trinity Preach The Trinity

[David1701]

2 hours ago, Debp said:

God does the work in us by His Spirit, the Holy Spirit.   We are regenerated upon faith in Christ....that is, spiritually reborn (born again).

 That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.  John 3:6.

 

Actually, we have faith in Christ upon being born again, not vice versa.

1 John 5:1 (ESV) Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ has been born of God, and everyone who loves the Father loves whoever has been born of him.

Everyone who believes (present tense), has been born of God (perfect tense -happened in the past, with the result continuing in the present).  This means that being born again happens FIRST and faith immediately flows from that.

The above agrees with John 3.

John 3:3-7 (ESV)

3 Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.”
4 Nicodemus said to him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother's womb and be born?”
5 Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.
6  That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 
7  Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’

We MUST be born again, in order to perceive and enter the kingdom of God, by faith in Jesus Christ.

[Prycejosh1987]

We all know that the trinity exists throughout the entire bible. Jesus is hard to spot in the old testament but he exists for example, it is said that he was in the fire with Daniels 3 friends. People say that the king that put them in the furnace said the fourth man looks like the son of the gods. I believe the spirit aligned his vision to think that. 

[Fidei Defensor]

3 hours ago, Prycejosh1987 said:

We all know that the trinity exists throughout the entire bible. Jesus is hard to spot in the old testament but he exists for example, it is said that he was in the fire with Daniels 3 friends. People say that the king that put them in the furnace said the fourth man looks like the son of the gods. I believe the spirit aligned his vision to think that. 

Jesus is also the one who thew Satan out of heaven: 

“Moreover, the word of the Lord came to me: “Son of Man, raise a lamentation over the king of Tyre, and say to him, Thus says the Lord God:

“You were the signet of perfection,
    full of wisdom and (Z)perfect in beauty.
13 You were in Eden, the garden of God;
    every precious stone was your covering,
sardius, topaz, and diamond,
    beryl, onyx, and jasper,
sapphire,[b] (AD)emerald, and carbuncle;
    and crafted in gold were your settings
    and your engravings.
On the day that you were created
    they were prepared.
14 You were an anointed guardian cherub. (Cherubim that Coverth) 
    I placed you; you were on the holy mountain of God;
    in the midst of the stones of fire you walked.
15 You were blameless in your ways
    from the day you were created,
    till unrighteousness was found in you.
16 In the abundance of your trade (Satan invented trade, hence “youcannot serve both God and Mammon (god of moeny.” -Matthew 6:24)
    you were filled with violence (war in heaven, Revelation 12:6-11) in your midst, and you sinned;
so I cast you as a profane thing from  the mountain of God,
    and I destroyed you, O guardian cherub,
    from the midst of the stones of fire.
17 (Your heart was proud (Isaiah 14:11-14) because of your beauty;
    you corrupted your wisdom for the sake of your splendor.
I cast you to the ground;
    I exposed you before kings,
    to feast their eyes on you.
18 By the multitude of your iniquities,
    in the unrighteousness of your trade
    you profaned your sanctuaries;
so I brought fire out from your midst;
    it consumed you,
and I turned you to ashes on the earth
    in the sight of all who saw you.
19 All who know you among the peoples
    are appalled at you;
you have come to a dreadful end
    and shall be no more forever. (Revelation 20:10)” (Ezekiel 28:11-19). 

Jesus is the Son of Man: 

”Moreover, the word of the Lord came to me: “Son of Man.” (Ezekiel 28:11-12). 

“And Jesus said, “I am, and you will see the Son of Man seated at the right hand of Power, and coming with the clouds of heaven.” (Mark 14:62) 

“But that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins”—he said to the man who was paralyzed—“I say to you, rise, pick up your bed and go home.” (Luke 5:24) 

“And he said, "The Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders, the chief priests and the teachers of the law, and he must be killed and on the third day be raised to life.” (Luke 9:22) 

[Daniel Marsh]

23 hours ago, Debp said:

There is a whole section of videos.

https://www.worthychristianforums.com/forum/144-videos/

Thank You,

daniel

[Daniel Marsh]

On 7/13/2020 at 4:57 PM, theElect777 said:

This portion here "the FATHER and the SON, sharing the same SPIRIT-POWER (Mindpower) by which they create without contradiction or disagreement.. That is my  understanding."

