constitutional crisis will ensue. 

blessings, 

Gids

[Guest]

That of course is blatantly wrong. Unnecessary. Using excessive unreasonable force. 

The whole picture is required. Every aspect. 

Edited June 5, 2020 by Melinda12

[Guest]

10 minutes ago, Gideon said:

You do realize of course he had already been handcuffed and placed in the back of the police vehicle. He was taken out of that security and suffocated to death. When a man is on his face, handcuffs behind his back,  there is simply no excuse. None. To try to spin another narrative is simply wrong. 

blessings, 

Gids

I didn't know that. All facts need light shone on them. 

 

[OneLight]

1 hour ago, Jayne said:

Yes, let's do look at the whole picture.

And yes, he did those things you said.  He was a drug addict looking for money and drugs.

There's also testimonial and pictorial evidence that George Floyd was a Christian.  Christians can fall into all kinds of addictions - food, porn, drug, and more.

He was born and raised in a terrible section of Houston and welcomed mission-minded people who worked with young people - telling them that the kids in his neighborhood need the Bible and need God.

As for his being in perfect health - he was not.  He had the corona virus - albeit, he was asymptomatic. He was under the influence of fentanyl and methamphetamines.  He also had heart disease.

So -in total - he had some criminal issues, drug addictions, and was interested in the things of God and was concerned about the young people coming up behind him.

I watched all the videos I could find from all angles.  He was handcuffed before he got out of the car, sat down against a wall, pulled back up, and taken a few blocks to another police vehicle.  What was not seen was him not wanting to get into the police car and dropping to his knees.  That's what the police said - he dropped to the ground.

At no time were the police in any danger.

What was shown was him begging for air and the police officer on his neck saying, "You should have gotten in the car right."  When the ambulance got there, his body was lifeless.  And the officer was still on his neck.  I watched his limp and lifeless body being rolled onto the stretcher beside him.  He was pronounced dead a few minutes later at the hospital.

I don't see him as a martyr the way some do, but I cannot justify this in any way at all.  Nothing he ever did or was warranted what happened.

I find this post has the most information so far.  According to the police reports, it seems that he was never in a police car from the videos Jayne viewed.  I highlighted the information.

I am sure more information will come out in the trials.

[leah777]

1 hour ago, Melinda12 said:

That of course is blatantly wrong. Unnecessary. Using excessive unreasonable force. 

The whole picture is required. Every aspect. 

What aspects are you looking for?

 

[leah777]

It is reported here in my country that the police officer knealt on his neck for 8-9 minutes.

Think about that. Even though he was unconscious, the police officer continued to kneel on his neck until he was dead.

 

[ReneeIW]

3 hours ago, Melinda12 said:

Yes a great wrong has been committed. No question. 

However- he was a giant. 6ft 6 inch tall. Criminal history. 46 years old so at the very peak of strength. 

Worth thinking about anyone faced with a man of that size and weight with seconds to decide action. Police face severe injury and death anytime. 

Nobody should die as he did of course. But context is an essential element. Yes there is a lot of injustice and such wrongs but - this man had once held a gun to a pregnant woman, done time in prison. 

Let's have all aspects out in the light of examination. Not paint a onesided picture. That too is dangerous. 

 

 

I’m waiting for the trial. Police are affected by fear and adrenaline. You don’t just stop as soon as a person is subdued, you stop when you feel safe. Only a person in that situation can make that call. If he was a drug addict they have to take extra precaution with him. What is scary are the riots that will occur if he is found not guilty after the facts are looked at. I know there is racism and hatred, but I also know things are not always as they seem.

[ReneeIW]

2 hours ago, Jayne said:

There's also testimonial and pictorial evidence that George Floyd was a Christian.  Christians can fall into all kinds of addictions - food, porn, drug, and more.

Thanks for posting this. So happy he was a Christian. I hope the officer Is in Christ as well.