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On 6/23/2020 at 6:30 PM, other one said:

its a bit different if you work or own a business.   God provided for Noah and his family.  is he going to do so for all workers and business owners?  how many Noah's are there today?

Also, God was the one who locked Noah down, not some scientifically illiterate buffoon governor unconstitutionally ordering a lockdown on the advice of wannabe-technocrat and failed-IT-system designer. And when Noah came out of "lockdown", God had sorted out all the Communists who otherwise might have beat his family, burnt down his vineyard, or tried to force him to take the mark of the Beast.

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4 hours ago, R. Hartono said:

Noah cud make a window in such placement that water cud not enter n also allow light.

that is true but we are not told that he did.......   he also could have just put them into hibernation and slept through the whole thing


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7 hours ago, Josheb said:

I typically find these kinds of ops curious. 

here we have a Christians writing to Christians about an event that will supposedly be preceded by the removal of the Christian from the onerous event, the tribulation. Yes, the "Great Tribulation" will be worse than having to shelter at home in a COVID-19 "quarantine" but it won't be worse for us.

We won't be here.

So this op should be posted to those to whom it does apply. Yes, there is will likely receive denial or mockery or ridicule but that's the place to post it. Not here. Because here it is completely wrong: the tribulation will not be worse for us than sheltering at home during and epidemic. I'll get spend eternity in worship of the One who saved me from my sin :clap:. Even if I believe things will happen much, much different than the pre-trib Dispensational Premillennial rapturist s/he and I will standing shoulder to shoulder in praise of God through Christ our Savior. 

And this kind of crooked thinking is common among tribulationists. It can be observed in any number of Christian discussion forums. 

Didnt say we must go thru the great trib.


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On 6/23/2020 at 6:18 AM, R. Hartono said:

How long have you been locked down with all the luxuries ? And still complain ?

It will look like a picnic in the coming Great Tribulation !

Hi Noah was not locked down isolated from family nor from animals.  Noah had a command from God all we have is a theory from Dr. Faucie that  is killing world commerce at this time. we will soon be out of most all things needed for  civilized living. We will become foragers and gatherers living  in small tribes, suffering gretly from all manner of disease.

The herd theory is the better route to go, where some of us will live and some will die, but we will not bring down the entire world population to small tribal wanderings in a dark age.

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18 hours ago, other one said:

that is true but we are not told that he did.......   he also could have just put them into hibernation and slept through the whole thing

Hibernation and inactivity are my thoughts also. Another consideration is; animals on the ark were different than we see today. No doubt they lived much longer lives, as did humans. It wasn't until directly after the flood animals [and people] were allowed to eat flesh; and animals were given fear and dread of man. Even today many animals sense the approach in a change in their environment and react and adapt to those changes to survive [hunker down]. Animals were created for our enjoyment and use [the Glory of God], and some may have been employed for use relieving the manual burden in the ark? Mangers, troughs and drinking stations may have been mechanically semi-automated. Not to mention the Lord's providence. 

There are many logical reasons to address the OP's questions and efficiency is one of them to greatly reduce man-hours. Example: Animals on the ark were all vegetarian and many or most probably grazed on the same things? Therefore, if and when they became hungry, why couldn't they walk a short distance to a central food station? 

What about water was asked? Reading the description of the ark, it had a large ventilation all around the top of it, most likely recessed [like eves] to prevent rain from entering. A bucket and rope would be a simple and crude method. Well, the water would be to saline for consumption. I doubt it, the oceans water get more saline by the year; tracing it back, the globes water may have been all fresh and no oceans prior to the deluge. 

Animal waste: Less food and activity, less waste. Efficiency and knowledge: I suspect through the degradation of DNA and the laws of physics, peoples intelligence has become dumbed- down through the centuries. Evidence: Look at the many millennia old global mega structures still in existence and the precision fit that can't even be duplicated today, that thousands of years old mechanical computer that was found encrusted as just two quick examples.  

Offensive odors and smells? Ask a commercial hog, chicken or cattle farmer what they smell in their barns and coops? 

Dennis: Mr. Farmer; how can you stand the smell in here?

Mr. Farmer: Listen there little grasshopper, the only smell I smell is MONEY :whistling:

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On 6/25/2020 at 10:26 PM, other one said:

that is true but we are not told that he did.......   he also could have just put them into hibernation and slept through the whole thing

Its possibly true God put those animal into hibernation.


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On 6/26/2020 at 5:46 PM, Neighbor said:

Hi Noah was not locked down isolated from family nor from animals.  Noah had a command from God all we have is a theory from Dr. Faucie that  is killing world commerce at this time. we will soon be out of most all things needed for  civilized living. We will become foragers and gatherers living  in small tribes, suffering gretly from all manner of disease.

The herd theory is the better route to go, where some of us will live and some will die, but we will not bring down the entire world population to small tribal wanderings in a dark age.

Thats true.

But its much more difficult for Noah's lockdown compared to ours, isnt it ?


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3 hours ago, R. Hartono said:

Thats true.

But its much more difficult for Noah's lockdown compared to ours, isnt it ?

Ask me when this "voyage" is over, if we are both still around.  We may still only be in pre-ark sealing up time  for this particular ride, and not yet  on the ride itself. It may be as they say, "You ain't seen noth'n yet."  No mask is going to help out when the starvation begins to take fuller effect. Most of us couldn't forage for ourselves for a full week and not begin to get very hungry. 

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53 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

Ask me when this "voyage" is over, if we are both still around.  We may still only be in pre-ark sealing up time  for this particular ride, and not yet  on the ride itself. It may be as they say, "You ain't seen noth'n yet."  No mask is going to help out when the starvation begins to take fuller effect. Most of us couldn't forage for ourselves for a full week and not begin to get very hungry. 

Do you think its necessary to prepper ? Those with food don't hv to go to the street with hungry stomach looking for any chance to find food ?

When hungry people gather on the street it will not be good things to come.

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44 minutes ago, R. Hartono said:

Do you think its necessary to prepper ? Those with food don't hv to go to the street with hungry stomach looking for any chance to find food ?

When hungry people gather on the street it will not be good things to come.

Fair question. I prepare. I do not go prepper for the purpose of outlasting others in trouble. I will share as best I can. Doesn't matter to me if I am the first to starve or the last. Perhaps it is better to be first having shared than be last having hoarded for self alone. I think I'd rather face my Lord sooner having shared  than to  hoard and be last in that same line. 

Will 911 be my first call in time of trouble, not likely. I am somewhat self sufficient for that kind of event. When on the mountain  I am not reaching any help within the so called golden hour during a serious need anyway. Yet if it is allowed me I'd rather be  on the mountain overall than here at the city as I am presently for a few days. Life keeps getting in the way  of a full blown full time mountain experience, and that is good I suppose, ( There is still duty to others that I need tend) and that keeps me humbled and quite aware of my Lord's will over my own.

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