Husband of one wife

[vic66]

Apostles Paul teaching that pastors, bishop, elders in the ministry  and deacon can only have one wife in their whole life time. No second marriage after the death of there first wife.

Some believe he was writing against unfaithfulliness and loyalty to there wife. Yet all christians should be faithful, loyal to their wife's.

I believe the best way to understand this is to study the apostle paul in person (1) and his teachings on marriage.(2)

Let not a widow be taken into the number under three score years old having been the wife of the one man.

Note Paul teaches widows can't be taken into the ministry and be supported by the church if she is under sixty years old or have had more than one husband in a live time. He commanded that the younger widows should marry bear children and not to give a occasion to the devil.

1cor7,1tim5 and 2cor11

1Cor7 show Paul perverence for singleness using his life as a teaching tool to help church government and set an example for those who would follow in church ministry.

You best read the whole chapter 1cor 7 and 2cor 11

Though Paul did not forbids pastors or elders for getting married like the Catholic church there was a limit set for elders,bishops, pastors, Shepards of the flock of God.

1cor7:29-38

Paul and the spirit of God wanted ministers to attend to the work of the Gospel with out a second family to care for, and the distractions which it inevitably would bring. Jesus,the gospel, the saints and the kingdom of heaven. Deny even their very self

If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sister, yea , and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple. Luke14:26 kjv

 

 

Edited June 20, 2020 by vic66

[LadyKay]

35 minutes ago, vic66 said:

Apostles Paul teaching that pastors, bishop, elders in the ministry  and deacon can only have one wife in their whole life time. No second marriage after the death of there first wife.

Some believe he was writing against unfaithfullyness and loyalty to there wife. Yet all christian should be faithfully, loyal to their wife's.

I believe the best way to understand this is to study the apostle paul in person (1) and his teaching on marriage.(2)

Let not a widow be taken into the number under three score years old having been the wife of the one man.

Note Paul teaches widows can't be taken into the ministry and besupported by the church if she is under sixty years old or have had more than one husband in a live time. He commande thatmthe younger widows should married bear children and not to give a occasion to the devil.

1cor7,1tim5 and 2cor11

1Cor7 show Paul perverence for singleness using his life as a teaching tool to help church government and set an example for those who would follow in church ministry.

Your best read the whole chapter 1cor 7 and 2cor 11

Though Paul did not forbids pastor or elders for getting married like the Catholic church there was a limit set for elders,bishops, pastors, Shepard of the flock of God.

1cor7:29-38

Paul and the spirit of God wanted ministers to attend to the work of the Gospel with out a second family to care for and the distractions which is inevitable.

 

Much of what Paul said was to address the issues of the young church at the time. Some of what he said does not apply to our lives in this day and age.  If Paul was addresses our issue at this time, he would have instructions base on our issues and needs. 

[vic66]

1 hour ago, LadyKay said:

Much of what Paul said was to address the issues of the young church at the time. Some of what he said does not apply to our lives in this day and age.  If Paul was addresses our issue at this time, he would have instructions base on our issues and needs. 

God would have needed to write billions upon billions of pages to speak to each generation individually

Paul words were inspired by the Spirit of God which list the qualification for people  who want to enter into the ministry.They are just as relevant today as when he first wrote them. The commands of Christ

 

Edited June 20, 2020 by vic66

[LadyKay]

35 minutes ago, vic66 said:

Paul words were inspired by the Spirit of God which list the qualification for people  who want to enter into the ministry.They are just as relevant today as when he first wrote them. The commands of Christ

I'm not so sure about all of that. Paul wrote letters to the churches at the time with instructions just for their issues. I do not think that Paul ever thought that his personal letters to the church would be included in what is now the Bible. Though it is possible that the Spirit guiding him in what to say in the letters. As the Spirit guides all of us who seek guidance on everyday matters. After much study I conclude that the Paul's instruction guided by the Spirit, were personally ment for the people he wrote them for and what issues they were having.  I do not wish to argue this. But only put in my thoughts on the matter. Would you really turn out a widow asking the church for help just because she has not reached the age of 60 yet, and had been married twice. Which must mean she outlived both husbands if she is now a widow. Would you really turn her out?  So there must have been something going on in the church Paul was addressing at the time he wrote this in order for him to give such instructions. Perhaps older children were not taking care of their widow parent as they should and are able to do. So maybe this was the reasons behind Paul's instructions for this matter. Which may not apply to us today.  Well it is something to think about. Good day to you. 