 

Do you by chance follow a Denomination called 4-square or are you a Messianic Jew?   Both of these belief systems seem to utilize this very idealism.   I am just asking.  If you wish to not answer that is also fine by me.   When I see the concept you have mentioned I know it typically relates to certain belief systems 

Where does the Bible say that  SPIRIT-POWER  is Mind power?   When you say Spirit Power, do you mean the Holy Spirit?

Please, clarifly friend. 

[Daniel Marsh]

On 7/14/2020 at 12:54 AM, Betha said:

No Sir, I don't belong to nor follow any human Organization...the Bible is my source of information....what I say above seems obvious to me....I could be wrong so I won't argue the Point.

what point?

[Guest theElect777]

16 minutes ago, Daniel Marsh said:

Where does the Bible say that  SPIRIT-POWER  is Mind power?   When you say Spirit Power, do you mean the Holy Spirit?

Please, clarifly friend. 

That portion was not from me to begin with.   That was from the person I quoted.   I used what she said.   You could address her and ask her what it means.   I used that portion to see if she was 4-Square or Messianic Jew.

Edited July 15, 2020 by theElect777

[Daniel Marsh]

On 7/14/2020 at 6:30 PM, Debp said:

Actually it is the Spirit and mind.   If we leave out the Spirit working in our hearts to help transform us, and focus only on the mind...that would be Christian Science.

"

Creator. Spirit; Mind; intelligence; the animating21divine Principle of all that is real and good; self-existentLife, Truth, and Love; that which is perfect and eternal;the opposite of matter and evil, which have no Prin‐24ciple; God, who made all that was made and could notcreate an atom or an element the opposite of Himself.

Dan (Jacob’s son).  Animal magnetism; so-called mor‐27tal mind controlling mortal mind; error, working outthe designs of error; one belief preying upon another.

...

Mind. The only I, or Us; the only Spirit, Soul, divine
Principle, substance, Life, Truth, Love; the one God;
18not that which is in man, but the divine Principle, or God,
of whom man is the full and perfect expression; Deity,
which outlines but is not outlined.

...

 

Spirit. Divine substance; Mind; divine Principle;
all that is good; God; that only which is perfect, ever‐
21lasting, omnipresent, omnipotent, infinite.

Spirits. Mortal beliefs; corporeality; evil minds;
supposed intelligences, or gods; the opposites of God;
24errors; hallucinations. (See page 466.)"

 

Good Luck on making sense of those definitions of Christian Science.

Edited July 17, 2020 by Alive
link to Christian Science

[Guest theElect777]

4 minutes ago, theElect777 said:

That portion was not from me to begin with.   That was from the person I quoted.   I used what she said.   You could address her and ask her what it means.   I used that portion to see if she was 4-Square or Messianic Jew.

 

It came from this post.

On 7/13/2020 at 10:15 AM, Betha said:

Not sure why you are mentioning all the other possibilities when there was no ref made to any in connection with that particular verse ?

There is only One Holy Spirit who IS God and not another besides Him. Joh 4v24. That is why there are only 2 Beings in the Godhead.....

the FATHER and the SON, sharing the same SPIRIT-POWER (Mindpower) by which they create without contradiction or disagreement.. That is my  understanding.

[Daniel Marsh]

7 minutes ago, theElect777 said:

That portion was not from me to begin with.   That was from the person I quoted.   I used what she said.   You could address her and ask her what it means.   I used that portion to see if she was 4-Square or Messianic Jew.

ahh, who is she?