(I hope I spelled everything write I wrote this kind of fast)

Edited June 20, 2020 by LadyKay

[vic66]

33 minutes ago, LadyKay said:

I'm not so sure about all of that. Paul wrote letters to the churches at the time with instructions just for their issues. I do not think that Paul ever thought that his personal letters to the church would be included in what is now the Bible. Though it is possible that the Spirit guiding him in what to say in the letters. As the Spirit guides all of us who seek guidance on everyday matters. After much study I conclude that the Paul's instruction guided by the Spirit, were personally ment for the people he wrote them for and what issues they were having.  I do not wish to argue this. But only put in my thoughts on the matter. Would you really turn out a widow asking the church for help just because she has not reached the age of 60 yet, and had been married twice. Which must mean she outlived both husbands if she is now a widow. Would you really turn her out?  So there must have been something going on in the church Paul was addressing at the time he wrote this in order for him to give such instructions. Perhaps older children were not taking care of their widow parent as they should and are able to do. So maybe this was the reasons behind Paul's instructions for this matter. Which may not apply to us today.  Well it is something to think about. Good day to you. 

(I hope I spelled everything write I wrote this kind of fast)

2peter3:15-16

And count the of the patience of the the Lord as salvation, just as the beloved bother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, as he does in all his letters when,he speaks in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction as they do the other scriptures.

All scripture is given by the inspiration of God including Paul writings and are profitable for doctrine reprove and correction inrighteousness.

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[LadyKay]

2 minutes ago, vic66 said:

2peter3:15-16

And count the of the the Lord as salvation just as the beloved bother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, as hevdies in all his letters when,he speaks in them that are hard to understand, which thevirnorant and unstsble twist to their own destruction as they do the other scriptures

All scripture is given by the inspiration of God including Paul writings and are profitable for doctrine reprove and correction inrighteousness.

But would you really turn out a widow? 

[missmuffet]

3 hours ago, vic66 said:

Apostles Paul teaching that pastors, bishop, elders in the ministry  and deacon can only have one wife in their whole life time. No second marriage after the death of there first wife.

Some believe he was writing against unfaithfulliness and loyalty to there wife. Yet all christians should be faithful, loyal to their wife's.

I believe the best way to understand this is to study the apostle paul in person (1) and his teachings on marriage.(2)

Let not a widow be taken into the number under three score years old having been the wife of the one man.

Note Paul teaches widows can't be taken into the ministry and be supported by the church if she is under sixty years old or have had more than one husband in a live time. He commanded that the younger widows should marry bear children and not to give a occasion to the devil.

1cor7,1tim5 and 2cor11

1Cor7 show Paul perverence for singleness using his life as a teaching tool to help church government and set an example for those who would follow in church ministry.

You best read the whole chapter 1cor 7 and 2cor 11

Though Paul did not forbids pastors or elders for getting married like the Catholic church there was a limit set for elders,bishops, pastors, Shepards of the flock of God.

1cor7:29-38

Paul and the spirit of God wanted ministers to attend to the work of the Gospel with out a second family to care for, and the distractions which it inevitably would bring. Jesus,the gospel, the saints and the kingdow of heaven. Deny even their very selve.

If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sister, yea , and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple. Luke14:26 kjv

 

 

 God knows there are going to be complications in any marriage.The Bible tells us that a person can have a second marriage but it depends on the circumstances. Infidelity is a biblical reason for divorce if a spouse choosed to go that path. If a Christian dies they are free to marry another person. God does not want abuse in any marriage. If a born again couple marry and give their marriage 100% to God most disagreements can be worked out through prayer. 

[BeauJangles]

3 hours ago, vic66 said:

Apostles Paul teaching that pastors, bishop, elders in the ministry  and deacon can only have one wife in their whole life time. No second marriage after the death of there first wife.

The Apostle Paul NEVER implied this. I have no idea where you have read this in the bible. 

[ReneeIW]

6 hours ago, vic66 said:

Some believe he was writing against unfaithfulliness and loyalty to there wife. Yet all christians should be faithful, loyal to their wife's.

Yes, all Christians should be, but they are not. So what Paul is saying is that while certain mistakes may not disqualify you from being a Christian welcomed at church, it does disqualify you from being in a leadership position at the church.

[TheBlade]

Gonna have to disagree with "Some of what he said does not apply to our lives in this day and age."

If it was just Paul or Peter or James.. I would agree. Its the holy spirit. We can say the same about Jesus when He walked the earth. There were no Christians.. no Church. He was talking to Israel. Yet when you read it.. it comes alive. He shows you who to apply it to now.